Now that I've saddled into Whiskey Media's universe of stuff(Giant Bomb and Screened, with the occasional view of Comic Vine), I'm desperately craving to be a part of a music website created by Whiskey Media.
I love what's out there, but I've never been able to find a good community of people on the internet. I think it would be great to have a wiki-styled music site.
Nah, too many problems would arise. There is a shitload more music then there is video games, and the line between what should be put on the site and what should be kept off would be hard to define. I have friends who recorded shitty guitar solos on cheap voice recorders, what would stop somebody from trying to clog the site up with stuff like that? What about bands like the Rolling Stones who have hundreds of bootleg concert CDs and DVDs out there?
Another big problem would be the forums: they would be a shitstorm from day one. If there is one thing every person seems to get defensive about, it's their taste in music. Metalheads are quick to sling shit towards Hip Hops way, et cetera. Moderation would be way too difficult and nobody would be able to say "I don't like this band/singer/group" without getting shat all over. If you have Last.fm, look at your favorite bands profile and scroll through the comments until you see somebody say how they really feel about the band: they get attacked by everyone.
Maybe if Whiskey focused on a more specific genre of music there would be some degree of civility. Have a Rock website. Have a Rap website. But for the love of all things holy, do not try and make fans of either coexist.
" Nah, too many problems would arise. There is a shitload more music then there is video games, and the line between what should be put on the site and what should be kept off would be hard to define. I have friends who recorded shitty guitar solos on cheap voice recorders, what would stop somebody from trying to clog the site up with stuff like that? What about bands like the Rolling Stones who have hundreds of bootleg concert CDs and DVDs out there? Another big problem would be the forums: they would be a shitstorm from day one. If there is one thing every person seems to get defensive about, it's their taste in music. Metalheads are quick to sling shit towards Hip Hops way, et cetera. Moderation would be way too difficult and nobody would be able to say "I don't like this band/singer/group" without getting shat all over. If you have Last.fm, look at your favorite bands profile and scroll through the comments until you see somebody say how they really feel about the band: they get attacked by everyone. "
Solution:
A Whiskey Media Hip-Hop site featuring Method and Red as the editors.
It probably will be, but that's not to say it should be. First of all it will have to be as large as giantbomb (staff size), with people who have a varied taste in music, which in turn creates problems (how can you have a guy who really likes rap talk about music to another guy who really likes pop?). What's more there's a severe danger it could become an elitist shithole of 'music is better than yours' and 'How alternative can you get?' I also don't really know how they can really write (let alone create videos about) music for very long.
" Nah, too many problems would arise. There is a shitload more music then there is video games, and the line between what should be put on the site and what should be kept off would be hard to define. I have friends who recorded shitty guitar solos on cheap voice recorders, what would stop somebody from trying to clog the site up with stuff like that? What about bands like the Rolling Stones who have hundreds of bootleg concert CDs and DVDs out there? "
I have a camera function on my cell phone, can I enter that onto Screened?
" Nah, too many problems would arise. There is a shitload more music then there is video games, and the line between what should be put on the site and what should be kept off would be hard to define. I have friends who recorded shitty guitar solos on cheap voice recorders, what would stop somebody from trying to clog the site up with stuff like that? What about bands like the Rolling Stones who have hundreds of bootleg concert CDs and DVDs out there? "
I have a camera function on my cell phone, can I enter that onto Screened? "
See, you're proving my point. The boundary is far more defined for what should pass on a movie site then what could pass on a music site. It would be ridiculous for somebody who made a five minute video for an English class in high school to put their work on Screened but it sounds much more reasonable for a little garage band who plays shows to crowds of ten people to be on the music site. What about DJs? Should their remixes count as music?
Is this an application because I'd love to be an editor of that site. I think it could work as long as they moderated well. It could potentially be the record store of the internet. Where you can get those guys and gals that can suggest other artists similar to the ones you like and expand your horizons and the ones who can turn some one from liking Nickleback to howl'en wolf or something by way of suggestion.
" Nah, too many problems would arise. There is a shitload more music then there is video games, and the line between what should be put on the site and what should be kept off would be hard to define. I have friends who recorded shitty guitar solos on cheap voice recorders, what would stop somebody from trying to clog the site up with stuff like that? What about bands like the Rolling Stones who have hundreds of bootleg concert CDs and DVDs out there? "
I have a camera function on my cell phone, can I enter that onto Screened? "
See, you're proving my point. The boundary is far more defined for what should pass on a movie site then what could pass on a music site. It would be ridiculous for somebody who made a five minute video for an English class in high school to put their work on Screened but it sounds much more reasonable for a little garage band who plays shows to crowds of ten people to be on the music site. What about DJs? Should their remixes count as music? "
There are indie gamer developer teams of 1 who make shitty little mods for games. They aren't on this site are they? He didn't prove your point. This isn't Youtube where you can just post whatever. Sure they could post a blog about their band, but they couldn't create a page unless they had enough points or a mod accepted it (or how ever they'd chose to do it).
