#1 Posted by AMyggen (2818 posts) -

The stream is cutting to black after a few seconds with a message for me to buy a Premium membership on Justin to continue watching, because they've "reached the maximum number of streams in your country". I live in Norway. Any way around this, or am I fucked?

#2 Posted by Korwin (2844 posts) -

@amyggen said:

The stream is cutting to black after a few seconds with a message for me to buy a Premium membership on Justin to continue watching, because they've "reached the maximum number of streams in your country". I live in Norway. Any way around this, or am I fucked?

Le Boned.

#3 Posted by Giefcookie (598 posts) -

Wait for the archive, same thing happening for me in Finland. Hopefully there is a better solution for the next premium stream.

#4 Edited by AMyggen (2818 posts) -

Fuck me then. They should've just kept it open for everyone on Twitch if Justin.tv is paywalled for people outside the US. Would have been cool for non-subs too. Ah well, I'm going to bed then...

#5 Posted by CptBedlam (4449 posts) -

Same here and for some other fellow Germans. :(

Why is justin.tv so bad? And why did twitch do these changes with the password? Why make things shittier for everyone?

#6 Posted by RonGalaxy (3098 posts) -

Justin is racist

#7 Edited by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

@amyggen: Same thing here, man. Justin really hates non-English speaking countries.

If I see that komplett commercial one more time...

#8 Edited by lanerobertlane (139 posts) -

Watching fine in UK with 60mb connection. Seems shitty for those that can't. If they can't find a good replacement for premium streams than that's most of the subscription content gone. I know I wouldn't pay for just the archive, I like the interactivity of it. Shame :-(

#9 Edited by AMyggen (2818 posts) -

Justin has always done this shit IIRC, so no big surprise. I'm just surprised that GB even tried to do a stream on Justin, and wanted to know if there was away around the bullshit. Feels a bit like DRM by GB, hitting the people who pay, but I guess it's a honest mistake and hope they find a solution soon.

As for why Twitch stopped with password protected streams, I guess few outside of GB used it in a legitimate way (some People probably streamed some nasty shit with a password too).

#10 Posted by AMyggen (2818 posts) -

@nekroskop: Haha, yeah...I'm never visiting Komplett again :)

And I'm sure they'll find a solution. GS uses their own player for streams IIRC, but the flip side of that is the bandwidth cost. There has to be alternatives to Twitch's password protected streams.

#11 Edited by Elektrobear (22 posts) -

I'd honestly rather the stream be open to everyone than suffer justin.tv. Hell it would solve the mobile app problem as well. Just keep the archives premium and make the live streams a special treat for all to witness?

#12 Edited by AMyggen (2818 posts) -

As a temp solution, that would probably work. But I think they'd lose subscribers if they stopped with premium streams, so they need to find a solution. Until then, open it up I say. Pretty fucked by twitch to just close that service with no real warning.

#13 Posted by Darji (5294 posts) -

@amyggen said:

As a temp solution, that would probably work. But I think they'd lose subscribers if they stopped with premium streams, so they need to find a solution. Until then, open it up I say. Pretty fucked by twitch to just close that service with no real warning.

Yeah twitch is totally fucking them up right now. It is just disgusting to see this. No other streaming site removed a privacy feature like that. Not even the ones who had trouble especially with sexual content. Intest of removing it give admins the right to view these and to close them if they strip etc. I reall like twitch but this is just pathetic...

#14 Posted by Allprox (540 posts) -

Same here, Ireland. That's absolutely fucked! I never knew they had that restriction and they want 10 bucks? F off.

#15 Edited by Korwin (2844 posts) -

There's probably plenty of other streaming avenues they could look into out there. Does Vimeo or DailyMotion provide password protected streaming yet?

Hmm looks like Dailymotion do have a business plan available - https://www.dmcloud.net/pricing

#16 Posted by AMyggen (2818 posts) -

Yeah, it seems a bit strange. Why not at least give the option to trusted user like GB? How much of a hassle can it be for Twitch to let at least selected users put a password on their streams? My guess is: None. Was this a reaction to the PS4 play room clusterfuck, or did it happen before?

#17 Posted by CptBedlam (4449 posts) -

I got this, guys....

In spirit of porn discussion on the bombcast from last week, I say: fuck it, the guys should just use some amateur porn streaming site for streaming GB content.

#18 Edited by Darji (5294 posts) -

@amyggen said:

Yeah, it seems a bit strange. Why not at least give the option to trusted user like GB? How much of a hassle can it be for Twitch to let at least selected users put a password on their streams? My guess is: None. Was this a reaction to the PS4 play room clusterfuck, or did it happen before?

It happened because someone decided to sue the password function to strip on playroom yes. Just remove everything playroom related and done. But no one password protected strip and they remove a great feature. WTF......

#19 Edited by jimmyfenix (3852 posts) -

You guys should contact @rorie This seems like a serious problem.

#20 Posted by BIGJEFFREY (4917 posts) -

That sucks. Fuck that nonsense.

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#21 Edited by Korwin (2844 posts) -

You guys should contact @rorie This seems like a serious problem.

