Despite playing games for almost 20 years now I was never even remotely into the Arcade scene and I have never played a Street Fighter game before. Really the only fighting games I have ever played are Soul Calibur and Smash Bros. However, I am very intrigued by all the hype surrounding SF4 and I am very tempted to buy it.
I have heard the game is very very difficult though. If you don't even know what that move Jeff mentioned in his video review, Howdok or something, even is let alone have idea how to do it is there any point in getting this game.
Street Fighter IV...should noobs even bother?
"McPlated said:No it's considered a fighting game because in it, you are FIGHTING. You can't pick and choose what games belong in a genre just because you personally think it isn't worth the title. Is the game primarily about fighting? Then it's a fighting game. Is the game primarily about racing? Then it's a racing game. Is the game primarily about going through obstacle course-like stages to reach your goal? Then it's a platformer. Is it Noby Noby Boy? Then your guess is as good as mine."Smash Bros is really considered a fighting game now?No, its only considered a fighting game to those who are wrong by saying its a fighting game.These days arn't like the old days..."
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Besides, Smash Bros has as deep of a, if not a deeper, fighting system as street fighter. Just because the moves don't require retarded overly-complex and awkward D-pad movements to execute doesn't suddenly mean it's a lesser game. So many fighting game elitists are just too snooty about it and stuck up their own ass to recognize it. There's a reason it's played in tournaments.
"pause422 said:Yeah... no Smash Bros really isn't a fighting game. Over-complex and awkward D-pad movements is what makes a fighting game. I want to feel the rage because I didn't hit the right combo, it makes winning so much fun."McPlated said:No it's considered a fighting game because in it, you are FIGHTING. You can't pick and choose what games belong in a genre just because you personally think it isn't worth the title. Is the game primarily about fighting? Then it's a fighting game. Is the game primarily about racing? Then it's a racing game. Is the game primarily about going through obstacle course-like stages to reach your goal? Then it's a platformer. Is it Noby Noby Boy? Then your guess is as good as mine."Smash Bros is really considered a fighting game now?No, its only considered a fighting game to those who are wrong by saying its a fighting game.These days arn't like the old days..."
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Besides, Smash Bros has as deep of a, if not a deeper, fighting system as street fighter. Just because the moves don't require retarded overly-complex and awkward D-pad movements to execute doesn't suddenly mean it's a lesser game. So many fighting game elitists are just too snooty about it and stuck up their own ass to recognize it. There's a reason it's played in tournaments.
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"Shadow said:I...can't figure out....are you being sarchastic? I mean it would be insanely stupid for that to be the legitimate opinion of anyone, but I can totally see a 2D fighting traditionalist making that argument"pause422 said:Yeah... no Smash Bros really isn't a fighting game. Over-complex and awkward D-pad movements is what makes a fighting game. I want to feel the rage because I didn't hit the right combo, it makes winning so much fun."McPlated said:No it's considered a fighting game because in it, you are FIGHTING. You can't pick and choose what games belong in a genre just because you personally think it isn't worth the title. Is the game primarily about fighting? Then it's a fighting game. Is the game primarily about racing? Then it's a racing game. Is the game primarily about going through obstacle course-like stages to reach your goal? Then it's a platformer. Is it Noby Noby Boy? Then your guess is as good as mine."Smash Bros is really considered a fighting game now?No, its only considered a fighting game to those who are wrong by saying its a fighting game.These days arn't like the old days..."
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Besides, Smash Bros has as deep of a, if not a deeper, fighting system as street fighter. Just because the moves don't require retarded overly-complex and awkward D-pad movements to execute doesn't suddenly mean it's a lesser game. So many fighting game elitists are just too snooty about it and stuck up their own ass to recognize it. There's a reason it's played in tournaments.
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"Besides, Smash Bros has as deep of a, if not a deeper, fighting system as street fighter. Just because the moves don't require retarded overly-complex and awkward D-pad movements to execute doesn't suddenly mean it's a lesser game. So many fighting game elitists are just too snooty about it and stuck up their own ass to recognize it. There's a reason it's played in tournaments.You have to be kidding me.
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"Shazam said:"Shadow said:I...can't figure out....are you being sarchastic? I mean it would be insanely stupid for that to be the legitimate opinion of anyone, but I can totally see a 2D fighting traditionalist making that argument"pause422 said:Yeah... no Smash Bros really isn't a fighting game. Over-complex and awkward D-pad movements is what makes a fighting game. I want to feel the rage because I didn't hit the right combo, it makes winning so much fun."McPlated said:No it's considered a fighting game because in it, you are FIGHTING. You can't pick and choose what games belong in a genre just because you personally think it isn't worth the title. Is the game primarily about fighting? Then it's a fighting game. Is the game primarily about racing? Then it's a racing game. Is the game primarily about going through obstacle course-like stages to reach your goal? Then it's a platformer. Is it Noby Noby Boy? Then your guess is as good as mine."Smash Bros is really considered a fighting game now?No, its only considered a fighting game to those who are wrong by saying its a fighting game.These days arn't like the old days..."
