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#1 Posted by shadykx125 (41 posts) -

As a big fan of the genre I wanted to disagree but then I realized that I have only played one this generation, and while Lost Odyssey was great, that is not enough to declare a genre alive. However I am sure that there are other that I simply missed playing. 
 
My question to you is are there any other current gen jrpgs worth playing?
#2 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11309 posts) -

Do the Mario ones on the DS count? Those are pretty good. 

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#3 Posted by Fajita_Jim (1463 posts) -

Only on the portables.

#4 Posted by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -

Persona is not dead, AFAIK. I guess you could still classify P4 as a last-gen game, having come out in 2008 for the PS2.
 
Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia are the only JRPGs from this generation that I actually liked.

#5 Posted by Sammo21 (3370 posts) -
@shadykx125: Nothing this generation at all other than Lost Odyssey honestly.  Everything else was PS2.  JRPGs are at the edge of undeath and this is even being said by Japanese game developers...
#6 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4851 posts) -

I don't really like JRPGs, but I have to agree that Lost Odyssey was a fantastic throwback to the classics of the genre. Really enjoyed that one.

#7 Edited by SomeJerk (3305 posts) -

 Valkyria Chronicles (kinda), Resonance of Fate, Vesperia.
 
 JRPGs are dead, undergoing rebirth.
 
Publishers have no faith.
 
It's up to J-Indie.
 
Have faith.

#8 Posted by FreakAche (2954 posts) -

Lost Odyssey was garbage.

#9 Posted by MorkkiTH (92 posts) -

There is JRPGs games on this generation (PS3, x360, wii ect) but quality isn't the same as PS2 era. Maybe there is rebirth going on... I hope...

#11 Posted by AndyPhifer (169 posts) -

Just for clarity, can you provide a reference to your claim that giantbomb.com has declared jrpgs dead?
#12 Posted by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -
@FreakAche said:
" Lost Odyssey was garbage. "
Says your avatar.
#13 Posted by FreakAche (2954 posts) -
@Aus_azn said:
" @FreakAche said:
" Lost Odyssey was garbage. "
Says your avatar. "
I don't know, Kotick might be into Lost Odyssey.
#14 Posted by Lautaro (448 posts) -
@AndyPhifer said: 

" Just for clarity, can you provide a reference to your claim that giantbomb.com has declared jrpgs dead? "

On the podcast mainly is where they talk about it. 
#15 Posted by Pessh (2459 posts) -

Persona
Final Fantasy
Eternal Sonata 
Resonance of Fate
Tales series
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#16 Posted by FireBurger (1479 posts) -
#17 Posted by animateria (3253 posts) -

I don't remember when GB as an entity (or a lot of it's members, whatever) said JRPGs are dead. 
 
When did this happen?

#18 Posted by Clinkz (1118 posts) -
@FreakAche said:
" Lost Odyssey was garbage. "
It pains to say that it kinda was garbage. I beat it top to bottom 1000 achievements points but the combat was stale and the story sucked. The only jrpgs that i've enjoyed this gen (and I've played almost all of them) are the mario rpgs. But those games have always been amazing and sort of westernized.
#19 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

Persona 3 / Persona 3: Portable and 4 need to be played, last gen but so what. Best JRPGs in a long time I think, Atlus are probably the best developer of them now. 
 
Looking forward to 5!

#20 Edited by Lautaro (448 posts) -

Apart from P4 and them not hating Recettear can someone name a JRPG that the staff liked (recently) ? 

#21 Posted by skrutop (3615 posts) -

I got Golden Sun: Dark Dawn for Christmas, and I'm really looking forward to it (once I beat FF3).

#22 Posted by SteamPunkJin (1286 posts) -

Resonance of Fate is goddamn brilliant - I don't think I've ever loved a JRPG combat system more.

#23 Edited by Spoonman671 (4701 posts) -

Well Demon's Souls was developed in Japan, but it's really not a JRPG.

