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#1 Posted by dvaeg (189 posts) -

I'm about to wrap up the end of Mass Effect 2, and I need a new game to play at work.   I tend to play on my lunch break on my laptop, but I do not have Internet access while at work, so it can't be a networked game (or else WoW or LOTRO would be my default picks).    I own the following PC RPG or RPG-like games installed and ready to go.   In some cases I will need to replay the game, since I lost a bunch of saves last year: 
 
Oblivion 
Neverwinter Nights 2 + both expansion packs 
Dragon Age: Origins  - replay an origin
Starcraft 2 
 The Witcher: Enhanced Edition - replay 2/3 of the game
Bully 
Borderlands 
Freedom Force  
Gothic 2  
Baldur's Gate 2 
Planescape: Torment

I like varying environments, quest hub based gaming and a good story.    I'm not much for loot collecting (my MMO play-style is exploration and story) or just point and click gameplay (which is why Torchlight is not on this list).   I play for 1 hour or so at a time, max, so I need good management of my quests via a quest log or journal).   I loved ME2, so that's why Borderlands is on this list, hybrid games tickle my fancy. 
  
Any input would be appreciated.

#2 Posted by yinstarrunner (1199 posts) -

I say go for Oblivion with some mods.  It should easily hold you until New Vegas comes out, then you should be playing that.

#3 Posted by LordCmdrStryker (346 posts) -

If you haven'y played Starcraft 2 yet, play that
 
If you already have, I'd say flip a coin between Oblivion and Freedom Force.

#4 Posted by Jimbo7676 (716 posts) -

Oblivion with mods to fix the dumb leveling system would be good. I'd go with BG 2 just because I love that game.

#5 Posted by Potter9156 (941 posts) -
#6 Edited by TheSeductiveMoose (3617 posts) -

Planescape: Torment or The Witcher.

#7 Posted by HitmanAgent47 (8576 posts) -

Morrowind, kotor

#8 Edited by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -
@Potter9156 said:

" Arcanum  
Fallout 1 
Fallout 2 
Morrowind  All have journals and save anywhere. "

You just saved me a post. But I made it anyway. I recommend these games in this order. Arcanum and each Fallout is only $6 at GoodOldGames.com
 
Also get STALKER Call of Pripyat. It's much more of an RPG than Borderlands. If you must play games in order then Shadow of Chernobyl is good too, but not as good as CoP. Clear Sky can be skipped.
#9 Posted by Inf225 (503 posts) -

Oblivion, but go to steam forums, there is a sticky about an excellent mod setup. Follow that, and enjoy.

#10 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

If you don't like loot collecting, dear god stay away from The Witcher. Sometimes I wonder if people recommend shit they never played because they "hear good things". Honestly, you read the post then say "oh you hate loot, play the Witcher". Seriously kids, read then respond. 
Neverwinter Nights 2 is the best game Obsidian ever did, and I'd say its better than their work with Black Isle too (as interesting as the Planescape universe is, the gameplay itself? Not super great). I'd go with that.

#11 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11737 posts) -

BG2 or Planescape.

#12 Posted by SlasherMan (1725 posts) -
@ryanwho: Loot? In The Witcher? The same game that only has one piece of armor, and every other weapon besides the two swords is useless? :\
 Whatever other types of loot the characters drop you're not really required to pick up unless you need it for a quest, or want to sell for money. Are you sure you played the same game I did?
#13 Posted by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -

KOTOR or oblivion  
 
i heard good things about the whichter

#14 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5827 posts) -

I heard Risen is pretty good on the PC, don't really know since I haven't played it myself. 
 
Personally though, I'd recommend Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines. Apart from the combat, it's a great game. The atmosphere, characters, abilities, it's all perfect. It has a pretty good sense of humor, and some parts of the game are pretty shocking as well.

#15 Posted by BunkerBuster (1042 posts) -

 Farmvile is a PC RPG, you should go play that.  300 million people can't be wrong, right?
 
