Screw the bullshit: Milo and Natal are Amazing

Seriously now.  There are some things debatable and some not.  One thing that is not, is the fact that Milo is amazing.  Yes, it's a prototype, but imagine them making an adventure thriller out of this, it could be amazing.  Anyway, if natal can truly work as they say it does, it will be amazing.  Listen to what sessler says he experienced. 

It still has a long ways to go. By the time Milo is ready to be used in a game the Mass Effect trilogy will be over. But the idea is certainly very impressive. IGNs experience with it showed there is a lot of work to be done. 

I think what impresses you the most is the supposed AI of milo rather than the interface which in this case is pretty much eyetoy really. AI can be used on any system regardless of accessories, with a few slight tweaks here and there for the input. Heck, if it was to have meangful gameplay you'd probably need a controller on the 360 as well, to more accurate look and move around the places you want and do certain actions. And if it didn't have meaningful gameplay then it wouldn't really be all that great after the novelty wore off. Also, Molyneux's ppl developed this and it was shown in video footage that was TOTALLY NOT ACTED so yeah, I wouldn't get too excited if I were you...

The really groundbreaking aspects of the Natal and Milo technology is the voice and face recognition. Those both could do amazing things both for game play applications and just general interface. Just telling my machine to "Play Netflix...Play Terminator..." and then sit back and enjoy? Fantastic. And say I have to get up to go to the bathroom? Natal notices and it pauses the movie for me. Same if it hears the phone ring.

The application of those features of Natal really get me going; I think that Microsoft's over-focus on motion-based tech demos and games really will leave a bad taste in people's mouths who feel like they've been burned once. And the whole "YOU are the controller" thing was goddamn ridiculous.

No, I wouldn't find talking to a game very fun.

"Work like they say it does."

Dude, it's Peter Molyneux. That's all I'm going to say...

Oh yeah, forgot the talking bit... Well, PS3/PC and now the Wii have mics also... Lol. So, yeah, it's just the AI that's impressive if it ever works as intended (guess why it's isolated environment and characters, NO WAY THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK WELL IN AN ADVENTURE) not the interface. I could talk to pikachu on my N64... Just Pikachu wasn't as smart as Milo may be.

Face recognition? I thought people got over local-coop and preffered online co-op nowadays, hence why they hated the Wii's lack of online, now it's awesome that Milo can tell if I'm alone or if my gf is next to me? And again, guess why it's such an isolated area and not really a game... Meh.

Voice recognition is all software based dude, it can be done on anything with sound input if programmed. So, as I say, it's not Natal that impresses you, it's basically the Milo "program" and that could run on pretty much anything in some form. Face recognition I imagine is also software based to an extent as long as the camera has enough resolution to track the differences.

I don't think anyone is saying its bad tech. Its really really good tech. The only thing I see when looking at Milo is its still a tech demo. I don't really see a game in it yet. And thats what I want to do is play a game. 

I still dont see a game in it much. Bar the comical ones such as "you're in the movies", the eye toy games and things, and it could work very well for RTS, but beyond that I can't see how it'd take over a controller for shooting and what not.

Does the PS eye have a mic in it? I forget.... Thats what I like about Natal. Voice and object recognition. 

i really dont think that this is that cool

It's interesting for sure, it would be cool to use in something like Mass Effects dialogue. But to be honest, i'd rather just play a game. I rather a Fable 3 for sure.

I think natal has some serious potential.

im tired of your posts dude, your a massive fanboy, MS could have presented a turd at their conference and you'd be all over these forums trying to support it and defend it. 

I'll believe Milo is impressive when it's released and people can play it.  Until then it's Seaman 3.

Hate watching the news after E3... Clueless journalist fucks reporting on games and technology. Gawd. Yeah this one channel chose Natal cuz it had Spielberg (now you see the importance of celebrities), coupled it with a load of hyperbole and then added some Killzone 2 and Guitar Hero footage on top as if they're related and it's what you can do with it...

