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#1 Posted by Masha2932 (1241 posts) -

With all the recent announcements about HD remakes and re-releases, is it even worth it buying a new game on the current consoles?  Why bother buying uncharted 3 for example when i can buy Uncharted 1-3 on the ps4 in the near future.
  
What do you guys think about remakes and re-releases?

#2 Posted by Anund (893 posts) -

Your patience is inspiring.

#3 Posted by PenguinDust (12514 posts) -

"Near future"?  What are you talking about?  Chances are we're still 2 or 3 years away from a PS4.  On top of that, I wouldn't expect a compilation of the Uncharted series for a few years after that.  Sure, wait if you don't mind not playing it until 2017.  

#4 Posted by ArchScabby (5809 posts) -

Your thinking is wrong man.

#5 Edited by MysteriousBob (6272 posts) -

a) An Uncharted collection isn't guaranteed. 
b) An Uncharted collection may take 10 years to see a release for all we know.
c) There's no significant new tech to warrant a re-release any time soon. Uncharted is already in HD (and 3D?), you'll need to wait until 4D Hyper Definition TVs are common for a release in that format. 
d) What format would the collection come on? A disc set seems pointless. 
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new. 
f) The wait for a PS4 is long enough. I mean, it's what, at least two years away? 
g) Why would you buy a new console for a game you can buy now? 
 
???????

#6 Posted by UlquioKani (1057 posts) -
Even if they did releases Uncharted 1 - 3 on PS4, it will later in the consoles life, so you are looking at 5 - 8 years. If you willing to wait then power to you
#7 Posted by Pyrgz (256 posts) -

because you might die soon so you should play games when you can

#8 Posted by Pyrgz (256 posts) -

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

#9 Edited by Dimsey (954 posts) -

I like playing games while they're at least somewhat relevant and don't especially care to wait some years for an up-rezed re-release just because it'll look a little purrdier.

Really I'd prefer that consoles from here on out were just better about being backwards compatible so I shouldn't feel the need to re-purchase games I bought years before.

#10 Posted by PenguinDust (12514 posts) -
@Pyrgz said:

because you might die soon so you should play games when you can

2012, man, it's just around the corner.
#11 Posted by MysteriousBob (6272 posts) -
@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong.  

I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.
#12 Posted by Pyrgz (256 posts) -

@PenguinDust said:

@Pyrgz said:

because you might die soon so you should play games when you can

2012, man, it's just around the corner.

2012 is like five years away

#13 Posted by DrPockets000 (2859 posts) -

NO YOU SHOULD NOT JUST WAIT FOR THE PS4 VERSION!!!

#14 Posted by Daiphyer (1337 posts) -

*Just like Stone Cold would've said* What?!

#15 Posted by Masha2932 (1241 posts) -

I guess i'm just feeling disillusioned about all the announcements regarding remakes. Today it's game A, tomorrow all games are getting re-releases

#16 Posted by Marz (5651 posts) -

I think you should wait until you die :)

#17 Posted by Brendan (7805 posts) -

That's taking it too far. Just play the games that you're interested in, and can afford, now. Don't try to predict the future years down the road.

#18 Posted by HitmanAgent47 (8576 posts) -

Just rent the games, I wish I did.

#19 Posted by Masha2932 (1241 posts) -
@Marz: But then i may as well wait for the afterlife remake.
#20 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

#21 Posted by oatz (1103 posts) -

I DONT FUCKING KNOW MAN JUST DONT SHOOT

#22 Posted by Kyle (2323 posts) -

@PenguinDust said:

@Pyrgz said:

because you might die soon so you should play games when you can

2012, man, it's just around the corner.

No kidding! I mean, let's get real people: If Sony doesn't shoot for a November '12 launch, there won't even BE a PS4!

#23 Posted by UlquioKani (1057 posts) -
@SeriouslyNow said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor
#24 Posted by imsh_pl (3295 posts) -

Just wait for the PS3 emulator, I'm sure PCs are gonna be able to handle it smoothly in 7 or 8 years.

#25 Posted by S0ndor (2716 posts) -

I'd wait for the PS6 if I were you. The PS6 will have full motion controls with voice commands to tell Drake to go left and right.

#26 Posted by MancombSeepgood (335 posts) -

Here's the thing about these "remakes". 
 
They're just being remastered. Sure, sometimes there's a few extra bits and pieces thrown in but for the most part, the game remains exactly the same
 
The reason these games are seeing re-releases is because they look better in HD. The graphics remain the same. 
 
Therefore, if the next console has no further advancement in the way games look on our TV's rather than the actual graphic processing power, then re-releases are unlikely until we see some other stuff coming out.

#27 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

@UlquioKani said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor

Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.

#28 Posted by Willin (1280 posts) -

Why not wait till Playstation 5?

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#29 Posted by YoungFrey (1321 posts) -

Sony's current push for bundels of PS2 classics is being driven by the need to have 3D games on the PS3.  The PS2 games can manage a real framerate while doing 3D.  I can't even say if that need will still exist in the PS4 era.  Plus prices drop pretty rapidly.  You can often get new games for $40 within weeks of them coming out if you watch the sales.  And you will likely pay $20 if you wait a year. 
#30 Posted by UlquioKani (1057 posts) -
@SeriouslyNow said:

@UlquioKani said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor

Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.

Standards have moved forward. We have played better games. Even though the game is the same, we have played better games so the initial wow factor disappears
#31 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

@UlquioKani said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@UlquioKani said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor

Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.

Standards have moved forward. We have played better games. Even though the game is the same, we have played better games so the initial wow factor disappears

Explain the almost constant (per generation) remakes of the game then. Chrono Trigger was never a game with a huge audience. You keep using the phrase 'wow factor' and I'm talking about Chrono Trigger, not Star Fox.

