Ha Dmc2 good one.
I really do wonder why they never made a 2 though....
And the one that came to my mind was assassins creed.
And for me currently the biggest one. It made the good concept actually enjoyable instead of boring.
Others might have had more influence but.. i also think their predecessors weren't..'unfun' so to say.
Series with biggest leap in quality from one entry to the next?
" Assassin's Creed -----> Assassin's Creed II was pretty radical in terms of quality. A lot of the repetition was taken out, but on top of that, the storytelling was magnificently handled. "That is what I was going to say. Assassin's Creed II is way better than the original.
Leap backwards I would have to saw Dragon Age 1 to Dragon Age 2, and Dawn of War 1 to Dawn of War 2. In Dragon Age's case they destroyed so much of what made the first one one of my favourites, and with Dawn of War I just hated how they basically made it a Diablo style RPG instead of an RTS.
As for leap forward... I guess what City of Heroes is today compared to what it launched as, but I suppose you could say that about any MMO if given enough time.
I can't really think of any game that I felt improved by leaps and bounds over it's first one. It's always just felt like more of the same to me, in a good way, or they changed all the aspects I loved from the previous one to the point that it has none of the things I liked about the first one any more.
I guess Red Alert to Red Alert 2, but it wasn't so much made better as it was just a different game that I ended up enjoying just as much as the first one.
Mass Effect to Mass Effect 2
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Dragon Age 2 -> Dragon Age: Origins
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I see what you did there
Dead or Alive 2 was a huge step up from the first game. I'd say the biggest is Resident Evil 4. To go from a series of poor games to one of the best games ever is quite the feat.
" Fifa 9 ---> Fifa 10 "I'd say that FIFA 07 to 08 was the biggest leap in quality the series has had in a single year (but that was mostly because FIFA 07 for current-gen consoles was a half-assed attempt to wow people with new ball physics that felt really weird and some of the worst passing and movement I've ever seen in a modern football game.) However, the most important jump probably was FIFA 08 to FIFA 09. That was the moment when FIFA definitively overtook PES as the best footy franchise on the market.
" @KaosAngel said:I don't know if you were following the forums close to Gran Turismo 5's release but when KaosAngel is looking forward to a game he is really looking forward to a game." How the hell no one mention Battlefield 2 -> Battlefield 3 yet? "Probably because no one has played Battlefield 3 "
" @Ygg said:Say wut?? Veronica was one of the worst for me. The only step forward was its 3D environments, which was thankful, but they took out free-movement across staircases, requiring you to now once more press a button to automatically travel up/down them. Made all the worse for when a zombie would start moving up/down thus cutting off your access to the stairs. And what happened to my decapitations?! Dx Instead we just had their head spew out blood, rather than completely pop altogether, when shot by a magnum pistol."Agreed. I thought 4 was a devolution if anything. Maybe the biggest RE jump was 3 to Code Veronica imo. "
@GetEveryone said:4 wasn't the best game in the series and is ultimately why the series has became what it has; a shadow of its former self. Yeah, it was a competent action game that made good use of the perspective, but it wasn't a proper Resident Evil game or worthy of being the next entry in the series. The gunplay in 4 and 5 is laughably bad, enemies just bounce when you hit and kill them. Please, They didn't even bother fixing/improving the animation when you kill standard enemies."
Everything before Resident Evil 4 -> Resident Evil 4. That game did so many things right and stands as one of the modern greats. I don't mean to say it's predecessors were anything less than stellar, but 4 really did produce a paradigm shift in the series' direction/quality. 5 isn't great, though.
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It was a great RE game and all, but it hardly moved the series anywhere.
As for my own pics, with most of the expected suspects are already lined up with DMC2 > DMC3, GTA2 > GTA3 ect. I'll go for Dino Crisis > Dino Crisis 2. Really disliked the original and it felt far too much like a complete mimic of Resident Evil. It was RE with dinosaurs, but without the fun, frankly; thanks to dull combat, and the ratio of combat/exploration and puzzles was far out of synch, with most of my time left scrounging for numbers to input, much more so than any of the RE games, with it also lacking the environmental diversity that the RE games had. Dino Crisis 2 at least then set itself its own identity and made for a more suitable action game, and a fucking brilliant one at that.
" @ViciousReiven said:If backwards equals fun then I agree." The last 3 Elder Scrolls games, and continuing to the next, every game is a huge leap forward. "I'd say Oblivion took more steps backward than it did forward. Not that it's a bad game though. "
" @FreakAche said:I don't know. I like some of the things that Oblivion did, but it's such a small game by comparison. I've pretty much run out of things to do in Oblivion, yet even today I'm constantly able to come back to Morrowind and experience something new." @ViciousReiven said:If backwards equals fun then I agree. "" The last 3 Elder Scrolls games, and continuing to the next, every game is a huge leap forward. "I'd say Oblivion took more steps backward than it did forward. Not that it's a bad game though. "
No way, Shogun has a few welcome mechanics and tweaks, but the AI is still terrible and its still fairly buggy. Hell, the part where you actually fight dudes is exactly like it was in Rome Total war when it comes down to it." Empire: Total War to Total War: Shogun 2. I can't think of any counter arguments for this one. So I guess I win? "
@Synthballs said:
I would agree with this, Mass Effect 1 and 2 played so much differently and were presented in a radically different manner." @SadPatrol
Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2.This. "
" @jorbear said:The actual fighting part in the Total War series has been almost exactly the same from the first Shogun. The AI is still not the best and there are bugs, but compared to the mess that was Empire, I would say its a big improvement." Empire: Total War to Total War: Shogun 2. I can't think of any counter arguments for this one. So I guess I win? "No way, Shogun has a few welcome mechanics and tweaks, but the AI is still terrible and its still fairly buggy. Hell, the part where you actually fight dudes is exactly like it was in Rome Total war when it comes down to it. "
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Assassin's Creed -----> Assassin's Creed II was pretty radical in terms of quality. A lot of the repetition was taken out, but on top of that, the storytelling was magnificently handled.
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I thought I was going to see this. I agree that it has been improved for the better, but I don't see it as a huge leap.
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