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#1 Edited by Athadam (673 posts) -

I took this off of Will's reply from this thread here: http://www.tested.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/43269-please-everyone-take-a-breath/?p=28

I thought it would be interesting to share with you guys and it could shed some light on the situation with Giant Bomb.

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"It's not about money, it's about opportunity. I shouldn't share this, but my money situation hasn't changed at all. Neither has Norm's. We were compensated very fairly for our work at Whiskey, but we didn't get paid off, bought out, or anything like that. We aren't property of Whiskey Media, and we don't have contracts that require us to go along with whatever the company line is. We are going along with us because it is literally the OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME.

The thing that's changed is that we get to work closely with two very, very smart guys who are successful in multiple fields. We have the opportunity to spend time with them and learn from them. The prospect of this is something I am THRILLED about. It should be a great thing for the site. For dudes who are into science and technology and really wild stuff, we're working with the equivalents in their industries of Mick Jagger or Meryl Streep. Jamie and Adam aren't just TV personalities. They build amazing things, and have built careers that let them do whatever they want. Seriously, go look at their wikipedia pages." - Will

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To me it seems like Tested and Giantbomb are quite happy with their current situation, no matter what we may think. We don't know any of the background facts yet and most of our fears and worries stem from pure speculation. The recent events may be what both websites really needed to flourish and expand their horizons.

#2 Posted by Ketchupp (672 posts) -

That's cool. I was a little worried at first.

#3 Posted by Daiphyer (1308 posts) -

I don't like how they just put the pictures of Jamie and Adam on top of Tested. It's not their site.

#4 Posted by allworkandlowpay (874 posts) -

That's only assuming Jamie and Adam's company won't just use Will and Norm until they are done with them and then toss them away like wadded tissues.

They don't care about them, they aren't under their tutelage, they are nothing more than webmasters to them.

#5 Posted by Athadam (673 posts) -

@Daiphyer said:

I don't like how they just put the pictures of Jamie and Adam on top of Tested. It's not their site.

He also addressed this on that thread, it's kind of lengthy so I'll summarize it here. Basically Jamie and Adam are going on a Mythbuster tour right now and are reaching out to many fans. They're also promoting Tested as their new home.

Obviously this is going to attract a lot of fan based readership to Tested, which is good.

In time, you should be seeing their face on the front page more including their old tweet box.

#6 Posted by Marokai (2805 posts) -

More power to you if you can spin, or accept the spin, on that situation. It's pretty glaringly obvious that Will and Norm are secondary characters now on what used to be their own site, and probably won't last there for very long. If they're still employed at Tested a year or two from now, I'll happily eat my words.

#7 Posted by Athadam (673 posts) -

A lot of us are pissed because in the video, Jamie and Adam made it seem as if it was "their" new site. But Will addressed this too, saying it was because they were short on time and he had to write the script really fast.

Basically we are reading into it too much.

Well, whatever happens - I just hope for the best.

#8 Posted by Daiphyer (1308 posts) -

@Castermhief117 said:

A lot of us are pissed because in the video, Jamie and Adam made it seem as if it was "their" new site. But Will addressed this too, saying it was because they were short on time and he had to write the script really fast.

Basically we are reading into it too much.

Well, whatever happens - I just hope for the best.

I highly doubt it. Even the logo says Jamie and Adam Tested. They are thinking "Fuck we bought this site this is ours!"

And "We were really short on time so we wrote that it's Jamie and Adam's website" is a really weak excuse. Give a single minute and I'll write a sentence -- no no, give me thirty seconds and I'll write a sentence that says hey we -Jamie and Adam- are now a PART of Tested and we'll be working with Will and Norm to cover the things we like.

#9 Posted by HistoryInRust (6274 posts) -

Nah. That's just a savvy PR move.  

#10 Edited by soralapio (261 posts) -

I think we all hope for the best because we want to see Norm & Will do as well as possible, but it just kind of sounds ... worrying. When Will's talking about how he "hopes" they can sit down with Jamie and Adam to do a podcast or a video where they address the community but that it might not happen because those guys are so busy, it just makes me think that this isn't REALLY Jamie and Adam's website. This is a website that was bought for them, branded with their faces and used to promote their stuff and not really any kind of a priority. Which, of course, is natural: those guys are TV stars and have bigger things to worry about than content for a website, but that website happened to be the site we read and loved for years.

And if that causes Will and Norm to get shunted into the shadows, fuck everything.

