PS3 vs 360 Sales

Figured this would be a nice end of year recap.  
 
To date the 360 has sold over 31 million units (worldwide) while Sony has sold over 27 million (worldwide).  That is with the 360 having the year head start and multiple purchases due to the RROD.  Why is it that everyone talks down at the PS3 when they are only behind by such a  (relatively) small margin only being out 3 years to the 360's 4 years?  I do not understand where "failure" comes in to play here.  If the PS3 is such a failure then what does that say about the 360?  That it only leads hardware sales by 4 million against a "failed" console? 
 
At any rate I do not measure success by hardware sales but by the great games you can play.  Would you say the Wii has won based on hardware sales?  EVERYONE I know who owns a Wii BARELY plays it.  How is that a win?  In my personal opinion I would say the Wii has lost (even though I love Nintendo).  Happy holidays all!

Lets not get into this discussion, but I've never seen anyone (who's rational) use the word "fail" to describe the PS3. Most people tend to lean towards the 360, that's just how it is.

Console success should be based on the quantity of quality games, where both are in comparison to the general market. And yeah, PS3 has been fairly close to Xbox 360 in terms of sales for some time now, yet people still refer to it as if it weren't successful. I guess the stigma from its launch still lingers. 

And I care about who wins and loses...why?

I think it's just relative success. PS2 was a runaway success, and now they've given up their dominant share of the market to Microsoft in just one generation, and Nintendo (whether you want to include them or not, it's errosion of share). In business, market share is everything, since it's a pure metric, and Sony got killed with the PS3 by giving up a ton of share to their competitors. That's why everyone talks about PS3 as if it were a failure.

" I think it's just relative success. PS2 was a runaway success, and now they've given up their dominant share of the market to Microsoft in just one generation, and Nintendo (whether you want to include them or not, it's errosion of share). In business, market share is everything, since it's a pure metric, and Sony got killed with the PS3 by giving up a ton of share to their competitors. That's why everyone talks about PS3 as if it were a failure. "

You also have to take in account software attach rates. Microsoft has really high software attachment rates... If you look at the sales of Uncharted 2 and Halo 3, Halo 3 sold so much more in it's first month then Uncharted 2's around 1 million, this was back when there were less 360's then PS3's now, if that makes any sense. And that's even after Uncharted 2 gained much, much more critical praise.
 
Also, if you look at things like Borderlands and Dragon Age, the 360 is usually the sales leader - last time I checked both, 360 Borderlands had 440,000 while PS3 had 118,000 and 360 Dragon Age had 400,000 while PS3 had around 190,000. The only exception to this I've ever heard of was Batman, but that was because it was the cheaper version for a while. I don't know maybe it still is cheaper. 
 
I think this shows that a lot of PS3 owners are using it only as a media device.

" Figured this would be a nice end of year recap.   To date the 360 has sold over 31 million units (worldwide) while Sony has sold over 27 million (worldwide).  That is with the 360 having the year head start and multiple purchases due to the RROD.  Why is it that everyone talks down at the PS3 when they are only behind by such a  (relatively) small margin only being out 3 years to the 360's 4 years?  I do not understand where "failure" comes in to play here.  If the PS3 is such a failure then what does that say about the 360?  That it only leads hardware sales by 4 million against a "failed" console?  At any rate I do not measure success by hardware sales but by the great games you can play.  Would you say the Wii has won based on hardware sales?  EVERYONE I know who owns a Wii BARELY plays it.  How is that a win?  In my personal opinion I would say the Wii has lost (even though I love Nintendo).  Happy holidays all! "

I only care about the games.

For the past 3 years, these threads pop up. And for the past 3 years I have said...I don't care. It's personal preference, both consoles have their strengths. Yes, you're right, the 360 probably does have more sales because of people purchasing another 360. 
System wars will never end, but that doesn't mean it never gets old!

Sony would still be behind Wii but would be blowing 360 out of the water it they weren't so stupid in charging $600 at launch, throw in $100 dollars more and you can built a screaming gaming rig for that price.  If they had launched with a price point of $400 we wouldn't even be having this conversation as 360 would be in distant third once again. 

Everyone talks down about the PS3 because its just not as good,
Now dont get me wrong im not much of a 360 fanboy or anything, Im just stating my view.
 
The basis for this is because of all the people I know:
 
-The ones who own a 360 have no interest in a PS3, But the ones who own a PS3 always talk about wanting a 360
 
-And the people I know who have both have their PS3 being used for nothing more than dust collectors 90% of the time,
Except for a week or so every so often when a decent game comes out, Then its back to their 360

" And I care about who wins and loses...why? "

Well that was since August was it not? 31 million 360's and 27 million PS3's. But since Modern Warfare 2 came out i'd say sales went up.
 
And the Wii... only got one the other day and hardly played it haha.

Weird I could of sworn that the home page said Giant Bomb but I feel like I'm at Gamespot.........

" @Fbomb said:

" I think it's just relative success. PS2 was a runaway success, and now they've given up their dominant share of the market to Microsoft in just one generation, and Nintendo (whether you want to include them or not, it's errosion of share). In business, market share is everything, since it's a pure metric, and Sony got killed with the PS3 by giving up a ton of share to their competitors. That's why everyone talks about PS3 as if it were a failure. "

 I agree, it wasn't a failure, it just wasn't as successful as past attempts. "

i don't care to much about who wins. i have both ps3 and xbox 360. it is great to have both of them. sony just needs to add more exclusives and it will be great. i can see later in a few years ps3 going up in sales.

Fanboy people criticize ps3 even if they havent played it yet or have not fully played it those
people with both consoles say that xbox has better online even if they havent fully played the ps3 online alot of users havent gone online on ps3 and criticize it.
 the ps3 is the stronger console and will be the best if you fully experience it
and i will say nintendo lose like the GC EPIC  FAIL