Series with biggest leap in quality from one entry to the next?

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#51  Edited By CheapPoison

Ha Dmc2 good one.
I really do wonder why they never made a 2 though....
 
And the one that came to my mind was assassins creed.
And for me currently the biggest one. It made the good concept actually enjoyable instead of boring.
Others might have had more influence but.. i also think their predecessors weren't..'unfun' so to say.

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#52  Edited By kishan6
@KaosAngel: forgetting UT2k3 
 
and probly Red faction2 -> RFG
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#53  Edited By wefwefasdf
@jakob187 said:
" Assassin's Creed -----> Assassin's Creed II was pretty radical in terms of quality.  A lot of the repetition was taken out, but on top of that, the storytelling was magnificently handled. "
That is what I was going to say. Assassin's Creed II is way better than the original.
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#54  Edited By KaosAngel
@mnzy: I never knew about that glitch.  Hah, I bought UT2k3 and quit after a week, the lack of Assault killed it for me, UT99 had more gametypes and better map support.  Oh well, UT2k4 was UT2k3 2.0 so no one complained.
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#55  Edited By Seedofpower

Dawn of war 1 to Dawn of war 2.

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#56  Edited By birchman
@GoofyGoober said:
" GTA 3-GTA4? "
This is what I was thinking, at least graphically.
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#57  Edited By zombie2011

Fifa 9 ---> Fifa 10

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#58  Edited By KaosAngel
@zombie2011 said:
" Fifa 9 ---> Fifa 10 "
I dunno man, Fifa 10 -> Fifa 11 was a bigger leap.  The online alone was several steps a head, improved graphics, better animations, etc.
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#59  Edited By crusader8463

Leap backwards I would have to saw Dragon Age 1 to Dragon Age 2, and Dawn of War 1 to Dawn of War 2. In Dragon Age's case they destroyed so much of what made the first one one of my favourites, and with Dawn of War I just hated how they basically made it a Diablo style RPG instead of an RTS. 
 
As for leap forward... I guess what City of Heroes is today compared to what it launched as, but I suppose you could say that about any MMO if given enough time. 
 
I can't really think of any game that I felt improved by leaps and bounds over it's first one. It's always just felt like more of the same to me, in a good way, or they changed all the aspects I loved from the previous one to the point that it has none of the things I liked about the first one any more. 
 
I guess Red Alert to Red Alert 2, but it wasn't so much made better as it was just a different game that I ended up enjoying just as much as the first one.

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#60  Edited By Akeldama
@Three0neFive said:
" Dragon Age 2 -> Dragon Age: Origins "
Mass Effect 2 -> Mass Effect  
 
Bioware cant make a sequel for shit.
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#61  Edited By KaosAngel
@Akeldama: I know it's cool to hate on games that win GOTY and whatnot, but I don't think anyone wants ME over ME2.  ME3 will be more like ME2 than ME because ME wasn't that good when it came to the playing.
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#62  Edited By AhmadMetallic

GTA 2 to 3, 3 and Vice City to San Andreas, San Andreas to IV 
 
splendid

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#63  Edited By KaosAngel

How the hell no one mention Battlefield 2 -> Battlefield 3 yet?

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#64  Edited By mercutio123

KILLZONE to KILLZONE 2

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#65  Edited By Akeldama
@KaosAngel: No. This is not me hating on whats popular. When I play RPGs, I dont want to be playing a half assed gears clone. No loot? Ammo all of a sudden? I never once paused the game to use the tactical view. It was a shooter and EA got the game they wanted. I love Mass Effect and Dragon Age: Origins. I do not like weak Gears of War clones and even weaker hack and slash games.
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#66  Edited By xaLieNxGrEyx
@GoofyGoober: 
 
But GTA3 was better
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#67  Edited By ShaggE
@xaLieNxGrEyx: When did he say otherwise? "leap in quality" doesn't necessarily mean "better".
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#68  Edited By neozeke
@Akeldama: Bu,t, even then Mass Effect one had some serious trouble with gear management, combat, and basically everything outside of the RPG elements. ME2 is a better balance between combat and dialouge. I didn't like how they got rid of alot of the leveling stuff and loot, but it played better and imo had better characters. Plus, I'd say it was a better experience overall due to the changes.
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#69  Edited By tmthomsen

Windows Vista -> Windows 7

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Killzone to Killzone 2 was pretty huge.