#11 Posted by JayDee (439 posts) -

@Daiphyer said:

@Castermhief117 said:

A lot of us are pissed because in the video, Jamie and Adam made it seem as if it was "their" new site. But Will addressed this too, saying it was because they were short on time and he had to write the script really fast.

Basically we are reading into it too much.

Well, whatever happens - I just hope for the best.

I highly doubt it. Even the logo says Jamie and Adam Tested. They are thinking "Fuck we bought this site this is ours!"

And "We were really short on time so we wrote that it's Jamie and Adam's website" is a really weak excuse. Give a single minute and I'll write a sentence -- no no, give me thirty seconds and I'll write a sentence that says hey we -Jamie and Adam- are now a PART of Tested and we'll be working with Will and Norm to cover the things we like.

he said that will had them say that, so the new people who are coming in who only know jamie and adam stay and become fans. it makes perfect sense.

#12 Posted by BisonHero (6169 posts) -

@allworkandlowpay said:

That's only assuming Jamie and Adam's company won't just use Will and Norm until they are done with them and then toss them away like wadded tissues.

But what if they don't toss Will and Norm away? WHAT IF WILL AND NORM END UP ON MYTHBUSTERS. Think, man! Think!

#13 Posted by Patman99 (1558 posts) -

I feel like people need to chill out. I mean, yeah it was a big change for all of us but just deal with it. It's literally been like 3 or 4 days since we first found out and nothing really substantial has happened apart from the new Tested design and even that wasn't that bad.

Just ride out the current barrage of change and I am sure it will be back to a relatively normal state in a couple of weeks. Making numerous threads about how this is the doom of humanity does not help the situation. Rather, it just creates anxiety in people that would not normally be as anxious or worried. (not saying that this thread did this but most of the new posts on the forums of all the sites have generally been doomsday posts)

Keep Calm and Carry On.

#14 Edited by Ragdrazi (2283 posts) -
@Patman99 said:

I feel like people need to chill out. I mean, yeah it was a big change for all of us but just deal with it. It's literally been like 3 or 4 days since we first found out and nothing really substantial has happened apart from the new Tested design and even that wasn't that bad.

Just ride out the current barrage of change and I am sure it will be back to a relatively normal state in a couple of weeks. Making numerous threads about how this is the doom of humanity does not help the situation. Rather, it just creates anxiety in people that would not normally be as anxious or worried. (not saying that this thread did this but most of the new posts on the forums of all the sites have generally been doomsday posts)

Keep Calm and Carry On.

Of course nothing's going to happen that quickly. And the changes that are going to be made aren't going to happen quickly at all.
 
But Jamie and Adam's Tested is just the first little scratch. Look at that front page. That's not bad? What's bad then? That's no longer Will and Norm's site. Is that really going to be the new logo from now on?
 
If we are supposed to be reassured that CBS hasn't just strangled the magic from Whiskey, this was a terrible first misstep.
#15 Posted by Mirado (990 posts) -

They may be genuinely happy, but even if they weren't what would they say? "This is a fucking nightmare and you should go and bomb the forums with midget porn while the mod tools are still broken?" Of course not.

#16 Edited by PillClinton (3290 posts) -

I PRAY the podcast doesn't get fucked up. That's the thing from Tested for me.

Also, yeah, @Mirado: people just eating up what Will's saying without questioning it in the slightest need to understand he's very likely contractually obligated to not fully speak his mind regarding this change.

#17 Posted by MB (11971 posts) -

I don't think people are reading too much into the video and home page redesign of Tested too much at all. I mean look, Will and Norm can say whatever they want and I think they are a couple of very trustworthy dudes, but what Will is saying and what I'm seeing doesn't exactly match up. It seems more like PR and less like "tell it like it is" to me.

I hate to say it, but I agree with

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#18 Posted by Vodun (2370 posts) -

@Marokai said:

More power to you if you can spin, or accept the spin, on that situation. It's pretty glaringly obvious that Will and Norm are secondary characters now on what used to be their own site, and probably won't last there for very long. If they're still employed at Tested a year or two from now, I'll happily eat my words.

What would be the point of buying an existing site and its crew, when your plan is only to have your own site in the end? Why not just start up something with your own people in that case? They obviously see some worth in Will and Norm otherwise getting all this baggage is nothing but negatives.

Also, look at the amount of unfounded whining that's being done...imagine if shit actually was real. Nothing but bad will for their site in that case.

