Should we have guest scientists for Ranking the Fighters?

I understand that the point of Ranking the Fighters is to get the 2 most qualified fighting game players/scientists (Jeff and Jason) to play every fighting game in existence and rank them from first to last. However, we know that people like Brad and Dan like specific fighting games too. Do you think they should appear in an episode or 2 to provide their input and help rank specific fighting games? With Dan we're not sure as we don't know if he ever steps foot in the GB San Fransisco office again after losing to Jason in SFV, but Brad can appear. Or would they be too biased towards their favorites and should the feature just have Jeff and Jason since they hold Doctorates in Fighting Games? Maybe have other guests like Dave Lang come in if available since he is behind the science of some fighting games. Otherwise, here are some games that these duders could play in Ranking the Fighters if permitted.

Brad:

• Mortal Kombat 2: Duh, his favorite fighter.
• Lethal League: Kind of a stretch, but I remember Brad digging this title.
• Any Tekken: Pretty sure Brad likes Tekken on a causal level.

Dan:

• Soul Calibur: Dan's favorite fighter.
• Simpsons Wrestling: Dan adores The Simpsons and Wrestling, but the mixture of both is so toxic it could give Warren justice and be ranked lower than Power Moves.
• Any Mortal Kombat: Also applies to Brad.

Neither of the fine fellows mentioned are scientists. Allowing lay people to publish their research in a peer reviewed scientific video series would be extremely disruptive.

Please, let's leave it to the credentialed scienticians.

Additional variables can only serve to skew the current data from the experiment. Once the paper has been published the findings can be retested and verified by additional peer groups.

Science is impossible without a consistent, verifiable method. Changing the formula would necessitate the reevaluation of all earlier results, if one wants to be able to draw valid conclusions from the data.

Of course not. The science must be controlled like proper experiment...its a controlled study. Don't mess with the science.

Switches should only happen during the sad departure of Jeff or Jason, be that leaving this mortal coil or going to a new outlet. Let Jeff and Jason have their time together and let us enjoy their synergy.

I'd flip out if they got someone like Justin Wong in for an episode, but I doubt that would ever happen.

Last thing I want is some overqualified schmo coming in with rival science.

Exactly this. Normally I'd be all for some guest researchers to join in especially if they have a history with the subject. But this is cold hard science and changing the science guys now would, to be scientific about it, "fuck the whole thing."

What are we, savages? This is science.

Absolutely. The experiment must remain clean. Now there is nothing to stop a separate experiment from taking place. Same data would have to be entered. And the conclusions could then be compared. Did you vet these considered "scientists"? Would you consider their data at the same value as the current scientists? If not you must develop an equation that properly weights the data.

@mocbucket62: I think you're having trouble appreciating what they're trying to do. 100% no.

@hunkulese: Yeah, I guess the more I'm thinking about it, the more I realize that this whole science experiment will be ruined if anyone else joins in to rank the fighters. It would at least make for some good entertainment to see Brad mark out over Mortal Kombat 2 again, but that can be for another video. Let Fighting Professors Jeff and Jason continue their experiment on their own.

In addition to the fighterology research institute this site does have some entertainment programing. Nothing is preventing them from doing an Old Games Show, Encyclopedia Bombastica, or Unprofessional Fridays episode with MK II.

There are plenty of outlets for that coverage without compromising any research, just like astrology can exist alongside astronomy.

You know, a certain Pro Talk Show is filmed from the Twitch Offices...

But while I would love to see Miguel Rossington, PhD, Esquire, on the show, the show itself only works because Dr Jeff and Dr Jason are the only ones who can treat the games with the proper respect and scientific rigour they deserve.

I've been wanting to see a Giant Bomb X Cross Counter crossover for ages.

Nope. Keep the science pure!

I would love to see Gooteks and Mike Ross come in and do a training camp with Jason and Jeff though.

No it'll effect the precise science.

Experiments should always be repeated using the same method.

Glad to see that I wasn't needed here.

This would be the best thing to happen. The realest of guest scientists joining in.

Nah. Also, I think you actually don't get what Rankig of Fighters is.

I think that would be cool. If people are really so bothered about the "science", they could perhaps do some special episodes or a separate feature. I always like to see more good fighting game content.

The science is supreme and allows for no subjectivity whatsoever!

They could get a Jack Russell terrier to do the ranking, and it wouldn't matter. The day that Tattoo Assassins wasn't ranked "All-time A+ #1 Vidja Of All Ever Times W W W 100 Years Tattoo Assassins Dot Com 100 Times Forever And Ever", the entire experiment was tainted.

@polyesterkyle said:

I agree. I mean, how can we trust the data behind this research if some of the scientists didn't experience some elements in the ranking? Without them being present during the Ranma and Power Moves instances, how can they decide the position of new instances?

I would normally be all in favor of including guests in features, if only because it allows the crew to create more content, more regularly. However, this is not some mere content. This is science.

Only if they're experts in their field!

Can't have science without peer review of your findings!

yes

Nah, I'm good with Jeff and Jason

brad is a wizard and about as far from a qualificated scientician as you can get!

NO DARK BESPOKE ARTS IN MY RANKING OF FIGHTERS!!!!

Sounds like the opposite of science to me