Tactics Ogre: LUCT, FF Tactics, or FFT War of the Lion?

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#1  Edited By Gladiator_Games

Help me out! I cant decide which to get! :(

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#2  Edited By Video_Game_King

Final Fantasy Tactics and War of the Lion are pretty much the same game, and they both rip from Let Us Cling Together. So get the last two.

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#3  Edited By casper_

tactics ogre but get some disgaea games at some point too they are probably cheap as fuck

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#4  Edited By Hailinel

@Video_Game_King said:

Final Fantasy Tactics and War of the Lion are pretty much the same game, and they both rip from Let Us Cling Together. So get the last two.

They aren't "pretty much" the same game, they are the same game. The only difference is that War of the Lions has a vastly improved translation and some extra content. There's literally no reason to get the original version of FFT if War of the Lions is available.

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#5  Edited By Gladiator_Games

Sounds like it might be Tactics Ogre then!

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#6  Edited By MikeGosot

Tactics Ogre. Everyday. All day.

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#7  Edited By mosespippy

Jeanne D'Arc

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#8  Edited By MiniPato

Haven't played too much of War of the Lions. But I've been playing Tactics Ogre: LUCT. Been loving the gameplay and writing.

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#9  Edited By AndrewB

Don't choose. Get both! They're both really good. But if you chose Tactics Ogre, you made a good choice.

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#10  Edited By Phatmac

Tactics Advanced!

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#11  Edited By AltonBrown

Dude, Tactics Ogre.

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#12  Edited By EthanielRain

Tactics Ogre is my choice, all the way.

@mosespippy said:

Jeanne D'Arc

But you really can't go wrong with this or FFT either. All solid, there's no bad choice here :)

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#13  Edited By Hailinel

@mosespippy said:

Jeanne D'Arc

I really wanted to like that game, but it burned me out when I had to spend way to much time fighting that asshole Talbot.

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#14  Edited By Towers

@mosespippy said:

Jeanne D'Arc

This. I love FFT but Jeanne D'Arc was an awesome experience.

Still haven't got my hands on LUCT. :(

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#15  Edited By StarvingGamer

FFT is basically Tactics Ogre with significantly improved design. If you plan on playing both, play Tactics Ogre first because going in the other direction is going to be really hard. If you're only getting one, get FFT.

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#16  Edited By Marz

Can't go wrong with either game, Tactics Ogre remake is the more recent game(and older game of the two). FF Tactics is still one of my favorite games and story though.

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#17  Edited By CJduke

Disgaea!

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#18  Edited By Slay3r1583

Disgaea 1 or 2

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#19  Edited By coakroach

Both are heavy time investments, but Tactics Ogre has the superior story so i'd go with that.

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#20  Edited By lead_farmer

@Gladiator_Games said:

Sounds like it might be Tactics Ogre then!

Good call. Such a great game.

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#21  Edited By QuistisTrepe

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

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#22  Edited By Adaurin

Hey, if you like Rock, Paper, Scissors: KARTIA. It's like they turned the Alex Kidd boss battles into a Strategy RPG.

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#23  Edited By viking_funeral
@QuistisTrepe

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

Terrible? Not the same game, maybe, but terrible is a strong choice of words.
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#24  Edited By Turambar

I'm not the biggest fan of LUCT's character leveling structure, but its still a pretty great game.

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#25  Edited By Turambar
@Paul_Is_Drunk said:
@QuistisTrepe

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

Terrible? Not the same game, maybe, but terrible is a strong choice of words.
Let's not mince words here.  "Terrible" is the exact opposite of the proper adjective for the game.
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#26  Edited By QuistisTrepe

@Hailinel said:

@mosespippy said:

Jeanne D'Arc

I really wanted to like that game, but it burned me out when I had to spend way to much time fighting that asshole Talbot.

It had potential, but the game lacked anything resembling an actual challenge.

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@QuistisTrepe

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

Terrible? Not the same game, maybe, but terrible is a strong choice of words.

I played through the game wondering why the gameplay was trapped in the same era where it was originally released. Locking up the class skills the way they did was absurd. It took the strategy out of the concept of a strategy game. Item creation felt tacked on and the battle spam at the last area was ridiculous. A 10-part battle of normal encounters isn't epic, it's a waste of time.

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#27  Edited By StarvingGamer

@QuistisTrepe said:

@Paul_Is_Drunk said:

@QuistisTrepe

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

Terrible? Not the same game, maybe, but terrible is a strong choice of words.

I played through the game wondering why the gameplay was trapped in the same era where it was originally released. Locking up the class skills the way they did was absurd. It took the strategy out of the concept of a strategy game. Item creation felt tacked on and the battle spam at the last area was ridiculous. A 10-part battle of normal encounters isn't epic, it's a waste of time.

I have the same general complaints about it that you do, but I think it'ss still one of the better games of that type out there. But yeah, FFT is definitely a superior experience in every regard.

EDIT: Also your avatar is a big letdown after reading your username.

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#28  Edited By DocHaus

That's a funny way of spelling "Yggdra Union" everybody.

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#29  Edited By Giefcookie

Tactics Ogre removes some of the annoyances I have with the genre, namely getting xp/ability points/ whatever character progress only on the character that delivers the killing blow.

Between FF Tactics WotL and Tactics Ogre I'd go with TO. Its in my opinion still the most advanced Tactical RPG to date. And its dirt cheap.

If you like / don't mind the anime style, you should also look into Disgaea (3 or 4) just because of the craziness.

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#30  Edited By vonFlampanker

Currently playing through Tactics Ogre and it's good. What's more there's a lot of it. Some medium level annoyances including the fact that it's sometimes hard to get new units up to speed since you level the jobs, not the units. Want your level 14 Warrior to switch to Dragoon? Back to 1 he goes. Unless I'm missing something important, that's a major headache.

FFT is good (I forget if it has the "killing blow unit gets the XP" thing). Whoever suggested Jeanne D'Arc is correct as well. That's a very enjoyable game.

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#31  Edited By ArbitraryWater

Both are lengthy SRPGs that gain their length through you being unable to speed up animations, and in the case of FFT, obligatory grinding. Also they were made by the same team only a few years apart. That being said, the PSP remake of Tactics Ogre is incredibly solid, for whatever faults I may have with it. The PSP port of FFT has some nasty slowdown during the (unskippable) spell animations. Also it's hella grindy.

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#32  Edited By Canteu

War of the Lion is the same game as Tactics.

So get Disgaea 2 instead.

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#33  Edited By D_W
Vandal Hearts 2. FFT doesn't really have much strategy involved other than grinding out levels.
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#34  Edited By Slag

@StarvingGamer said:

FFT is basically Tactics Ogre with significantly improved design. If you plan on playing both, play Tactics Ogre first because going in the other direction is going to be really hard. If you're only getting one, get FFT.

This