#19 Posted by N7 (3573 posts) -

With all of the money the Mythbusters have, it is absolutely bewildering to me that some people think they were so incapable of creating their own website they had to steal a website from someone else, then launch an overthrowing conspiracy to get rid of the old people.
 
I am at a loss for words.

#20 Posted by YoThatLimp (1880 posts) -

@Daiphyer said:

I don't like how they just put the pictures of Jamie and Adam on top of Tested. It's not their site.

I think that is kind of my issue. I am really happy and excited for this new partnership with Tested for Will and Norm, but when the redesign came today and it was just the Mythbusters on the header? Really rubbed me the wrong way. Even my wife who couldn't care less about Tested thought that kind of sucked.

Will and Norm can't be suprised by this reaction, they have cultivated a ton of love and good will from users, now in the span of 2 days the site has totally changed and the front page and intro video are dedicated to two people that we don't associate with Tested.

#21 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7613 posts) -

I think they're genuinely happy, working with the Mythbusters is a huge deal for them.. but they've lost their site in the process.

Yes, they're saying everything will continue as normal, but just how long will that last? I find it hard to believe that the higher ups will allow them to keep acting like they normally do and swear all the time, etc, considering how family friendly Mythbusters tends to be. It may happen slowly, but it'll happen and if Will and Norm aren't eventually asked to leave, I see them just becoming disillusioned with the new direction and they'll want to go back to running their own site independently. It's no longer about them or what they want to do. They can sugar coat this all they want, but I seriously don't see them being around by this time next year.

#22 Edited by LegendaryChopChop (1171 posts) -

I don't care what they spin it as. TechTV and G4 was the same way. Within a year, G4 utterly dismantled everything great about TechTV. Will and Norm can rationalize it all they want, they got hornswoggled in my view.

I fear that the same will happen to Screened, Anime Vice, and Tested. Seeing "Adam and Jamie's Tested" is horrible to me.

I'm not going out on a limb to say that soon I would be surprised if Will and Norm even do content for the site anymore, maybe 6 months or so, but they will likely be just reduced to writers.

Seems to me that Will and Norm were just starstruck by the idea of working with them. I doubt they end up doing much together at all. I can't see the future of Tested lasting like it was before, I just can't. It isn't Whiskey anymore.

I trust this Giant Bomb move, but nothing sits well to me about the Tested one.

WinterSnowblind, you're correct in my opinion. They are not seeing the bigger picture here, they can say it'll stay as it is, but I can't see that happening long term. A lot of the supporters of this merge are just like "OMG JAMIE AND ADAM!! I LOVE MYTHBUSTERS!! EXPLOSIONS!!", they aren't getting the bigger picture of the ordeal. Their site was stolen.

#23 Edited by MB (11971 posts) -

@LegendaryChopChop said:

Seems to me that Will and Norm were just starstruck by the idea of working with them. I doubt they end up doing much together at all. I can't see the future of Tested lasting like it was before, I just can't. It isn't Whiskey anymore.

I'm not sure if I think Will & Norm were legitimately starstruck by the Mythbusters dudes or if they're just acting excited because they are trying to protect their jobs and that is what they were expected to do.

Tested was Will & Norm's baby. I just don't see how they could have a positive reaction after seeing what the new site looked like, watching the announcement video starring Adam and Jamie, and then reading the reactions from their userbase. If I was Will or Norm I think I'd want to cry right now, I really feel for those dudes.

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#24 Edited by Grimluck343 (1148 posts) -

@LegendaryChopChop said:

A lot of the supporters of this merge are just like "OMG JAMIE AND ADAM!! I LOVE MYTHBUSTERS!! EXPLOSIONS!!", they aren't getting the bigger picture of the ordeal. Their site was stolen.

I posted over in the original thread for the announcement video that I didn't understand the orgasmic response to having the Mythbusters on the site. What the fuck does Mythbusters have to do with tech? After seeing the site launch yesterday I suddenly understand where all of this is going.

@allworkandlowpay said:

That's only assuming Jamie and Adam's company won't just use Will and Norm until they are done with them and then toss them away like wadded tissues.

I wonder what happens when Mythbusters eventually gets cancelled.

And seriously, they didn't even get a pay raise out of this shitstorm?

#25 Posted by Legend (2649 posts) -

Sorry, Wil, but I don't buy any of that. I'll still visit Tested from time to time just to see what Will and Norm are up to. It'll always be Will and Norm's Tested to me. :'(

#26 Posted by Benny (1947 posts) -
@MB think about the sort of person that actively dislikes videos like that. I'd guarantee it's a minority.

