With all the recent announcements about HD remakes and re-releases, is it even worth it buying a new game on the current consoles? Why bother buying uncharted 3 for example when i can buy Uncharted 1-3 on the ps4 in the near future.
What do you guys think about remakes and re-releases?
SHOULD I JUST WAIT FOR THE PS4 VERSION?
"Near future"? What are you talking about? Chances are we're still 2 or 3 years away from a PS4. On top of that, I wouldn't expect a compilation of the Uncharted series for a few years after that. Sure, wait if you don't mind not playing it until 2017.
a) An Uncharted collection isn't guaranteed.
b) An Uncharted collection may take 10 years to see a release for all we know.
c) There's no significant new tech to warrant a re-release any time soon. Uncharted is already in HD (and 3D?), you'll need to wait until 4D Hyper Definition TVs are common for a release in that format.
d) What format would the collection come on? A disc set seems pointless.
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.
f) The wait for a PS4 is long enough. I mean, it's what, at least two years away?
g) Why would you buy a new console for a game you can buy now?
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I like playing games while they're at least somewhat relevant and don't especially care to wait some years for an up-rezed re-release just because it'll look a little purrdier.
Really I'd prefer that consoles from here on out were just better about being backwards compatible so I shouldn't feel the need to re-purchase games I bought years before.
2012, man, it's just around the corner.because you might die soon so you should play games when you can
Name a single example to prove me wrong.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.
@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
I'd wait for the PS6 if I were you. The PS6 will have full motion controls with voice commands to tell Drake to go left and right.
Here's the thing about these "remakes".
They're just being remastered. Sure, sometimes there's a few extra bits and pieces thrown in but for the most part, the game remains exactly the same.
The reason these games are seeing re-releases is because they look better in HD. The graphics remain the same.
Therefore, if the next console has no further advancement in the way games look on our TV's rather than the actual graphic processing power, then re-releases are unlikely until we see some other stuff coming out.
@UlquioKani said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.
Sony's current push for bundels of PS2 classics is being driven by the need to have 3D games on the PS3. The PS2 games can manage a real framerate while doing 3D. I can't even say if that need will still exist in the PS4 era. Plus prices drop pretty rapidly. You can often get new games for $40 within weeks of them coming out if you watch the sales. And you will likely pay $20 if you wait a year.
Standards have moved forward. We have played better games. Even though the game is the same, we have played better games so the initial wow factor disappears@UlquioKani said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.
@UlquioKani said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Standards have moved forward. We have played better games. Even though the game is the same, we have played better games so the initial wow factor disappears@UlquioKani said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.
Explain the almost constant (per generation) remakes of the game then. Chrono Trigger was never a game with a huge audience. You keep using the phrase 'wow factor' and I'm talking about Chrono Trigger, not Star Fox.
@S0ndor said:
I'd wait for the PS6 if I were you. The PS6 will have full motion controls with voice commands to tell Drake to go left and right.
I heard the PS7 is going to have a sandwich press. Or BE a sandwich press. We all know games are headed towards interactive sandwich experiences.
Remakes are made so a new generation can experience the games(and money). The games story and aesthetics haven't really aged but the mechanics are more dated. The game was amazing for it's time but because standards have moved forwards, it doesn't have the same impact that it had before. In terms of JRPG's there are better games out there. If you go back to playing Chronotrigger now, you may not have the same experience now becuase you have played newer games which have taken out the problems older games have had.@UlquioKani said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Standards have moved forward. We have played better games. Even though the game is the same, we have played better games so the initial wow factor disappears@UlquioKani said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.
Explain the almost constant (per generation) remakes of the game then. Chrono Trigger was never a game with a huge audience. You keep using the phrase 'wow factor' and I'm talking about Chrono Trigger, not Star Fox.
I should probably stop buying movies. They might release a different and better cut of the film in the future. Or maybe a collectors edition Blueray that has more bonus features than any version I could get now.
Remakes are made so a new generation can experience the games(and money). The games story and aesthetics haven't really aged but the mechanics are more dated. The game was amazing for it's time but because standards have moved forwards, it doesn't have the same impact that it had before. In terms of JRPG's there are better games out there. If you go back to playing Chronotrigger now, you may not have the same experience now becuase you have played newer games which have taken out the problems older games have had.A friend of mine who had never played Chrono Trigger before got a ROM of it and started playing it a couple months ago. He was as amazed with it as many people were when the game came out, if only for its sophistication for such an old game.
@UlquioKani said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Remakes are made so a new generation can experience the games(and money). The games story and aesthetics haven't really aged but the mechanics are more dated. The game was amazing for it's time but because standards have moved forwards, it doesn't have the same impact that it had before. In terms of JRPG's there are better games out there. If you go back to playing Chronotrigger now, you may not have the same experience now becuase you have played newer games which have taken out the problems older games have had.@UlquioKani said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Standards have moved forward. We have played better games. Even though the game is the same, we have played better games so the initial wow factor disappears@UlquioKani said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Not as exciting or as fresh now. The game mechanics are now old. It is a good game still but not as good as when it first came out and had that wow factor@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
Sorry what? Even the remakes are almost entirely the same as the original in terms of gameplay. It is a great game still and actually still looks and plays best on a real SNES.
Explain the almost constant (per generation) remakes of the game then. Chrono Trigger was never a game with a huge audience. You keep using the phrase 'wow factor' and I'm talking about Chrono Trigger, not Star Fox.
Remakes of Chrono Trigger are made due to a demand for them. Square Enix have only ever made two games with the franchise and the second game (which arguably has more 'wow factor' - to use your poor analogy) and Chrono Cross has not been remade for any newer platform. There may well be newer and more advanced games in the same genre than Chrono Trigger but arguably it is one of the best of its type. New generations of players might well be immediately wowed by the game and older fans might well enjoy some of the newer features of the remake. I understand you're not that interested in my point of view as you keep repeating yours while ignoring mine so let's just agree to disagree.
Kind of hard to give a toss about Chrono Trigger when I have Fallout 3.@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:
Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.
I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Alarms bells should've started ringing when Deus Ex was called "retro".
@MysteriousBob said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Kind of hard to give a toss about Chrono Trigger when I have Fallout 3.@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:
Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.
I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
You're not even trying!
no, you shouldn't. yo don't even know if uncharted is going to be coming out. the ps4 probably isn't coming out for another 3 or so more years, you are going to have to wait for uncharted remake to come out. that is going to be another couple of years. you are going to be waiting for a long time for a remake.
@Pyrgz said:Fallout 3, Mario, etc.Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
@MysteriousBob said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Kind of hard to give a toss about Chrono Trigger when I have Fallout 3.@MysteriousBob said:
@Pyrgz said:
Name a single example to prove me wrong. I'm not saying retro games aren't fun, but I'm far less impressed by Deus Ex when I play it for the first time ten years after its initial release. Thats just a random example.@MysteriousBob said:
e) If you wait, the novelty of a new game is gone. Good games are at their best when they're new.
I'm just not sure about this, Bob.
Chrono Trigger.
Not the same game by most measures. Sure, they're both RPGs but they each offer different things. Also, how many times has Fallout 3 been remade?
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