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Besides, Smash Bros has as deep of a, if not a deeper, fighting system as street fighter. Just because the moves don't require retarded overly-complex and awkward D-pad movements to execute doesn't suddenly mean it's a lesser game. So many fighting game elitists are just too snooty about it and stuck up their own ass to recognize it. There's a reason it's played in tournaments.
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Smash Bros really isn't a deeper fighting system, are you kidding me?It would have to actually be considered a fighting game but more importantly, Smash Bros is about spamming your characters special attack by pressing one button. Rinse, repeat. Hope you beat your opponent. Fun but not a challenge. Which is fine, if you don't want to be challenged. Just don't ridicule other people for wanting more out of their fighting games.
Also I wasn't being "sarchastic" nor was I being sarcastic. I was telling the truth.
"Shadow said:"Shazam said:"Shadow said:I...can't figure out....are you being sarchastic? I mean it would be insanely stupid for that to be the legitimate opinion of anyone, but I can totally see a 2D fighting traditionalist making that argument"pause422 said:Yeah... no Smash Bros really isn't a fighting game. Over-complex and awkward D-pad movements is what makes a fighting game. I want to feel the rage because I didn't hit the right combo, it makes winning so much fun."McPlated said:No it's considered a fighting game because in it, you are FIGHTING. You can't pick and choose what games belong in a genre just because you personally think it isn't worth the title. Is the game primarily about fighting? Then it's a fighting game. Is the game primarily about racing? Then it's a racing game. Is the game primarily about going through obstacle course-like stages to reach your goal? Then it's a platformer. Is it Noby Noby Boy? Then your guess is as good as mine."Smash Bros is really considered a fighting game now?No, its only considered a fighting game to those who are wrong by saying its a fighting game.These days arn't like the old days..."
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Besides, Smash Bros has as deep of a, if not a deeper, fighting system as street fighter. Just because the moves don't require retarded overly-complex and awkward D-pad movements to execute doesn't suddenly mean it's a lesser game. So many fighting game elitists are just too snooty about it and stuck up their own ass to recognize it. There's a reason it's played in tournaments.
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Smash Bros really isn't a deeper fighting system, are you kidding me?It would have to actually be considered a fighting game but more importantly, Smash Bros is about spamming your characters special attack by pressing one button. Rinse, repeat. Hope you beat your opponent. Fun but not a challenge. Which is fine, if you don't want to be challenged. Just don't ridicule other people for wanting more out of their fighting games.
Also I wasn't being "sarchastic" nor was I being sarcastic. I was telling the truth.
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First, have you even played Brawl in anything but single player? Sure you can get 4 people together, put all items to high, and just hope you're lucky enough to come out on top amidst the insanity. But getting in a 1 vs 1 fight against anyone items or not, there is a huge amount of skill involved.
Second, have you tried playing SF4 online? All the game amounts to most of the time, is jerks just spamming fireball over and over again. Only instead of pressing one button, they make an awkward movement with their controller and THEN press one button over and over again.
Why is that any better? Originally, Street Fighter relied on those controls because they didn't have enough buttons to work with on older controllers. Now, that's all the game relies upon. If they were to make moves easy to do like they very easily could these days when controllers have four shoulder buttons, four face buttons, two analog sticks and a D-pad, and you basically have Smash Bros...but with no items, one on one only, nothing but flat stages, increased gravity, and no Nintendo characters.
Well whatever, to each their own. I recognize that despite the fact that I can't stand playing the game, Street Fighter is still a deep fighting system for what it is. I'm just sick of people claiming that just because the controls aren't a pain in the ass for new people to use, that suddenly makes a fighting game worse. I mean what kind of backwards bullshit is that? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
"Smash Bros is about spamming your characters special attack by pressing one button. Rinse, repeat. Hope you beat your opponent."I don't know about you man, but most people I play don't play like that, and if they do they generally get brutally curbstomped into the ground.
I think Smash is a fighting game, but I don't view it as a traditional one.....to me it's a party/fighting game. I don't know about it having as much depth as Street Fighter, but it's not as simplistic as mashing one button (because you'd lose every single time playing that way).
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