" Nah, too many problems would arise. There is a shitload more music then there is video games, and the line between what should be put on the site and what should be kept off would be hard to define. I have friends who recorded shitty guitar solos on cheap voice recorders, what would stop somebody from trying to clog the site up with stuff like that? What about bands like the Rolling Stones who have hundreds of bootleg concert CDs and DVDs out there? "
I have a camera function on my cell phone, can I enter that onto Screened? "
See, you're proving my point. The boundary is far more defined for what should pass on a movie site then what could pass on a music site. It would be ridiculous for somebody who made a five minute video for an English class in high school to put their work on Screened but it sounds much more reasonable for a little garage band who plays shows to crowds of ten people to be on the music site. What about DJs? Should their remixes count as music? "
How bout only music that is released to some extent of masses(iTunes etc.) is allowed. Maybe a forum dedicated to unsigned artists(and users) for all that discussion. Remixes can be mentioned in the original release pages. DJs count if their stuff is released to the masses. Radiohead counts if they do some bullshit to release their next CD.
@kmdrkul: Do you know how many indie and flash games there are that aren't listed on this site? Now obviously there is a shit ton of music, but Whiskey sites tend to have a very narrow margin for what is acceptable.
Usually.
I also don't see how forum arguments would be a problem. You act like the same exact thing doesn't happen here.
For some reason we always argue about anime though.
No. A combined community website should be next where all the forums pleasantly collide.
Got a comic or movie question? Post it in the vine or screened section. Got a PC tech question? Tested section. Why go to a different site and forum that's owned and run by the same company in the same divider-less basement?
@MrKlorox: you're talking more about a feature that everyone has been requesting forever now.
also, I don't understand the argument of everyone bitching at everyone else. It seems that communities around Whiskey have been pretty respectful towards everyone with tight moderation for the couple of trolls that come around, I don't see a new site being a problem.
@TurboMan: Pfft... semantics. It's more than just a site.
Whiskey should stop where they are, as far as new content genres go, and work on fine-tuning and further-developing what they have. Asking for another site is like asking for Whiskey to go belly-up.
" Nah, too many problems would arise. There is a shitload more music then there is video games, and the line between what should be put on the site and what should be kept off would be hard to define. I have friends who recorded shitty guitar solos on cheap voice recorders, what would stop somebody from trying to clog the site up with stuff like that? What about bands like the Rolling Stones who have hundreds of bootleg concert CDs and DVDs out there? Another big problem would be the forums: they would be a shitstorm from day one. If there is one thing every person seems to get defensive about, it's their taste in music. Metalheads are quick to sling shit towards Hip Hops way, et cetera. Moderation would be way too difficult and nobody would be able to say "I don't like this band/singer/group" without getting shat all over. If you have Last.fm, look at your favorite bands profile and scroll through the comments until you see somebody say how they really feel about the band: they get attacked by everyone. "
Solution: A Whiskey Media Hip-Hop site featuring Method and Red as the editors. Oh and of course Ice-T would do some freelance. "
The logistics of creating a database driven website about music would be very hard to do, and that's only speaking from the developer side of the website. Not to mention the editorial and community stuff.
" The logistics of creating a database driven website about music would be very hard to do, and that's only speaking from the developer side of the website. Not to mention the editorial and community stuff. I, for one, would love a sports site. "
I could see the development side mimicking screened, and while all pages aren't filled to the brim, there is a lot of information that has been taken from other websites around the web.
and while the editors can't track everything(obviously), at least they'll have the ability to point you in a general direction to what they feel is good content(editors with mixed tastes, but generally apreciate everything.)
Also, A sports site could be great too, but if there's worry about arguing community for music, it's going to be a shit storm for sports.
Music reviews are the most ridiculously subjective. We all listen to music for different purposes, and the concept of what determines "art" in music is debatable at best. Because they're on a search for "art," most music critics tend to praise indie/hipster material that is either uniquely banal or borderline unlistenable. I don't want that kind of analysis in whiskey media.
" Music reviews are the most ridiculously subjective. We all listen to music for different purposes, and the concept of what determines "art" in music is debatable at best. Because they're on a search for "art," most music critics tend to praise indie/hipster material that is either uniquely banal or borderline unlistenable. I don't want that kind of analysis in whiskey media. "
All reviews are subjective in general. We've just had this problem on Giant Bomb just now with Limbo(and Flower), the people that dig it really dig and the other think that its decent at best, terrible and overpriced at worst.
While I wouldn't object to a music site (though I doubt I'd pay much attention to it since I'm pretty dull music-wise), I'd rather see a website dedicated to cars or sports. I know there's already a bunch of those sites around the Internet, and ESPN.com's pretty close to definitive in its mainstream US sport coverage , but I wouldn't mind either of those subjects with the Whiskey-branded twist.
Of course, because of the all-too-true point that those sites would bring argumentative shitstorms, a car or sports site would need to be heavily moderated to prevent the forums from being engulfed in flippant douchebaggery. Heck, if the screws could actually be tightened enough to allow for interesting and insightful conversation instead of unwarranted flaming and hate on such sites, that would be a positive against any competitors. Speaking in idealistic fantasy terms, naturally.
i think it would be a great idea. i think it's kinda ridiculous that so many people are saying people wouldn't get along or some shit, it's not like different music genres are that controversial.. the most ridiculous thing in the video game community is console wars but we do a pretty good job avoiding any discussion on that here at GB, right? honestly i'd be surprised if there were any such major issue at a whiskey media site. if anything, i think it would allow people to respect other people's opinions and genre preferences and such
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