But if I had to choose from your list I would go with ES4 Oblivion or Borderlands.

#16 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -
@FancySoapsMan said:
" I heard Risen is pretty good on the PC, don't really know since I haven't played it myself.   Personally though, I'd recommend Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines. Apart from the combat, it's a great game. The atmosphere, characters, abilities, it's all perfect. It has a pretty good sense of humor, and some parts of the game are pretty shocking as well. "
I played the Risen demo on my PC. It wasn't bad at all. If I had time, I would probably get it. Actually, I had forgotten about it until you mentioned it.
#17 Posted by MartinDN (127 posts) -

Definitly the kotor series, but make sure you get mods - as there pretty much vital, adding removed story content and weapons/robes etc.

#18 Posted by Khann (2850 posts) -
@yinstarrunner said:
" I say go for Oblivion with some mods.  It should easily hold you until New Vegas comes out, then you should be playing that. "
@LordCmdrStryker said:
" I'd say flip a coin between Oblivion and Freedom Force. "
@Jimbo7676 said:
" Oblivion with mods to fix the dumb leveling system would be good.
 
@MrKlorox said:
"Also get STALKER Call of Pripyat. It's much more of an RPG than Borderlands. If you must play games in order then Shadow of Chernobyl is good too, but not as good as CoP. Clear Sky can be skipped. "
@Inf225 said:
" Oblivion, but go to steam forums, there is a sticky about an excellent mod setup. Follow that, and enjoy. "
  
@slightconfuse said:
" KOTOR or oblivion  "
@BunkerBuster said:
"ES4 Oblivion or Borderlands. "
u reed gud 
 
 
Anyway, The Witcher has one of the worst quest logs in any game I can remember playing. The combat is also extremely boring and repetitive. You're also constantly (well, I was) picking up shit from all over the place. That said, it has fantastic story/world/lore/characters/atmosphere/etc. Some of the best of any game I've played in fact. It's also mature, and by that I don't mean tits, pussy and GORE. I mean the game doesn't treat you like a fucking child and the interactions with other characters are very realistic (relatively speaking of course). 
#19 Posted by dvaeg (189 posts) -

Lots of Oblivion love, obviously. I tried it on the 360 when it first came out and I think I created a build that couldn't advance past the first gate. I was one-shotted by everything it seemed.

I'm surprised nobody has said Dragon Age though. the origin I played before I lost my save was a lot of fun. I'll probably decide by mid week.

#20 Posted by FunExplosions (5407 posts) -

No matter who you are, even if you hated Oblivion - like me - you should check out a mod that was JUST released for it. It's called Nehrim. It's a total conversion mod for Oblivion. And it's free. Make sure you get the English version, though, unless you know German. 
 
Besides adding a shit load of awesome story and gameplay, you can now set your resolution manually, pre-load larger parts of the game, tweak the water effects, as well as a few other cool things. 
 
Oh... I see some other people have already mentioned this...

#21 Posted by Zaalbar (6 posts) -

If you haven't played Starcraft 2 yet I would definitely suggest that first. But if you have then I would say either DA:O or KOTOR even though that's not on your list. If you don't mind playing a bit of an old game KOTOR is definitely one of the best RPG's as far as story is concerned.

#22 Posted by dvaeg (189 posts) -

I went through KOTOR and KOTOR 2 earlier this year. Part two was a bear to push through.

Thanks for the advice do far everyone. To expand, I think I want something with good set pieces and locations. Atmospheric dungeons or towns or countryside. I know Sarcraft 2 seems to have good setpieces and setups. Does that help narrow it?