Why can't you all be happy for them and excited for what's to come? What are you personally gonna lose because the site layout is different? Because that's literally all that's changed about tested thus far and you're acting like Will and Norm were condemned to a life of slavery.

It's fucking childish and I don't doubt for a second the naysayers will regret not supporting Will and Norm from the start. You condemn them already when you haven't even seen what they have to offer.
#27 Posted by Marokai (2805 posts) -
@Vodun: Maybe we'll get lucky and they will still be around, but no one can seriously be kidding themselves so much that they believe everything over there is going to be the same. Will and Norm are going to fade into the background one way or another, there really just isn't any way around it. The more time that passes, the more Tested becomes more and more focused on the Mythbusters dudes than Will and Norm. It's not unrealistic to imagine a very possible future where Will and Norm are relegated very few tasks on the side, essentially playing the assistants to people that never created and labored for the site to begin with.
 
It's one thing to think of Tested right now as so much less about Will and Norm, but imagine a year from now, after people have come to the site knowing it only for the Mythbusters guys, having no connection to what it used to be. Will and Norm's influence can only go down over time.
#28 Posted by forkboy (1115 posts) -

@Marokai: You realise you are saying "Will & Norm, you guys are so dumb, I know what's best for your careers, listen to me instead of yourself despite me not knowing all the details"?

Because thinking you know better than them is pretty arrogant, and when you don't know all the details it's also fucking dumb

#29 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7613 posts) -

@Benny: For the record, I'll still visit the site and continue to support them. I just think things are going to change, get beyond their control and eventually end up for the worse, until the site is totally unrecognisable.

I'll be happy if I turn out to be wrong, but I don't see why it's childish to know how these things work.

#30 Edited by ucankurbaga (171 posts) -

The thing is Will and Norm didn't only sell the site, they also sell their core tested.com fans. They are the community that made site popular. It is very selfish of them to do this quickly like this.

I also think Will & Norm are very dazzled by this new celebrities and not seeing the big picture here. However we, on the outside, see it clear as diamond...

#31 Posted by Marokai (2805 posts) -
@forkboy: I only wish I could think of myself as someone with business advice. My view of the situation over there at Tested was the same way I pretty much view every WM site that isn't Giant Bomb or Comic Vine: They're totally fucked in one way or another, regardless of what they do. Giant Bomb was the WM cash cow and Comic Vine gets a lot of pageviews. There's nothing you can really do with Tested (or Screened, or Anime Vice) without substantially redesigning them and their models, or co-opting them altogether. They simply don't have the weight to defend themselves in any way, and certainly not enough to be independent. 
 
It doesn't change how shitty the current situation is, however. It also doesn't mean that we need to delude ourselves into being all "everything is going to be fine!" when the writing is very clearly all over the wall.
#32 Edited by MB (11971 posts) -

@Marokai said:

It also doesn't mean that we need to delude ourselves into being all "everything is going to be fine!" when the writing is very clearly all over the wall.

Yeah, everything is clearly not going to be fine, or the same, and I don't think things are going to turn out quite as well as Will is saying they will.

I bet there will be next to no interaction or collaboration between the Mythbusters and Tested teams. Sadly, my prediction is that Will and Norm will be relegated to nothing more than staff writer positions and will eventually leave to explore better opportunities, as will most of the existing Tested community.

(As an aside...does anyone think that either Adam or Jamie even know who the hell Will or Norm even are, or that they knew Tested.com was a thing before this whole deal happened? I don't think they've ever even met.)

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#33 Posted by Pezen (1562 posts) -
@Benny : It's not so much condemnation as it is a lack of credit where credit is due. I don't care about the reasons, it comes out off-putting to us who enjoyed tested for these years when two new people come in, it gets rebranded and "introduce" the people who birthed the place as if they never used to be there. Hell, even my wife who couldn't care either way found the whole thing strange and inappropriate.

I just think the switch could have been handled a lot better without shellshocking their existing audience.
#34 Posted by Mirado (990 posts) -

@N7 said:

With all of the money the Mythbusters have, it is absolutely bewildering to me that some people think they were so incapable of creating their own website they had to steal a website from someone else, then launch an overthrowing conspiracy to get rid of the old people. I am at a loss for words.

