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#1 Edited by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -

According to my buddy who knows some guy, MGS4 will be announced for the 360  as Kojima accepts his lifetime achievement award tonight.  The ceremony starts at 6:30 pacific.
And no, I'm actually being serious here, I know I've made some.... more essentric topics in the past but I'm not joking here.

Really, this isn't a joke.  Mark your watches, 6:30 tonight (the conference so by 7:30 at most)

Edit: Yep, find another source, Geoff Keighly: http://twitter.com/geoffkeighley
and g4tv http://g4tv.com/special_announcement/award_ceremony

#2 Posted by turbomonkey138 (4956 posts) -

lol :D

#3 Posted by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -

I'lltry to search it up and see if any other sources make mention of this award thingy

#4 Posted by eclipsesis (1242 posts) -

I think your friend has drank to much then told you a lie,

#5 Edited by AgentJ (8778 posts) -

Sigh... Well I wont say anything until the press conference is over, but if it ends without a mention of MGS4, I will come down on you like a spider monkey.


Though there was an MGS4 logo put up accidently during Iwatas speech, so i would actually not be shocked.
#6 Posted by turbomonkey138 (4956 posts) -

part of me hopes this is true

#7 Posted by DuderBattalion (269 posts) -
SmugDarkLoser said:
"According to my buddy who knows some guy .........

According to your buddy who knows some guy .. !! Wow .. your source of information is irrefutable !!!!! 
#8 Posted by prinny_god (327 posts) -

well According to my buddy who knows some guy your a dumbass

#9 Posted by BoG (5192 posts) -

Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray.

#10 Posted by Edgar (182 posts) -

I'm going to go ahead and believe you on this one. I don't why, but I will.

#11 Posted by Cloneslayer (1644 posts) -

Hey, if MGS could make it on the Gamecube, then MGS4 can come to the 360

#12 Posted by turbomonkey138 (4956 posts) -

yes so will i . Gotta love blind belief

#13 Posted by BoG (5192 posts) -
Cloneslayer said:
"Hey, if MGS could make it on the Gamecube, then MGS4 can come to the 360"
... that's a non sequitur right there. What?
#14 Posted by BiggerBomb (6944 posts) -

I straight up do not care! =/

MGS ain't my thing.

#15 Posted by OmegaPirate (5522 posts) -

Im kinda hoping this isn't true, im all for all plats getting all games, but it will be a sad day if microsofts announcement is -hey we r teh monehbags and r buying teh companies!!! AGAIN!!

#16 Posted by AgentJ (8778 posts) -
BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
That or the game comes on 6 discs. or Blu Ray isn't nearly as big as people have told us. (that option wouldn't suprise me)
#17 Posted by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -
BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
For the record bog, since either way there is an awards conference tonight, even if you think I don't have sufficient evidcence at least this could stay up for a few hours, even if it's just a thread about the award ceremony and GDC in general.

I swear I saw some more non text based evidence as well.   And then there's the (supposedly) MGS4 logo during Iwata's speech (that is the same room I believe-not so sure though, just judging off of what they seemed to have suggested)
#18 Posted by Edgar (182 posts) -
BoG said:
"Cloneslayer said:
"Hey, if MGS could make it on the Gamecube, then MGS4 can come to the 360"
... that's a non sequitur right there. What?
"
He must be sarcastic. I mean, he just has to be. (Please?)
#19 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (4779 posts) -
BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
actually on last checked MGs4 only came in at like 33gigs and with 7.1 uncompressed pcm tracks...ect
#20 Posted by AgentJ (8778 posts) -
OmegaPirate said:
"Im kinda hoping this isn't true, im all for all plats getting all games, but it will be a sad day if microsofts announcement is -hey we r teh monehbags and r buying teh companies!!! AGAIN!!"
They wouldn't be buying any companies... just giving 360 owners a chance to play a great game without spending fivehundrednintynineUSdollars
#21 Posted by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -
AgentJ said:
"BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
That or the game comes on 6 discs. or Blu Ray isn't nearly as big as people have told us. (that option wouldn't suprise me)
"
Bluray is freaking huge.  50 GBs.  As bluray players improve, they said it should be able to hold 200 GBs (think DVD5s vs. DVD9s or the not as prevalent DVD10s)

As for MGS4, if it does come to the 360, I'm going to say it will indeed be a multi disk game, 2 disks if anything.  In reality one for each act is just as fine (as it'd be equivelant to installs)
#22 Posted by BiggerBomb (6944 posts) -
AgentJ said:
"BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
or Blu Ray isn't nearly as big as people have told us. (that option wouldn't suprise me)
"

I'd believe that.
#23 Edited by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -
AgentJ said:
"OmegaPirate said:
"Im kinda hoping this isn't true, im all for all plats getting all games, but it will be a sad day if microsofts announcement is -hey we r teh monehbags and r buying teh companies!!! AGAIN!!"
They wouldn't be buying any companies... just giving 360 owners a chance to play a great game without spending fivehundrednintynineUSdollars
"
I lovewhen games go multiplatform, more gamers get to play a game = win for everyone.
I do not like how Tecmo/ Team Ninja does things though.  If you want to give the additional content to the people who originally supported the game as well, that's fine (even for a fee), but putting out another better version later is BS.

means I'll have to rebuy NG2 when it becomes damn cheap. 
Honestly now, why can't they release dlc so I just have to pay $10 tops to get this content?  Reminds me of the Soul Caliber versions, but worse even.