#23 Posted by RadixNegative2 (520 posts) -

Definitely Oblivion

#24 Posted by MartinDN (127 posts) -
@FunExplosions said:
" No matter who you are, even if you hated Oblivion - like me - you should check out a mod that was JUST released for it. It's called Nehrim. It's a total conversion mod for Oblivion. And it's free. Make sure you get the English version, though, unless you know German.  Besides adding a shit load of awesome story and gameplay, you can now set your resolution manually, pre-load larger parts of the game, tweak the water effects, as well as a few other cool things.  Oh... I see some other people have already mentioned this... "
WOW. that mod looks fucking amazing, im totally taking out my copy of oblivion for the first time in 2 years...RIGHT NOW.
#25 Posted by FunExplosions (5407 posts) -
@MartinDN said:
" @FunExplosions said:
" No matter who you are, even if you hated Oblivion - like me - you should check out a mod that was JUST released for it. It's called Nehrim. It's a total conversion mod for Oblivion. And it's free. Make sure you get the English version, though, unless you know German.  Besides adding a shit load of awesome story and gameplay, you can now set your resolution manually, pre-load larger parts of the game, tweak the water effects, as well as a few other cool things.  Oh... I see some other people have already mentioned this... "
WOW. that mod looks fucking amazing, im totally taking out my copy of oblivion for the first time in 2 years...RIGHT NOW. "
Lol. I didn't mean to sound so hyped about it. It's a good mod, is all.
#26 Posted by valrog (3671 posts) -
@dvaeg:  Gothic II, but only if you finished Gothic I. Or you can go with Risen, it's a spiritual successor after all.
#27 Posted by Fjordson (2448 posts) -

The Witcher. Definitely my favourite out of that list. After that Planescape and then Freedom Force.

#28 Edited by MartinDN (127 posts) -
@FunExplosions said:

" @MartinDN said:

" @FunExplosions said:
" No matter who you are, even if you hated Oblivion - like me - you should check out a mod that was JUST released for it. It's called Nehrim. It's a total conversion mod for Oblivion. And it's free. Make sure you get the English version, though, unless you know German.  Besides adding a shit load of awesome story and gameplay, you can now set your resolution manually, pre-load larger parts of the game, tweak the water effects, as well as a few other cool things.  Oh... I see some other people have already mentioned this... "
WOW. that mod looks fucking amazing, im totally taking out my copy of oblivion for the first time in 2 years...RIGHT NOW. "
Lol. I didn't mean to sound so hyped about it. It's a good mod, is all. "
Did you think i was sarcastic ? Im serious lol Oblivion is one of my fav games of all time and i poured a few hundred hours into the game, so im glad you told everyone about this it does look amazing the amount of stuff thats changed, i think the only problem ill have is the german dub, does that affect it alot ?
#29 Posted by Scrawnto (2446 posts) -
@MrKlorox said:
" @Potter9156 said:

" Arcanum  
Fallout 1 
Fallout 2 
Morrowind  All have journals and save anywhere. "

You just saved me a post. But I made it anyway. I recommend these games in this order. Arcanum and each Fallout is only $6 at GoodOldGames.com
 
Also get STALKER Call of Pripyat. It's much more of an RPG than Borderlands. If you must play games in order then Shadow of Chernobyl is good too, but not as good as CoP. Clear Sky can be skipped. "
This is pretty decent advice.  I loved both Fallout 1 and 2. However, I can't vouch for Morrowind. I haven't played it. And I was never able to get into Arcanum. I just can't get past the janky art and battle system. The setting is cool though, and you can find it cheap, so you might still see if it works for you. 
 
As far as RPG/Shooters go, STALKER CoP and Borderlands are both excellent, but if you aren't one for loot collecting and prefer exploration, go with CoP for certain. Tons of exploration to do. Oblivion is also great for exploration. 
 
@Khann said:
 Anyway, The Witcher has one of the worst quest logs in any game I can remember playing. The combat is also extremely boring and repetitive. You're also constantly (well, I was) picking up shit from all over the place. That said, it has fantastic story/world/lore/characters/atmosphere/etc. Some of the best of any game I've played in fact. It's also mature, and by that I don't mean tits, pussy and GORE. I mean the game doesn't treat you like a fucking child and the interactions with other characters are very realistic (relatively speaking of course).  "  
 But it also means tits. You even get a little card for each woman you sleep with! Collect them all!
I don't really mean to knock The Witcher, but the way the game treats the witcher's relationships with women is a little odd.
#30 Posted by vidiot (2737 posts) -
#31 Posted by Daveyo520 (6754 posts) -

Out of those, Baulder's Gate 2 or Never Winter Nights. I would also Suggest Dragon Age, Kotor, or any of the Fallout games.