Anyone remember Game Face from EA? that thing that scanned yer picture and made a 3d model of yer face in the game? yeah, with a stereoscopic camera, which is what the natal is, that adds the potential of doing better 3d scans as well...that potential interests me. Imagine a world where i can hold an action figure up to a camera, have it scanned in and the next thing ya know I'm a Ninja Turtle, in a SWAT team, in Vegas...fuckin amazing...

But yeah, i see it as being an interesting compliment to a game...i see playing a game like Oblivion, calling out to an NPC and having them react or talking to the NPC, either naturally or speaking a keyword ( like "job" or "Duty") that triggers their lines rather then thumb through the options. I like the idea of casting spells with hand gestures rather then a button switch, i like the idea of manipulating the in game objects with my hands so when i roll a bear corpse down a hill or strip a dead lady of'er clothes and then pose her in a sexual suggestive manner i will be all the more amused...

Alright, seriously though..granted everything i mentioned that natal can do is technically software based (except for the 3d tracking) and can be done with the mic and xbox webcam we already have but i think the real point is, if microsoft impliments Natal's functionality within a firmware update itself, then wouldn't it be more easy for delelopers to implement these things into their games? i think that's more the selling point of Natal (to the "core" gamers or as complimentary to the usual gaming experience) then anything else...to have all that intergrated into the system so that developers can take advantage of that tech without having to invest their own time and research into it.

Milo stuff is like EyeToy but creepier.

Oh my god Smug, slow down. Stop with the ridiculous amount of threads.

Honestly, I'm blown away by this. Natal looks to be one of the most impressive things I've ever seen a video game do. Maybe it's early to jump to that conclusion and the final execution won't work so well. Afterall, look at how immersive the Wii ended up not being. Regardless, until given reason to believe otherwise, I shall remain intrigued and totally interested. It all really seems to be making a big leap into the future and is going beyond just being a video game.

Looks neat to me.

If it doesn't work it's dumb, if it does work it's fucking creepy.

Eh, I think Natal is a bit too ambitious to actually work. I've heard that it uses the 360 camera, but I won't comment on that until I get confirmation.

Looks like it could be cool, but I have reservations over where we're at with speech recognition technology and AI at the moment. If any of you want to try the best technology has to offer now, I recommend having a conversation with Elbot, who won the 2008 Loebner prize for artificial intelligence.

I'm also not sure about the motion capture, but I've gone into depth about that elsewhere in these forums.

The milo thing was scripted as for natall voice and face recognition and mo-cap have been done before kudos to mircosoft for throwing it all in one device. I really don't see it being as groundbreaking and Technologicaly advancing as everyone is going crazy about. If it was I don't think we would be hearing about it for the first time for a device I use when im bored or getting drunk with friends.But thats just what I think which doesn't really matter to anyone but myself anyway. I'm a little bias anyway I don't care for nor understand the whole motion controll craze.

It has a lot of potential, I want to see it though with more games

If it works great, but at this point we have not seen enough of it to make a meaning full judgement. At least with Sony and Nintendo we have live demos and make a judgement.

Realistically this peripheral is NEVER  going to be used in actual games this generation, it's just not financially feasable, as enough people would have to have them to support the title.  When it happens this generation it'll just have it's own shallow games (outside of interface additions). 

Molyneux is a great politician, I'll say that much.

Amazing technology, yes.

Amazing from a gameplay standpoint?  No.  I don't want this in my games.

Why do people assume Milo is a tech demo, I could see this evolving into something that outsells stuff like Nintendogs.  I mean there's a limit to how many people will want to play with this Milo character, but there's definitely value with this as a genre. 

And btw this peripheral will be packaged with every system when it comes out, so enough people having the peripheral shouldn't be a issue. 

I'm not ignorant enough to say "I don't want this in my games" at this point.  My real concern is that the technology is far less versatile than it appears.

This is the birth of Skynet people!! :)