At least Ps3 owners get to play the game as well though, that's some good news
#24 Posted by MattyFTM (14432 posts) -
AgentJ said:
"BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
That or the game comes on 6 discs. or Blu Ray isn't nearly as big as people have told us. (that option wouldn't suprise me)
"
Or they've came up with some magic new compression technology.
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#25 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (4779 posts) -
MattyFTM said:
"AgentJ said:
"BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
That or the game comes on 6 discs. or Blu Ray isn't nearly as big as people have told us. (that option wouldn't suprise me)
"
Or they've came up with some magic new compression technology."
actually from what i hear most ps3 games dont use nearly the level of compression that 360 games do or atleast thats what im lead to believe. since the mgs 4 game comes in at only 32-33 gigs and that is compressed.

#26 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -

If it does, then, wow, did I waste £350. Sidebar: Of which I have recouped £300, but still.

#27 Posted by JJOR64 (19065 posts) -

Now we play the waiting game.

#28 Posted by Bigdonkey1 (42 posts) -

people don't rule out that it may very well come on 2 HD DVDs.


if it comes out at all


i personally don't think it'll be a straigh port, there is always a beefed up version and that one will likely be multi platform, but we won't see it this soon after MGS4. it's not even been a year yet.

#29 Posted by Jeffsekai (7052 posts) -

I will happly take MGS4 and all 5 of its disks to play it on a 360

#30 Posted by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -

You mean like MGS4: SuperSubsistence?
I guess, pretty likely I guess.  Probably be MGS4, perhaps some extra constumes/ small resolved issues as well as all the dlc packs.

Hopefully this comes as a dlc download for ps3 owners

#31 Posted by JJOR64 (19065 posts) -
Bigdonkey1 said:
"people don't rule out that it may very well come on 2 HD DVDs.if it comes out at alli personally don't think it'll be a straigh port, there is always a beefed up version and that one will likely be multi platform, but we won't see it this soon after MGS4. it's not even been a year yet."
Never really thought of that.  MGS4: Old Subsistence (wild guess) or something of that nature.
#32 Posted by OmegaPirate (5522 posts) -
AgentJ said:
"OmegaPirate said:
"Im kinda hoping this isn't true, im all for all plats getting all games, but it will be a sad day if microsofts announcement is -hey we r teh monehbags and r buying teh companies!!! AGAIN!!"
They wouldn't be buying any companies... just giving 360 owners a chance to play a great game without spending fivehundrednintynineUSdollars
"
Of course, and im all for that, nut last years megaton announcement was - Hahaha ff13 is no longer ps3 exclusive, and the internet exploded wit 360 fanboys smugging it everywhere and ps3 fanboys raing everywhere - nad really it was a pretty saggy time - it would be uncool for 2 years running the big announcement to be - we took an exclusive away 
#33 Posted by LiveOrDie1212 (926 posts) -

i hope it doesn't happen...i dont think i want it to happen.

#34 Posted by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -
OmegaPirate said:
"AgentJ said:
"OmegaPirate said:
"Im kinda hoping this isn't true, im all for all plats getting all games, but it will be a sad day if microsofts announcement is -hey we r teh monehbags and r buying teh companies!!! AGAIN!!"
They wouldn't be buying any companies... just giving 360 owners a chance to play a great game without spending fivehundrednintynineUSdollars
"
Of course, and im all for that, nut last years megaton announcement was - Hahaha ff13 is no longer ps3 exclusive, and the internet exploded wit 360 fanboys smugging it everywhere and ps3 fanboys raing everywhere - nad really it was a pretty saggy time - it would be uncool for 2 years running the big announcement to be - we took an exclusive away 
"
It's GDC though.
And there is still the actual MS conference.  There has to be at least 2 rare games announced either there or E3 (or one each I suppose)
#35 Posted by Absurd (2934 posts) -
prinny_god said:
"well According to my buddy who knows some guy your a dumbass
"