#24 Posted by TooWalrus (13237 posts) -

I wouldn't argue with that. They'll be back though. Fighting games were dead for awhile too, so were point & click adventure games.

#25 Posted by mazik765 (2315 posts) -

As someone who is kind of indifferent to JRPG's, Eternal Sonata was probably the best one I've played in a while, and does a great job of creating a really interesting world and combining that with the music of Chopin. Lost Odyssey was pretty good too. Those are the only 2 in the current gen that I have played and enjoyed at all though.

#26 Posted by DrGeneDangoMD (7 posts) -

Giantbomb is knowledgeable about what they are interested in. Past that they let their personal opinion color what actually is happening. Hate to say it but it's true.

#27 Posted by InfiniteStateMachine (215 posts) -

VAlkyria Chronicles.  
 
The thing is I havent been playing ANY RPG's, it's not a JRPG thing.  
 
 
Basically when I play an RPG I want to know that I'll have enough time to finish it. Working full time and going to school full time prevents me from being able to enjoy RPG's

#28 Posted by Butano (1746 posts) -

Only played 4 of em that I can think of for this current generation.
Eternal Sonata 
FFXIII 
Lost Odyssey 
Blue Dragon 
 
Note: I haven't beaten any of em.

#29 Posted by SuperfluousMoniker (2910 posts) -

It's always been a niche genre in the US, Final Fantasy's inexplicable mass appeal notwithstanding. From a pure sales perspective, were they ever really alive?

#30 Posted by GioSpy (99 posts) -

I thought Eternal Sonata was alright but... Let's just say the ending is... well... not good.

#31 Posted by Deeveeus (479 posts) -
@somejerk said:
"  Valkyria Chronicles (kinda), Resonance of Fate, Vesperia.   JRPGs are dead, undergoing rebirth.  Publishers have no faith.  It's up to J-Indie.  Have faith. "
I don't think you can call Valkyria Chronicles JRPG at all, it has an anime styling, but it's a turn based strategy game...fucking awesome game though
#32 Posted by Animasta (14713 posts) -
@Butano said:
" Only played 4 of em that I can think of for this current generation.Eternal Sonata FFXIII Lost Odyssey Blue Dragon  Note: I haven't beaten any of em. "
yeah, and you picked some of the worse ones
 
go pick up resonance of fate
#33 Posted by imsh_pl (3298 posts) -

Hmm...
 
Valkyria Chronicles maybe?
 
Also there are many great jrpgs on the handhelds. But yeah, the stationary consoles seem to be lacking a bit in that regard.

#34 Posted by Deeveeus (479 posts) -
@SteamPunkJin said:
" Resonance of Fate is goddamn brilliant - I don't think I've ever loved a JRPG combat system more. "
Like Valkryia Chronicles, isn't this a strategy? (Never played, but I am interested in that one) 
 
So maybe I should ask...when people say JRPG, do they mean the traditional FF4 and 6 style game, the grinding and turn based battle? Or just developed in Japan RPGs?
#35 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4827 posts) -

Blue Dragon was an overlooked masterpiece. Very reminiscent of older JRPGs with a strong original FF vibe. 
 
FFXIII was superb, don't listen to the haters. I'm 5 hours into Resonance of Fate and it seems fantastic. 
 
But then Eternal Sonata and Lost Odyssey were shite. I think the ratio of good to bad JRPGs is similar to last gen.

#36 Posted by crusader8463 (14423 posts) -

They are just people. There word isn't the word of god that needs to be put in stone for all to agree with for all time. If you like them you like them. It's always been a niche market.

#37 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

Wait, what? They're not really dead. JRPGs are doing very well in Japan, and we're still getting a lot of high quality ones. However, JRPG hate is more pronounced than in previous years, so I guess that's where it's coming from?

#38 Posted by TheGremp (2064 posts) -
#39 Posted by audiosnag (1604 posts) -

And anime is for JERKS.
 
Lost Odyssey was pretty rad.