He knows what's up

#22 Posted by Eviternal (193 posts) -

I stopped watching due to frequent full-screen ads and stuttering (with no bandwidth options available on the stream). I'll wait for the archive and no doubt enjoy it, but in the meantime this sucks. I hope GB find another solution.

#23 Posted by maero945 (5 posts) -

there are other options to pursue i'm sure, before we get some the porn cam site stage.

livestream.com offers private events.

is a private google hangout possible?

i think nico nico also offers paywall restricted channels.

ustream has password protected channels.

owned3d? oh wait, owned3d doesn't exists anymore.

#24 Edited by Darji (5294 posts) -

@jimmyfenix said:

You guys should contact @rorie This seems like a serious problem.

They know about it already and it is the last time they are just using justin TV. Right now they need a new streaming service which can take a while probably. But yeah lets just go to some prono stream site there is one with really great qualy. Just use the stream from there and use the chat from twitch^^

@maero945 Nico Nico has a similar restriction like justin TV so that is no option. The problem is to find a really good streaming site and right now I guess U stream if they offer this is the only real alternative if you don't want to go the porno route.

#25 Edited by AMyggen (2818 posts) -

@darji: Huh, if that's actually the case...that's just such a big overreaction. I get that it probably wasn't a big sacrifice for Twitch to make since not many bigger user used the function, but to completely remove it even for users like GB is so fucking stupid. I hope GB can get either a deal in place with Twitch (the site fucking uses the GB database for their game pictures etc., have some gratitude!:P), or at least find a good alternative.

#26 Posted by Korwin (2844 posts) -

@maero945 said:

there are other options to pursue i'm sure, before we get some the porn cam site stage.

livestream.com offers private events.

is a private google hangout possible?

i think nico nico also offers paywall restricted channels.

ustream has password protected channels.

owned3d? oh wait, owned3d doesn't exists anymore.

I believe they also have a requirement for things like server side archives and what not so whatever service they run with would have to supply that function.

#27 Posted by Black_Cat (16 posts) -

This really sucks, I was hoping to see it live.

But hey guys make sure this goes up on the archive as soon as its over so -at least- we get to see it soonish.

BTW fuck Justin.tv

#28 Edited by Darji (5294 posts) -

@amyggen said:

@darji: Huh, if that's actually the case...that's just such a big overreaction. I get that it probably wasn't a big sacrifice for Twitch to make since not many bigger user used the function, but to completely remove it even for users like GB is so fucking stupid. I hope GB can get either get a deal in place with Twitch (the site fucking uses the GB database for their game pictures etc., have some gratitude!:P), or at least find a good alternative.

They removed this feature exactly after that strip sow happened. So it isss 100pro because of this. And yeah it was a total overreaction. I get that there is a problem with this stuff but how was this ever a problem on a site like twitch? I bet on justin tv they are doing it constantly. Same with other casual chatting sites.

#29 Posted by Rorie (2857 posts) -

Sorry about that, guys. We weren't aware of the limitations that Justin had on foreign users (a bit tough to test in the office). We'll look into something else for next time.

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#30 Posted by endoworks (284 posts) -

Is the stream already over or did they just stop?

#31 Posted by TruthTellah (8754 posts) -

What we need to do is petition and pressure Twitch to bring back some form of private channels. This change is ridiculous, and it serves little purpose but to screw over legitimate users like Giant Bomb. They need to fix this.

#32 Posted by MB (12251 posts) -

Justin is racist

Countries aren't races.

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#33 Posted by Darji (5294 posts) -

What we need to do is petition and pressure Twitch to bring back some form of private channels. This change is ridiculous, and it serves little purpose but to screw over legitimate users like Giant Bomb. They need to fix this.

I am totally with you. Or at least give sites like Giantbomb this feature back @rorie did you guys try to talk tro twitch about this matter already?

#34 Posted by villainy (556 posts) -

Sure would be a shame if Twitch lost their precious game database eh? Ehhhh?

#35 Posted by Rorie (2857 posts) -

@darji said:

@truthtellah said:

What we need to do is petition and pressure Twitch to bring back some form of private channels. This change is ridiculous, and it serves little purpose but to screw over legitimate users like Giant Bomb. They need to fix this.

I am totally with you. Or at least give sites like Giantbomb this feature back @rorie did you guys try to talk tro twitch about this matter already?

We've talked with them about it, but they're unlikely to bring the feature back. It's no huge deal, we'll figure something out.

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#36 Posted by Flacracker (1652 posts) -

@rorie: Doesn't Gamespot have its own steaming player thing? Or does that just feed through twitch?

#37 Posted by Elektrobear (22 posts) -

Why not just partner-gate the password feature? Twitch are being real dumb about this.

#38 Posted by AMyggen (2818 posts) -

@flacracker: GS does have it's own streaming player, but it's probably much cheaper for GB to use a third party player. It's not cheap to keep your own streaming service going in terms of servers etc.

#39 Posted by iAmJohn (6117 posts) -

Twitch is incompetent.

#40 Posted by Rorie (2857 posts) -
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