It's funny because you spelled "You're" wrong.
#36 Edited by BoG (5192 posts) -
SmugDarkLoser said:
"BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
For the record bog, since either way there is an awards conference tonight, even if you think I don't have sufficient evidcence at least this could stay up for a few hours, even if it's just a thread about the award ceremony and GDC in general.I swear I saw some more non text based evidence as well.   And then there's the (supposedly) MGS4 logo during Iwata's speech (that is the same room I believe-not so sure though, just judging off of what they seemed to have suggested)"
For the record smug, I don't just think you lack sufficient evidence, I know you don't. A friend of a friend and an ambiguous "watch tonight!" from Jeff Keighley do not lead to any hard conclusions.
I'm not denying the probability, just stating a fact.
#37 Edited by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -
BoG said:
"SmugDarkLoser said:
"BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
For the record bog, since either way there is an awards conference tonight, even if you think I don't have sufficient evidcence at least this could stay up for a few hours, even if it's just a thread about the award ceremony and GDC in general.I swear I saw some more non text based evidence as well.   And then there's the (supposedly) MGS4 logo during Iwata's speech (that is the same room I believe-not so sure though, just judging off of what they seemed to have suggested)"
For the record smug, I don't just think you lack sufficient evidence, I know you don't. A friend of a friend and an ambiguous "watch tonight!" from Jeff Keighley do not lead to any hard conclusions.
I'm not denying the probability, just stating a fact.
"
I know that too, I do lack it.
Suffiecient evidence here would be "Kojima to announce MGS4 360 tonight".  In reality, not even a "MGS announcement tonight" would be sufficient.

What I really mean is that I'm not pulling this out of my ass.  There are things pointing to it.
Worst case scenario I'm wrong and we can all bash Smug, right?
#38 Posted by BiggerBomb (6944 posts) -
SmugDarkLoser said:
"BoG said:
"SmugDarkLoser said:
"BoG said:
"Keighley didn't confirm anything. I guess we'll see, though. If it is, then someone lied to us about this game almost filling up a Blu Ray."
For the record bog, since either way there is an awards conference tonight, even if you think I don't have sufficient evidcence at least this could stay up for a few hours, even if it's just a thread about the award ceremony and GDC in general.I swear I saw some more non text based evidence as well.   And then there's the (supposedly) MGS4 logo during Iwata's speech (that is the same room I believe-not so sure though, just judging off of what they seemed to have suggested)"
For the record smug, I don't just think you lack sufficient evidence, I know you don't. A friend of a friend and an ambiguous "watch tonight!" from Jeff Keighley do not lead to any hard conclusions.
I'm not denying the probability, just stating a fact.
"
I know that too, I do lack it.Suffiecient evidence here would be "Kojima to announce MGS4 360 tonight".  In reality, not even a "MGS announcement tonight" would be sufficient.What I really mean is that I'm not pulling this out of my ass.  There are things pointing to it.Worst case scenario I'm wrong and we can all bash Smug, right?"

For us, yes. The worst case scenario for you is that you're right, and we all bash Smug anyway.
#39 Posted by Karmum (11519 posts) -

Doubt it, but I wouldn't be too shocked if it happened, but at this point, coming/not coming, I just want the debate to finally end.

#40 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (4779 posts) -

I really don't think it ever has been "can" it be done but more will it be done?

#41 Posted by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -
Karmum said:
"Doubt it, but I wouldn't be too shocked if it happened, but at this point, coming/not coming, I just want the debate to finally end."
Well personally for me, if it's not announced to be going during this GDC, it won't ever.
I was never one who talked about this much, but there always has been a strong rumor that it'd come, especially recently with GDC upon us
#42 Posted by Karmum (11519 posts) -

But honestly -- if this was to be the announcement, would they really want it to be spilled before the announcement? Seems suspicious, considering the magnitude of the FF13 announcement, this would be even bigger.

#43 Edited by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -
Karmum said:
"But honestly -- if this was to be the announcement, would they really want it to be spilled before the announcement? Seems suspicious, considering the magnitude of the FF13 announcement, this would be even bigger."
I'm sorry, but no it wouldn't.
Final Fantasy is such a bigger franchise than MGS.  MGS just has more of a fanboy culture surrounding it.

