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#101 Posted by me3639 (1759 posts) -

Cant lie, i chocked up a little seeing Ryan. Your list closely resembles mine, i only have 1 AAA title and the rest are either small and unknown games. A great year for gaming and a brighter future ahead. I am sort of disappointing that you, along with everywhere i look is neglecting Sly Cooper. Easily the most underrated title this year that is getting absolutely no love. Maybe its becasue it was the first time i ever played a Sly title, but it wouldnt matter its still a great title and one of the best this year.

#102 Edited by SatelliteOfLove (1369 posts) -

FOR RYAN!

Excellent list, almost as good as Zoe's.

#103 Posted by solidlife (878 posts) -

where is zelda! Good list looking forward to the Goty podcast.

#104 Posted by BBQBram (2236 posts) -

That picture is beautiful. It always seemed like Ryan was stoked to have Patrick around. We miss ya Virtua Davis!

#105 Posted by Monkeyto (30 posts) -

In 2013, Patrick branched out and tried some really different stuff. To see such a wonderful mix of games in that top 10 is something I enjoyed reading. Delightfully surprised to see that number 1!

#106 Posted by laserguy (444 posts) -

good list i have not played much of these.

#107 Posted by EyeQueue (44 posts) -

I miss that big man...

Merry Christmas, Patrick! Great picks. Was surprised to see Papers, Please! at the top, but it's inspired me to revisit it. I don't think I ever made it more than 12 days or so.

#108 Posted by TheManWithNoPlan (5501 posts) -

Nice list Scoops.

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#109 Posted by berserker66666 (5 posts) -

That photo of Ryan and Patrick. Priceless.

#110 Posted by YOUNGLINK (548 posts) -

Ryan :(

#111 Posted by scottygrayskull (446 posts) -

The whole time I played through Gone Home (given what I heard I made sure to go in as blind as possible) I really expected some sort of killer or supernatural thing to jump out at me. The fact that I thought that, but it didn't happen is a real testament how well crafted the game was. It took me to a different time when I was young and those thoughts would pop up in my head if I was in that situation.

I'm starting to cave on Brothers. Not that I thought it'd be bad, just that I decided it was one of those games that I just didn't have time to try. That quick look didn't help either. It's pretty cheap on 360 today... Hmm...

#112 Posted by Brazzle (213 posts) -

Loving the Papers Please appreciation, coming into GOTY talks I was very worried that nobody in the office had ended up finishing it because they never seemed to talk about it beyond the demo version.

Great photo, hope there is some kind of Ryan GOTY something or other, he's missed.

#113 Edited by ultrapeanut (385 posts) -

Aw, that pic. <3

#114 Edited by Calmgamer (136 posts) -

That picture is fantastic! Found myself staring at it for a good minute.

Also - that's a nice list Patrick. Keep up the good work next year!

#115 Posted by falling_fast (2223 posts) -

awesome list, patrick. thanks.

#116 Edited by Dooley (185 posts) -

Daaaamn. No Metro? That's dissapointing.

#117 Posted by SefaRed (122 posts) -

That picture broke my heart

#118 Posted by andrewf87462 (556 posts) -

Wow, nice picture of Ryan.

#119 Posted by TheHT (11258 posts) -

Papers, Please huh? Interesting. Everytime I see that thing on sale I ask myself if I'm in the mood for stress.

Noooooooooope.

#120 Posted by 07ron (48 posts) -

Nice list, Patrick.

Thanks for all the great work you put in this year. It means a lot to those who read/watch it :)

RIP Ryan.

#121 Posted by JoeyRavn (4973 posts) -

Man. That picture. Struck a chord so badly... Great list, though. Most of these games are on my backlog, and I'm waiting for Year Walk to release on PC, but I definitely agree that these games are some of the best this year.

I haven't played TLoU, though. I probably never will.

#122 Edited by Tennmuerti (8100 posts) -

Play Xcom:EU on something like ironman/classic without realoading all the time then you will care about your dudes too. I still have a thing for my impossible/ironman squad, enough to immortalize them with some sweet screenshots :)

And really reloading the missions from start is pretty much save abusing, except your saves are just way further apart. :P

#123 Posted by GaspoweR (3028 posts) -

This top ten list almost mirrors mine as well. God damn Papers, Please is incredible.

#124 Posted by Accolade (326 posts) -

Best picture of the year at the top.

#125 Posted by Gamer_152 (14078 posts) -

Great list. It's a nice mix of some well-polished AAA stuff and imaginative indie titles. Oh, and that picture is wonderful.

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#126 Posted by HerbieBug (4212 posts) -

Ooh! I dig this list quite a bit. Thumbs way up for Fire Emblem and Paper, Pls at top stop!

And oh my god that picture is the best. :'D

#127 Posted by theuselessgod (318 posts) -

Wow, that picture really got to me and I didn't think it would. Great list.

#128 Posted by LackingSaint (1814 posts) -

This is a collection of games I love, in an order that weirds me out. Not to say i'm trying to invalidate your list in any way, but it's very unique compared to how i'd order things (Putting Fire Emblem in the bottom five, Papers Please over the Last of Us, etc).

#130 Posted by automatontribe (198 posts) -

Year walk representing!