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#71  Edited By Mr_Skeleton

Mass Effect to Mass Effect 2 
 
@Three0neFive
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                    Dragon Age 2 -> Dragon Age: Origins

                   

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I see what you did there

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#72  Edited By GoofyGoober

BC1-BC2.  

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#73  Edited By TwoLines

Jak n' Daxter ---> Jak II
 
And RE -->RE4, I really like RE4. I kinda like RE2.

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#74  Edited By SadPatrol

Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2.

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#75  Edited By ImmortalSaiyan

Dead or Alive 2 was a huge step up from the first game. I'd say the biggest is Resident Evil 4. To go from a series of poor games to one of the best games ever is quite the feat.
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Uncharted to Uncharted 2.  
 
I think it's under-recognized just how much less polished UC1 was.

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#77  Edited By Surkov
@KaosAngel said:
" How the hell no one mention Battlefield 2 -> Battlefield 3 yet? "
Probably because no one has played Battlefield 3
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#78  Edited By dudacles
@zombie2011 said:
" Fifa 9 ---> Fifa 10 "
I'd say that FIFA 07 to  08 was the biggest leap in quality the series has had in a single year (but that was mostly because FIFA 07 for current-gen consoles was a half-assed attempt to wow people with new ball physics that felt really weird and some of the worst passing and movement I've ever seen in a modern football game.) However, the most important jump probably was FIFA 08 to FIFA 09. That was the moment when FIFA definitively overtook PES as the best footy franchise on the market.
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#79  Edited By blueduck
@ImmortalSaiyan said:
" Dead or Alive 2 was a huge step up from the first game. I'd say the biggest is Resident Evil 4. To go from a series of poor games to one of the best games ever is quite the feat. "
Troll fail. Have a nice day!
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#80  Edited By EuanDewar
@Surkov said:
" @KaosAngel said:
" How the hell no one mention Battlefield 2 -> Battlefield 3 yet? "
Probably because no one has played Battlefield 3 "
I don't know if you were following the forums close to Gran Turismo 5's release but when KaosAngel is looking forward to a game he is really looking forward to a game.
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#81  Edited By ImmortalSaiyan
@blueduck:
I'm not trolling it's just how I feel. I just answered the question.
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#82  Edited By xaLieNxGrEyx
@ShaggE:
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#83  Edited By GJSmitty

Mass Effect to Mass Effect 2. 
Or Uncharted to Uncharted 2

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#84  Edited By jorbear

Empire: Total War to Total War: Shogun 2. 
I can't think of any counter arguments for this one. So I guess I win?

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#85  Edited By Synthballs
@SadPatrol
Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2.
This.
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#86  Edited By Yummylee
@LunarAura said:
" @Ygg said:
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                    @GetEveryone said:

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                    Everything before Resident Evil 4 -> Resident Evil 4.  That game did so many things right and stands as one of the modern greats. I don't mean to say it's predecessors were anything less than stellar, but 4 really did produce a paradigm shift in the series' direction/quality.  5 isn't great, though.

                   

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4 wasn't the best game in the series and is ultimately why the series has became what it has; a shadow of its former self.  Yeah, it was a competent action game that made good use of the perspective, but it wasn't a proper Resident Evil game or worthy of being the next entry in the series.  The gunplay in 4 and 5 is laughably bad, enemies just bounce when you hit and kill them. Please, They didn't even bother fixing/improving the animation when you kill standard enemies.

                   

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Agreed. I thought 4 was a devolution if anything. Maybe the biggest RE jump was 3 to Code Veronica imo. "
Say wut?? Veronica was one of the worst for me. The only step forward was its 3D environments, which was thankful, but they took out free-movement across staircases, requiring you to now once more press a button to automatically travel up/down them. Made all the worse for when a zombie would start moving up/down thus cutting off your access to the stairs. And what happened to my decapitations?! Dx Instead we just had their head spew out blood, rather than completely pop altogether, when shot by a magnum pistol.
 
It was a great RE game and all, but it hardly moved the series anywhere. 
 