#32 Posted by Raven10 (1789 posts) -
@ryanwho said:
" If you don't like loot collecting, dear god stay away from The Witcher. Sometimes I wonder if people recommend shit they never played because they "hear good things". Honestly, you read the post then say "oh you hate loot, play the Witcher". Seriously kids, read then respond. Neverwinter Nights 2 is the best game Obsidian ever did, and I'd say its better than their work with Black Isle too (as interesting as the Planescape universe is, the gameplay itself? Not super great). I'd go with that. "
?? There are what six swords and three pieces of armor in the game? If you don't like loot collecting this is the game to get. Unless you love collecting herbs...
#33 Posted by procyon (6 posts) -

Definitely KotOR.
 
And Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. Except you need to get a bunch of patches for that.
 
Worth it, though.

#34 Posted by FunExplosions (5407 posts) -
@MartinDN said:
" @FunExplosions said:

" @MartinDN said:

" @FunExplosions said:
" No matter who you are, even if you hated Oblivion - like me - you should check out a mod that was JUST released for it. It's called Nehrim. It's a total conversion mod for Oblivion. And it's free. Make sure you get the English version, though, unless you know German.  Besides adding a shit load of awesome story and gameplay, you can now set your resolution manually, pre-load larger parts of the game, tweak the water effects, as well as a few other cool things.  Oh... I see some other people have already mentioned this... "
WOW. that mod looks fucking amazing, im totally taking out my copy of oblivion for the first time in 2 years...RIGHT NOW. "
Lol. I didn't mean to sound so hyped about it. It's a good mod, is all. "
Did you think i was sarcastic ? Im serious lol Oblivion is one of my fav games of all time and i poured a few hundred hours into the game, so im glad you told everyone about this it does look amazing the amount of stuff thats changed, i think the only problem ill have is the german dub, does that affect it alot ? "
Hah, I generally expect everyone to just be pessimistic in their replies to me :-P
 
The German dubbing isn't a big deal, for me at least. Just like when you watch movies in another language with English subtitles, you find yourself remembering the scenes as if they were spoken in English. It's really not even noticeable after awhile. Plus, it's really a remarkable acting effort on their part. Maybe it's because I don't know the language, but I feel that it's at least on par with the original Oblivion's voice acting.
#35 Posted by Mono_Listo (430 posts) -

I say grab the expansion for Dragon Age and go that route. Just a great RPG experience.

#36 Posted by No0b0rAmA (1490 posts) -
@MrKlorox said:
"@Potter9156 said:

" Arcanum  
Fallout 1 
Fallout 2 
Morrowind  All have journals and save anywhere. "

You just saved me a post. But I made it anyway. I recommend these games in this order. Arcanum and each Fallout is only $6 at GoodOldGames.com
 
Also get STALKER Call of Pripyat. It's much more of an RPG than Borderlands. If you must play games in order then Shadow of Chernobyl is good too, but not as good as CoP. Clear Sky can be skipped. "

Don't listen to this guy! CLEAR SKY IS THE BEST OUT OF ALL OF THEM. Get a total remake mod like the one by ArtistPavel, and enjoy. 
Other than that, I say Gothic 2. But only if your tolerant to bugs and really brutal gameplay. Same goes for above.
#37 Posted by Unchained (1081 posts) -
@Mono_Listo said:
" I say grab the expansion for Dragon Age and go that route. Just a great RPG experience. "
Definitely this. Dragon Age is incredible.  
 