#131 Posted by frozensquozen (18 posts) -

Way to overshadow your list, Patrick. Miss you, Ryan.

#132 Posted by JosephKnows (76 posts) -

"When the final story beats play out, as it becomes clear that everything was leading up to this moment, an otherwise fairly traditional story became elevated by gaming's defining trait: interactivity."

And that's precisely why I agree with Vinny so much on why game stories can be just as good as the best movies and books. It's not just what the rote storytelling is saying, it's how it's said and what you bring to the table by how you interact with it. Valid arguments are made about BioShock or The Last of Us having some gameplay dissonance, and I do think that takes away from the story. But in the case of Papers, Please or Brothers, the gameplay has so much to do with the actual narrative itself that it transcends cutscenes or scripted sequences and becomes something much more. I can only see this becoming more normal as the medium continues to grow up.

I'm most thrilled this year by the wide variety of games that people seem to be picking. There's not a consensus, and I like that. It's a year that had something for everyone.

While I agree with what Patrick said, I don't necessarily find that much of a gameplay dissonance with TLOU and the narrative that plays out in the cutscenes. Joel's easy to reconcile considering the life he has lived prior to the game starting (after the prologue of course), and the fact that it's constantly reinforced in the cutscenes by how much of a cold-blooded person he can be.

Although some might see Ellie's turn to murdering dudes when you get to control her as troublesome, I don't have a hard time rationalizing it because of all the shit she went through before she had to go out on her own as well as the way she was treated by David. How she lashes out at the very end of Winter is completely justifiable when it dawns on her the sickening plans David had for her. Of course, the whole cannibalism thing didn't help either!

Her breakdown at that end proved that she herself was very much deeply unsettled by everything she had to do to survive. The way the rest of Spring rolls out echoes a profound change in her after that experience.

There's even an argument to be made that having you control Joel at the very last part where you have to get Ellie out of the operating room is an inspired moment marrying narrative and interactivity. You are forced to play out Joel's sociopathic selfishness by violently rescuing Ellie and damning the world as a result. That part could have been a cutscene because you don't really have a choice in it, but Naughty Dog intentionally made it so you had to pull the trigger.

#133 Edited by ToTheNines (721 posts) -

Merry christmas Patrick <3 Nice list

#134 Edited by Artso (75 posts) -

@mormonwarrior: The impression I got was that no one on the podcast thinks that games can't have good stories, it's just that most games don't even try. I'm sure that the best stories in games could rival movies or books, I just haven't seen it done. I agree that Papers, Please and Brothers are good examples of storytelling done well in games, especially Brothers.

On the subject of Vinny... I think it's ridiculous to say that games can have a good story and then point to Bioshock and Gone Home as examples. Gone Home does atmosphere so well and I really enjoyed exploring the house, but if you extract the story it's basically a cliché teenage drama. The reason people praise it so much is because it's unique in games. Gone Home doesn't have great gameplay either. Bioshock is even worse.

Biggest surprise of the year: Patrick turns out to be the dude that I agree with the most. Did not see that coming!

#135 Edited by Yodasdarkside (276 posts) -

The problem with papers please for me is that it's just a game, none of your choices have actual repercussions because they're not real people so why should i care?

In the words of Ice T: "Yo dude there's no nudity in video games, they're not real people"

Well, someone has to be a cold hollow shell of human I guess.

#137 Posted by Thoseposers (785 posts) -

@thoseposers said:

The problem with papers please for me is that it's just a game, none of your choices have actual repercussions because they're not real people so why should i care?

In the words of Ice T: "Yo dude there's no nudity in video games, they're not real people"

Well, someone has to be a cold hollow shell of human I guess.

Why should i care about my actions or characters in the game in such a way?

#138 Posted by pweidman (2334 posts) -

Patrick, you were the only one willing to prop up Metro:LL...and you didn't. :((

Good assortment of choices nonetheless, and the pic of you and Ryan at the top is priceless. TY for that.

#139 Edited by Mr_Skeleton (5144 posts) -

Man that picture makes me both incredibly happy and sad :/

#140 Posted by fox01313 (5072 posts) -

Great list Patrick & such a lovely photo of you with Ryan Davis.

#141 Posted by masterfaculty (152 posts) -

Thanks for that picture of you and Ryan, Patrick, that's really sweet. Been a noticeable lack of lack of Ryan mentions lately (to be fair, I've been reading oldest to newest, so i could be off base here). I'm sure everyone's still coming to grips with it and are dealing with it the best they can. But nothing has defined 2013 for me more than that terrible day I read the news. I appreciate all you guys and all that you do. And I've been role-playing Papers, Please, one day at a time. Fantastic experience.

#142 Posted by Godlyawesomeguy (6398 posts) -

Fuck, that picture. Fuuuuuuuck.

#143 Posted by Fobwashed (2074 posts) -
#144 Edited by PillClinton (3291 posts) -

Good to see The Swapper gettin' some love. Fantastic game.

#145 Posted by Diachron (91 posts) -

Good list.

Thanks for the Ryan pic. I really miss him.

#146 Posted by UnsolvedParadox (1863 posts) -

That lead picture...man. I really miss Ryan.