But you know what, every conference since E3 they have been stealing Sony exclusives, why would they quit now?  First FF13, then Tekken 6.  Today MGS4.  Tomorrow?  Nah.... they wouldn't do two megatons within a day.  Perhaps another big exclusive, but nothing huge.
In reality though, this wouldn't be spilled.  It's just more viewable as of the general situation.
#44 Posted by OmegaPirate (5522 posts) -
SmugDarkLoser said:
"Karmum said:
"But honestly -- if this was to be the announcement, would they really want it to be spilled before the announcement? Seems suspicious, considering the magnitude of the FF13 announcement, this would be even bigger."
I'm sorry, but no it wouldn't.Final Fantasy is such a bigger franchise than MGS.  MGS just has more of a fanboy culture surrounding it. But you know what, every conference since E3 they have been stealing Sony exclusives, why would they quit now?  First FF13, then Tekken 6.  Today MGS4.  Tomorrow?  Nah.... they wouldn't do two megatons within a day.  Perhaps another big exclusive, but nothing huge. "
And thats what im afraid of- i dunno why it just doesnt feel like a decent way of doing business :(
#45 Edited by SmugDarkLoser (4619 posts) -
OmegaPirate said:
"SmugDarkLoser said:
"Karmum said:
"But honestly -- if this was to be the announcement, would they really want it to be spilled before the announcement? Seems suspicious, considering the magnitude of the FF13 announcement, this would be even bigger."
I'm sorry, but no it wouldn't.Final Fantasy is such a bigger franchise than MGS.  MGS just has more of a fanboy culture surrounding it. But you know what, every conference since E3 they have been stealing Sony exclusives, why would they quit now?  First FF13, then Tekken 6.  Today MGS4.  Tomorrow?  Nah.... they wouldn't do two megatons within a day.  Perhaps another big exclusive, but nothing huge. "
And thats what im afraid of- i dunno why it just doesnt feel like a decent way of doing business :(
"

It's not like they don't have their own games as well.  If they relied solely on that, yea, but tomorrow we'll probably be seeing original stuff from them as well.
I keep on saying it, maybe not tomorrow but by E3, Rare will announce either PD2 or KI3. 

It's probably more of a result of there not being a reason for the guys to be exclusives as well. 
#46 Posted by Karmum (11519 posts) -
SmugDarkLoser said:
"Karmum said:
"But honestly -- if this was to be the announcement, would they really want it to be spilled before the announcement? Seems suspicious, considering the magnitude of the FF13 announcement, this would be even bigger."
I'm sorry, but no it wouldn't.Final Fantasy is such a bigger franchise than MGS.  MGS just has more of a fanboy culture surrounding it. But you know what, every conference since E3 they have been stealing Sony exclusives, why would they quit now?  First FF13, then Tekken 6.  Today MGS4.  Tomorrow?  Nah.... they wouldn't do two megatons within a day.  Perhaps another big exclusive, but nothing huge. In reality though, this wouldn't be spilled.  It's just more viewable as of the general situation. "
Regardless of popularity, why would they want this potentially-shocking news to be released, prior to the announcement? There was no sign of leakage during E3 of last year. Again, I really doubt it is MGS-related. Hoping more for ZO3. Yes, please.
#47 Posted by OmegaPirate (5522 posts) -
SmugDarkLoser said:
"OmegaPirate said:
"SmugDarkLoser said:
"Karmum said:
"But honestly -- if this was to be the announcement, would they really want it to be spilled before the announcement? Seems suspicious, considering the magnitude of the FF13 announcement, this would be even bigger."
I'm sorry, but no it wouldn't.Final Fantasy is such a bigger franchise than MGS.  MGS just has more of a fanboy culture surrounding it. But you know what, every conference since E3 they have been stealing Sony exclusives, why would they quit now?  First FF13, then Tekken 6.  Today MGS4.  Tomorrow?  Nah.... they wouldn't do two megatons within a day.  Perhaps another big exclusive, but nothing huge. "
And thats what im afraid of- i dunno why it just doesnt feel like a decent way of doing business :(
"
It's not like they don't have their own games as well.  If they relied solely on that, yea, but tomorrow we'll probably be seeing original stuff from them as well. I keep on saying it, maybe not tomorrow but by E3, Rare will announce either PD2 or KI3.  "
Man -that would rock so damn much :D i would seriously cream if they were announced
#48 Edited by Guardian (318 posts) -

The announcement will likely be modern warfare 2 related. Why would Kojima announce MGS4 tonight when he has a keynote tomorrow?


PS. If you're wrong smug, perhaps you can truly leave?
#49 Posted by BoG (5192 posts) -
SmugDarkLoser said:
"Karmum said:
"But honestly -- if this was to be the announcement, would they really want it to be spilled before the announcement? Seems suspicious, considering the magnitude of the FF13 announcement, this would be even bigger."
I'm sorry, but no it wouldn't.Final Fantasy is such a bigger franchise than MGS.  MGS just has more of a fanboy culture surrounding it. 
Smug's right, it wouldn't be bigger, as the FF series is bigger. However, FF has the largest "fanboy culture" of any game series I know of.
#50 Posted by Karmum (11519 posts) -

I checked the twitter page, and found this only 2-3 hours before the one about checking out the ceremony. The times seem to match up:

"Big surprise is multi-platform. And it goes down in about 6 or 7 hours."

...still hoping for Zone of the Enders 3. Besides, isn't Kojima's keynote on Friday?