Edit: Anyway, why are people rating Too Human so low? The demo felt very solid. Giant Bomb says the story is good but the gameplay is weak. Gamespot says the gameplay is good, the story is weak. Ign claims the game has ps2 graphics. etc.- wtf? This feels like a hate train more than anything"I actually checked out the download, and I thought the game had the worst combat I've seen in years. I killed enemies by swiveling the joystick while in the other room, and when I came back, I had full health. It failed right there.
NeoGAF Bans Denis Dyack
"This is especially shitty after NeoGAF recently went out of their way to create and manage a hate-free pre-release thread. They banned several people for trolling it, and wouldn't let people talk shit about the game until after it was released, and then they could give their opinions--however negative they may be--without sounding like assholes. Dyack himself was posting there a bit recently, and then to go and call NeoGAF the worst gaming forum, and to do that when there are forums like gametrailers and gamefaqs. There were a bunch of supporters on the site as well, and the mods were going out of their way to see that there was a place for those supporters to be free from the hate, and then he turns around and does this.I agree, this is pretty ridiculous in general tbh.
I say fuck Dyack, and his shitty three star game. Here's another intellectual quote that is quite fitting: "It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt." If Dyack still has a job after Too Human fails, I think he'd do well to remember that."
"didn't this game make 10 years to make?>_> It took 4 years to develop.
ha ha ha ha ha"
"I wonder if Dyack will come here next..."God I hope so, we can rip on him!
He is such a douche, he's like the Anti-Peter.
"REforever101 said:yea, but I remember hearing that he supposedly spent the last 10 years dreaming about the game"didn't this game make 10 years to make?>_> It took 4 years to develop."
ha ha ha ha ha"
just quoting what I've been told
either way, 4 years is a long time to make a crap game
"Arkthemaniac said:I'd say Anti-Meier, but the principle is the same."I wonder if Dyack will come here next..."God I hope so, we can rip on him!
He is such a douche, he's like the Anti-Peter."
"We really need a celebrity poster on GB. That would be awesome."I would pass out if someone like Will Wright joined. I know for a fact that I'm not alone in that.
Well, at least we have Jesus. He's a celebrity, kinda.
"Wow, Dyack apparently isn't the only major figure at neogaf, David Jaffe weighed in on the whole situation earlier. How come gaf gets all the love? I don't recall anyone big ever mingling at gamespot."It's cool BoG, GB has me. We're doing pretty good for ourselves.
"Wow, Dyack apparently isn't the only major figure at neogaf, David Jaffe weighed in on the whole situation earlier. How come gaf gets all the love? I don't recall anyone big ever mingling at gamespot."Content. On GAF, at least the discussion is somewhat intelligent and the threads that deserve replies/discussion. Here, people go crazy over boobs.
Not that there's a problem with boobs, I just think developers would rather discuss video games where video games are the main topic.
Plus, GAF is a largely recognized forum. It doesn't really have any kind of alliance.
Wow, Dyack apparently isn't the only major figure at neogaf, David Jaffe weighed in on the whole situation earlier.Care to post a link? I'd like to read what he said. And yeah, NeoGAF is somewhat well-known as a game developer hangout, so that's yet another reason why it was really lame for Dyack to put down the GAF after they were good enough to try and keep a handle on all the hate.
I wanna buy Too Human more now to support Dyack. He's the bomb. I still dont know if my wallet can take a 60 dollar hit right now though. :(
I enjoyed the demo.
"Wow, Dyack apparently isn't the only major figure at neogaf, David Jaffe weighed in on the whole situation earlier. How come gaf gets all the love? I don't recall anyone big ever mingling at gamespot."Duh... GAF has a ton of devs, some from IG as well. Where have you been? lol
I'm guessing you don't know the history of NeoGAF huh.
took quite some digging. Scroll down, user name davidjaffe
"These forums are vastly superior. We discuss such pertinent topics as hamburgers and the proper classification of cheesecake."LOL!
"Wow, Dyack apparently isn't the only major figure at neogaf, David Jaffe weighed in on the whole situation earlier. How come gaf gets all the love? I don't recall anyone big ever mingling at gamespot."I believe I saw fourzerotwo around here recently. And he's way less of a douche than Dyack.
"Wow, Dyack apparently isn't the only major figure at neogaf, David Jaffe weighed in on the whole situation earlier. How come gaf gets all the love? I don't recall anyone big ever mingling at gamespot."Those aren't the only devs that post there. One of the lead producers of the PS3/360 Turok is a mod. There are a couple of Blizzard employees (mostly in HR/non-dev roles), smaller indie devs such as Krome Studios and Sidhe interactive are represented. Also most of the major site (IGN, 1up, Gamespot) editors have accounts there. It's probably due to the number of users and posts and due to the fact that 1up.com's news wouldn't exist without the forum.