I know it's not on your list, but I'd recommend this: 
  

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
It's a pretty fun and unique rpg, and there is a lot of interesting lore. It's $20 on Steam right now. A little expensive, but grab it next time it goes on sale. 
#38 Posted by Zaalbar (6 posts) -
@dvaeg said:
" I went through KOTOR and KOTOR 2 earlier this year. Part two was a bear to push through. Thanks for the advice do far everyone. To expand, I think I want something with good set pieces and locations. Atmospheric dungeons or towns or countryside. I know Sarcraft 2 seems to have good setpieces and setups. Does that help narrow it? "
Well if you're looking for good atmospheric dungeons and towns I think that you should definitely go with either DA and then pick up the expansion Awakening if you haven't already. If not that then Oblivion.
#39 Posted by S0ndor (2716 posts) -

Risen is pretty cool. The game offers a lot of choices that have a considerable impact on the world, though I didn't feel like playing through a second time after I had finished it. 
 
Also, anything from Bioware is better than most forms of entertainment in the world.

#40 Posted by jackbag (209 posts) -

I still need to play through the enhanced edition of The Witcher. Played the original when it first came out. Don't remember if I actually finished it or not...
 
Since DA has already gotten so much love in this thread, I'll recommend Bully. I fucking love Bully. Such a great game. I'm not sure how the PC version is, though. 

#41 Posted by Xshinobi (385 posts) -

Sounds like you have finished DA:O so I would play The Witcher.

#42 Posted by Pabsi9 (202 posts) -
@yinstarrunner agree I still play oblivion n mods just makes the game even better...Try fallout 3, is a great game with very few flaws...
#43 Posted by Pabsi9 (202 posts) -
@FunExplosions also add the mod that balances the leveling...I hate how enemies fucking level up with u
#44 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@dvaeg: Fallout 3.
#45 Posted by laussica (181 posts) -

borderlands, dragon age or starcraft 2

#46 Posted by crusader8463 (14422 posts) -

The Heroes of Might and Magic games would be good. Turn based gameplay, hero units to rank up, armies to build, castle to defend/upgrade and just enough of a story to keep things interesting.

#47 Posted by dvaeg (189 posts) -

I gotta say that a lot of these look really cool, especially Vampire the Masquerade , Stalker, and Risen.   Believe me though when I say my game backlog is so great that I have sworn off buying anything new for some time.   That's why I'm only going to be working off of my pre-installed list only.   
 
Speaking of which, I realized that I also have Morrowind installed.
 
So many choices, but it looks like a lot of Oblivion love thus far.

#48 Posted by Zenoside (37 posts) -

Some of my favorite PC games:
-Torchlight
- Homeworld + Cataclysm
- Homeworld 2
- Bauldur's Gate 2 (nice old-school fun here)
- Deus Ex
- Jedi Academy

#49 Posted by TwoLines (2811 posts) -
@crusader8463 said:
" The Heroes of Might and Magic games would be good. Turn based gameplay, hero units to rank up, armies to build, castle to defend/upgrade and just enough of a story to keep things interesting. "
HoM&M Number 2 and 3 are the best.
 
Also- the Might and Magic series!
And Wizardry!
Classics!
#50 Posted by Astras (973 posts) -
@TwoLines said:
" @crusader8463 said:
" The Heroes of Might and Magic games would be good. Turn based gameplay, hero units to rank up, armies to build, castle to defend/upgrade and just enough of a story to keep things interesting. "
HoM&M Number 2 and 3 are the best.  Also- the Might and Magic series! And Wizardry! Classics! "
Excellent choices heroes of M+M are excellent, if u go the might and magic direction I would prolly go for M+M 6 first or the heroes turned based games. Cant go wrong with Wizadry either.
Also Temple of Elemental Evil is good, BG2, Icewind dale, Morrowind > Oblivion if u havn't played, Fallout 1 and 2, or get a emulator and play :
 
Chrono trigger snes
Final fantasy 4,6,7 snes
Dragon quest 6 snes
Vandal hearts psx
Sword of Vermillion Genisis
BOF 3 psx