#32 Posted by Kyle (2323 posts) -

@S0ndor said:

I'd wait for the PS6 if I were you. The PS6 will have full motion controls with voice commands to tell Drake to go left and right.

I heard the PS7 is going to have a sandwich press. Or BE a sandwich press. We all know games are headed towards interactive sandwich experiences.

#33 Posted by UlquioKani (1057 posts) -
@SeriouslyNow said:

@UlquioKani said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@UlquioKani said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor

Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.

Standards have moved forward. We have played better games. Even though the game is the same, we have played better games so the initial wow factor disappears

Explain the almost constant (per generation) remakes of the game then. Chrono Trigger was never a game with a huge audience. You keep using the phrase 'wow factor' and I'm talking about Chrono Trigger, not Star Fox.

Remakes are made so a new generation can experience the games(and money). The games story and aesthetics haven't really aged but the mechanics are more dated. The game was amazing for it's time but because standards have moved forwards, it doesn't have the same impact that it had before. In terms of JRPG's there are better games out there. If you go back to playing Chronotrigger now, you may not have the same experience now becuase you have played newer games which have taken out the problems older games have had.
#34 Posted by buft (3317 posts) -

Do it, we will see you when you get there

#35 Posted by zyn (2591 posts) -

Why wait for PS4 when you can wait for the PS5?  eh?  eh?

#36 Posted by IBurningStar (2172 posts) -

I should probably stop buying movies. They might release a different and better cut of the film in the future. Or maybe a collectors edition Blueray that has more bonus features than any version I could get now.

#37 Posted by Herocide (440 posts) -
@UlquioKani said:
Remakes are made so a new generation can experience the games(and money). The games story and aesthetics haven't really aged but the mechanics are more dated. The game was amazing for it's time but because standards have moved forwards, it doesn't have the same impact that it had before. In terms of JRPG's there are better games out there. If you go back to playing Chronotrigger now, you may not have the same experience now becuase you have played newer games which have taken out the problems older games have had.
A friend of mine who had never played Chrono Trigger before got a ROM of it and started playing it a couple months ago. He was as amazed with it as many people were when the game came out, if only for its sophistication for such an old game.
#38 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

@UlquioKani said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@UlquioKani said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@UlquioKani said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor

Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.

Standards have moved forward. We have played better games. Even though the game is the same, we have played better games so the initial wow factor disappears

Explain the almost constant (per generation) remakes of the game then. Chrono Trigger was never a game with a huge audience. You keep using the phrase 'wow factor' and I'm talking about Chrono Trigger, not Star Fox.

Remakes are made so a new generation can experience the games(and money). The games story and aesthetics haven't really aged but the mechanics are more dated. The game was amazing for it's time but because standards have moved forwards, it doesn't have the same impact that it had before. In terms of JRPG's there are better games out there. If you go back to playing Chronotrigger now, you may not have the same experience now becuase you have played newer games which have taken out the problems older games have had.

Remakes of Chrono Trigger are made due to a demand for them. Square Enix have only ever made two games with the franchise and the second game (which arguably has more 'wow factor' - to use your poor analogy) and Chrono Cross has not been remade for any newer platform. There may well be newer and more advanced games in the same genre than Chrono Trigger but arguably it is one of the best of its type. New generations of players might well be immediately wowed by the game and older fans might well enjoy some of the newer features of the remake. I understand you're not that interested in my point of view as you keep repeating yours while ignoring mine so let's just agree to disagree.

#39 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@zyn said:
Why wait for PS4 when you can wait for the PS5?  eh?  eh?
I see what you fucking did there.
#40 Posted by Chirag4 (585 posts) -

If you're willing to wait that long, by all means, go for it.

#41 Posted by onarum (2084 posts) -

If you're willing to wait 4-6 years to play a game be my guest.
 
Even IF they release a PS4 in 2 -3 years it would still be another good 2 years before they even consider releasing a collection like that, I mean how long did they take to release the GoW hd collections? yeah...

#42 Edited by MysteriousBob (6272 posts) -
@SeriouslyNow said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

Kind of hard to give a toss about Chrono Trigger when I have Fallout 3.
#43 Posted by Cirdain (3089 posts) -

Yep... meanwhile buy a PC and bathe in the Glory

#44 Posted by Gaff (1747 posts) -

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Alarms bells should've started ringing when Deus Ex was called "retro".

#45 Posted by Pyrgz (256 posts) -

@MysteriousBob said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

Kind of hard to give a toss about Chrono Trigger when I have Fallout 3.

You're not even trying!

#46 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

no, you shouldn't. yo don't even know if uncharted is going to be coming out. the ps4 probably isn't coming out for another 3 or so more years, you are going to have to wait for uncharted remake to come out. that is going to be another couple of years. you are going to be waiting for a long time for a remake.

#47 Posted by ConstantRa1n (293 posts) -
@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong.  I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.
Fallout 3, Mario, etc.
#48 Posted by Skald (4367 posts) -

Just wait for the PS5. It'll have Uncharted 1-6 Super HD.

#49 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

@MysteriousBob said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@Pyrgz said:

@MysteriousBob said:

e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.

I'm just not sure about this, Bob.

Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.

Chrono Trigger.

Kind of hard to give a toss about Chrono Trigger when I have Fallout 3.

Not the same game by most measures. Sure, they're both RPGs but they each offer different things. Also, how many times has Fallout 3 been remade?

#50 Posted by jorbear (2517 posts) -

You should totally buy a racing wheel, man.