Is the Turok producer Bishoptl? He always seemed to show a soft spot for TH o.0
There are tons of major and minor developers and editors all over NeoGAF. You should have seen James Mielke responding to criticism of Giancarlo's review. Man that guy is like a high school freshman XD
"Jayge said:Although nobody at Silicon Knights has publicly "cried" or said anything at all about the review scores. I don't imagine they care much either. They all seem to enjoy playing their game, and they have at least two publishing projects besides Too Human (which Microsoft has already declared they will support to the end). They should be quite happy."blue74 said:"wow is that guy still bitchin about too humans low review scores"Again, your intelligent rhetoric continues to astound me."
Lols this reminds me of when factor 5 was cryin about Lair"
Hmmm from what i've heard of all this denis dyack stuff is that neogaf is one of the worst places on the net, where the owner him self actively pushes people to hate games and be all around fanboys...ect
Denis only fought againest this and was banned for reasons that nearly 99% of the users at neogaf should be banned for, he complained that owners, moderators...ect didn't follow the very rules they had set forth, so i think he had a point. But i knew this long ago i didn't join neogaf when it was first made casue of the caustic atomosphere there which infact is worse then gamestops system wars forums.
P.S: we need a game developer here, I pick the guy that made the crane game (old gamespot thread if you know what i mean)
The latest review scores show Too Human picking up
its score from the middle review scores it got yesterday:
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/928546.asp
I don't read NeoGAF but it seems if mods want to trash
game developers that post on their board, that it's not a
worthy for my attention. The mods should ban themselves.
The only people that might find it funny are cows.
Mods had the right to ban him. He called their forum the worst forum, and bashed them even after they were right. If I am not mistaken, GAF has never, in history, banned a dev. That just goes to show how foolish Dyack really was being.
Hell he just went on record saying "Too Human is the most innovative game on the 360"... v_v'
You guys just don't get it. Dyack intentionally set out to make Too Human an overwhelmingly average experience. It was designed to evoke an emotional response in the player of "Yeah...this is ok, I guess." He has achieved that goal, and it not being recognized for the artistic genius that went into it. The frustration is understandable.
the community on NeoGAF takes itself way to seriously, and in the case of the post from Evillore yesterday it just came off as immature, and pathetic. Many of the user on NeoGAF should stop considering themselves this super influential cabal of forum members. Granted they have people who work in the game industry as registered users and folks from 1up bit at the end of the day its just another forum, and immaturity via anonymity is as rampant there as on any other forum.
"the community on NeoGAF takes itself way to seriously, and in the case of the post from Evillore yesterday it just came off as immature, and pathetic. Many of the user on NeoGAF should stop considering themselves this super influential cabal of forum members. Granted they have people who work in the game industry as registered users and folks from 1up bit at the end of the day its just another forum, and immaturity via anonymity is as rampant there as on any other forum.Moreso, since most of them sniff their own farts like they're hallucinogenic glue."
"Warchief said:heh aye, I stopped going to the forums after yesterdays temper tantrum."the community on NeoGAF takes itself way to seriously, and in the case of the post from Evillore yesterday it just came off as immature, and pathetic. Many of the user on NeoGAF should stop considering themselves this super influential cabal of forum members. Granted they have people who work in the game industry as registered users and folks from 1up bit at the end of the day its just another forum, and immaturity via anonymity is as rampant there as on any other forum.Moreso, since most of them sniff their own farts like they're hallucinogenic glue.""
"Mods had the right to ban him. He called their forum the worst forum, and bashed them even after they were right. If I am not mistaken, GAF has never, in history, banned a dev. That just goes to show how foolish Dyack really was being.I guess he has high hopes for it. I can't wait to get my copy now that it's riddled with controversy. <_<
Hell he just went on record saying "Too Human is the most innovative game on the 360"... v_v'"
"Here it isSon of a bitch, they moved the thread somewhere else so people who don't have an account there can't read it! : (
took quite some digging. Scroll down, user name davidjaffe"
Any way you can tell me what he said? Perhaps just a quick copy/paste from your history? Sorry.
"Hmmm from what i've heard of all this denis dyack stuff is that neogaf is one of the worst places on the net, where the owner him self actively pushes people to hate games and be all around fanboys...ect
Denis only fought againest this and was banned for reasons that nearly 99% of the users at neogaf should be banned for, he complained that owners, moderators...ect didn't follow the very rules they had set forth, so i think he had a point. But i knew this long ago i didn't join neogaf when it was first made casue of the caustic atomosphere there which infact is worse then gamestops system wars forums.
P.S: we need a game developer here, I pick the guy that made the crane game (old gamespot thread if you know what i mean)"
Yeah, the Crane Operator guy needs to join GB. Is he even still at GS?.
"BoG said:yeah i think the post was moved this morning, perhaps because they realized how foolish it makes one of the mods look. then again would any site or forum want to have a temper tantrum accessible to the public?"Here it isSon of a bitch, they moved the thread somewhere else so people who don't have an account there can't read it! : (
took quite some digging. Scroll down, user name davidjaffe"
Any way you can tell me what he said? Perhaps just a quick copy/paste from your history? Sorry."
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