#40 Posted by BirdkeeperDan (400 posts) -

The guy just wants to know what to play. I would say the next game he should play is definitely Tales of Vesperia.
 
Wrt to JRPGs in general; If they just implement a Oblivion's quest, map, and skill systems but keep most else the same I see a much brighter future for these games.

#41 Posted by Undeadpool (4960 posts) -

I've got news for those who think the GB guys are talking out of their asses: So have a lot of Japanese developers. There's a civil war (whose side are you on?!) going on right now seemingly between publishers and developers in Japan about modernizing their gameplay. 
So while I wouldn't say the JRPG is dead, it's clearly dying and in desperate need of a rebirth. They need to start trying something new rather than resting on their laurels, and I mean in a BIG way, not with a couple of games that sort of depart from the tried and true formula.

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#42 Edited by mutha3 (4986 posts) -
@Lautaro said:

" Apart from P4 and them not hating Recettear can someone name a JRPG that the staff liked (recently) ?  "

They don't have very broad sensibilites when it comes to games.
 
And as I have said countless times in other threads: JRPG are doing better now then 10 years ago.
#43 Edited by DrGeneDangoMD (7 posts) -

But they don't like it and have heard a couple times something is going on, so it must be dead. Same for pc gaming and rts games. These guys are smart when they talk about what they like, less so when they try to talk about anything else.

#44 Edited by xyzygy (10032 posts) -

Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata, FFXIII, and Versus is coming up this or next year... it seems like one every year or so we get a really, really good one. 2008 was good. While I do enjoy the RPGs that still come out. Playing through Nier now, having a great time.

#45 Posted by Hailinel (25179 posts) -

Nier is fun, Dragon Quest IX is awesome, genre ain't dead.

#46 Posted by Jeust (10758 posts) -

Nier

#47 Posted by Icemael (6342 posts) -
@TooWalrus said:
" I wouldn't argue with that. They'll be back though. Fighting games were dead for awhile too, so were point & click adventure games. "
Fighting games weren't especially popular in the period between Street Fighter II and all its updates and Street Fighter IV, but they were certainly never dead (though it may seem that way to people who don't care about fighting games other than Street Fighter II and Street Fighter IV -- that is to say, most people).
#48 Posted by TooWalrus (13237 posts) -
@Icemael said:
" @TooWalrus said:
" I wouldn't argue with that. They'll be back though. Fighting games were dead for awhile too, so were point & click adventure games. "
Fighting games weren't especially popular in the period between Street Fighter II and all its updates and Street Fighter IV, but they were certainly never dead (though it may seem that way to people who don't care about fighting games other than Street Fighter II and Street Fighter IV -- that is to say, most people). "
Maybe it was just me, but I didn't think any of the 3D PS2 Mortal Kombat games lived up to their predecessors, nor did the other fighting games I used to play, Tekken or Soul Calibur. I know there are more fighting games than just those four franchises, but I really wasn't into them, so yeah, probably was just me. Fighting games may not have been dead, but they certainly weren't thriving.
#49 Posted by Icemael (6342 posts) -
@TooWalrus: Yeah, there are plenty more series than that. Virtua Fighter, The King of Fighters, Guilty Gear, Arcana Heart et cetera.
#50 Posted by shadykx125 (41 posts) -

To touch on a few things: 
 
The giantbomb guys have mentioned a few times in podcasts that they think that jrpgs are dead or dying. Also i realize that they are just stating their opinions and these games are not their style, but it seems to me that they make a good point. 
 
Good point to the ppl who brought up portable games, I have in fact played a few good 1s on portables lately. 
 
By jrpg I mean japanese style rpg, not limited to ff6 style or turn based, but yea thats the idea. 
 
Anyways thanks to the people had constructive things to say, im gonna check out a few of those recommendations. 
 
Im curious as to why lost odyssey gets so much flack? It definately didnt do anything revolutionary but I thought it was a solid game with likeable characters and a decent story.