As for my own pics, with most of the expected suspects are already lined up with DMC2 > DMC3, GTA2 > GTA3 ect. I'll go for Dino Crisis > Dino Crisis 2. Really disliked the original and it felt far too much like a complete mimic of Resident Evil. It was RE with dinosaurs, but without the fun, frankly; thanks to dull combat, and the ratio of combat/exploration and puzzles was far out of synch, with most of my time left scrounging for numbers to input, much more so than any of the RE games, with it also lacking the environmental diversity that the RE games had. Dino Crisis 2 at least then set itself its own identity and made for a more suitable action game, and a fucking brilliant one at that.
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#87  Edited By FreakAche
@ViciousReiven said:
" The last 3 Elder Scrolls games, and continuing to the next, every game is a huge leap forward. "
I'd say Oblivion took more steps backward than it did forward. Not that it's a bad game though.
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#88  Edited By ViciousReiven
@FreakAche said:
" @ViciousReiven said:
" The last 3 Elder Scrolls games, and continuing to the next, every game is a huge leap forward. "
I'd say Oblivion took more steps backward than it did forward. Not that it's a bad game though. "
If backwards equals fun then I agree.
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A recent one would be Two Worlds -> Two Worlds 2

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#90  Edited By Nerdware

Call of Duty 3 to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare.  That was an astonishing leap.

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#91  Edited By FreakAche
@ViciousReiven said:
" @FreakAche said:
" @ViciousReiven said:
" The last 3 Elder Scrolls games, and continuing to the next, every game is a huge leap forward. "
I'd say Oblivion took more steps backward than it did forward. Not that it's a bad game though. "
If backwards equals fun then I agree. "
I don't know. I like some of the things that Oblivion did, but it's such a small game by comparison. I've pretty much run out of things to do in Oblivion, yet even today I'm constantly able to come back to Morrowind and experience something new.
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#92  Edited By kingzetta

AC1 to AC2 
It's hard to think they are both in the same generation.

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#93  Edited By mikemcn
@jorbear said:

" Empire: Total War to Total War: Shogun 2. I can't think of any counter arguments for this one. So I guess I win? "

No way, Shogun has a few welcome mechanics and tweaks, but the AI is still terrible and its still fairly buggy. Hell, the part where you actually fight dudes is exactly like it was in Rome Total war when it comes down to it.  
 
@Synthballs said:

" @SadPatrol

Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2.
This. "
I would agree with this, Mass Effect 1 and 2 played so much differently and were presented in a radically different manner. 
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#94  Edited By jorbear
@Mikemcn said:
" @jorbear said:
" Empire: Total War to Total War: Shogun 2. I can't think of any counter arguments for this one. So I guess I win? "
No way, Shogun has a few welcome mechanics and tweaks, but the AI is still terrible and its still fairly buggy. Hell, the part where you actually fight dudes is exactly like it was in Rome Total war when it comes down to it.  "
The actual fighting part in the Total War series has been almost exactly the same from the first Shogun. The AI is still not the best and there are bugs, but compared to the mess that was Empire, I would say its a big improvement.
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#95  Edited By pweidman
@xobballox said:
"A recent one would be Two Worlds -> Two Worlds 2 "

In terms of improved in every way technically, this was a massive upgrade, agreed.
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#96  Edited By NTM
@jakob187 said:
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                    Assassin's Creed -----> Assassin's Creed II was pretty radical in terms of quality.  A lot of the repetition was taken out, but on top of that, the storytelling was magnificently handled.

                   

                "

I thought I was going to see this. I agree that it has been improved for the better, but I don't see it as a huge leap.
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#97  Edited By Dedodido
@ViciousReiven said:
" The last 3 Elder Scrolls games, and continuing to the next, every game is a huge leap forward. "
Obvious troll is obvious.
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#98  Edited By niall_sg1
@HODGEY3000 said:
" Doom 2 to Doom 3 "
Sorry you've got that backwards.  
 
Doom 3 < Doom 2 < Doom 1    
 
On another note I'd have to say Assassins Creed for most improved. That or Conker Live and Reloaded. 
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#99  Edited By Voxatron

Resident Evil 3 -> Resident Evil 4 

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#100  Edited By Griddler

So many.
Uncharted 2>1
Assassins Creed 2>1
Just Cause 2>1
Killzone 2>1 
These are the first that come to mind.