Money has NOTHING to do with it. Tested was bought up because the company that purchased it wanted WM's production backend, and Tested happened to be the biggest site on it. It fit well with one of the company's other clients who are helping to make a new show....can you guess who that is?

Yep, BernanBraun is working with Adam and Jamie on their new show, Unchained Reaction. That's the whole fucking point behind all of this: they needed their own website that lets them talk about non-Mythbusters related topics and shows, here's a tech site that's running on the platform that we just purchased, so just drag and drop.

Kinda worrying, eh? I'm not saying that W&N are getting tossed out in the street, but that's a bit of a big focus shift, now isn't it?

#35 Posted by AlexanderSheen (4929 posts) -

@Castermhief117 said:

@Daiphyer said:

I don't like how they just put the pictures of Jamie and Adam on top of Tested. It's not their site.

He also addressed this on that thread, it's kind of lengthy so I'll summarize it here. Basically Jamie and Adam are going on a Mythbuster tour right now and are reaching out to many fans. They're also promoting Tested as their new home.

Obviously this is going to attract a lot of fan based readership to Tested, which is good.

In time, you should be seeing their face on the front page more including their old tweet box.

The Mythbuster guys want to attract their fanbase to the site. Ok, that's fine, but I can't see how this is a good reason for not putting Will and Norm on the top of the page right now. I mean, there's plenty room up there for them. Jamie and Adam Tested. The Mythbusters already got their pictures up, so why the naming? The fans know how they look like, so no need for differentiation.

What I'm saying is: this is bullshit.

#36 Posted by Zzzleepy (162 posts) -

I guess people have every right to be cynical when corporations are involved, but still... Jamie and Adam are two very busy dudes, why wouldn't they want two content producing nerds, Will and Norm, to work on the site and then chime in from time to time? I dunno, this may turn to hell but I just don't immiediately see this as a failure for Will and Norm. Meh.

#37 Posted by Benny (1947 posts) -
@WinterSnowblind @Pezen I agree it's almost impossible to see where the site will go from here because of how shocking a reveal it is, but I only mean its childish to accuse them of selling out or being phased out.

Basically upping and leaving without even seeing the stuff they produce as part of this site is just acting like a spoiled brat to me is all. As if no one ever tried something new that people liked. As if change was only ever bad.

Just give it time.
#38 Edited by MB (11971 posts) -

@Pezen said:

@Benny : It's not so much condemnation as it is a lack of credit where credit is due. I don't care about the reasons, it comes out off-putting to us who enjoyed tested for these years when two new people come in, it gets rebranded and "introduce" the people who birthed the place as if they never used to be there. Hell, even my wife who couldn't care either way found the whole thing strange and inappropriate. I just think the switch could have been handled a lot better without shellshocking their existing audience.

Brilliant observation. The way that video was presented was just terrible, I really couldn't believe it. It was like..."Hey, this is Jamie and Adam and we have an awesome new website, we guess! Oh and here are some other dudes who you will see around our website!"

After watching the video, I was left with the impression that a producer shoved a camera in their faces and told them to record something and that was the first they had ever even heard of their "new website." I don't think Jamie and Adam knew what Tested was before their involvement, and I doubt they have any sort of grasp (and probably don't care) about the drastic changes the site and it's users are currently going through.

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#39 Posted by NaDannMaGoGo (338 posts) -

It's certainly weird.

I don't know if Jamie and Adam still do Mythbuster stuff, I don't watch a lot TV anymore and I think that show is seen less and less in Germany. But sounds like that show is still loved so yeh.

What does the Mythbuster show have to do with tested? I get that Jamie and Adam are probably really amazing tech dudes but they aren't going to analyze new devices for this side suddenly, right? What do they even care about tested.com, some additional audience?

#40 Posted by dudeglove (7685 posts) -

lol some of the responses here.

#41 Posted by N7 (3573 posts) -
@Mirado said:

@N7 said:

With all of the money the Mythbusters have, it is absolutely bewildering to me that some people think they were so incapable of creating their own website they had to steal a website from someone else, then launch an overthrowing conspiracy to get rid of the old people. I am at a loss for words.

Money has NOTHING to do with it. Tested was bought up because the company that purchased it wanted WM's production backend, and Tested happened to be the biggest site on it. It fit well with one of the company's other clients who are helping to make a new show....can you guess who that is?

Yep, BernanBraun is working with Adam and Jamie on their new show, Unchained Reaction. That's the whole fucking point behind all of this: they needed their own website that lets them talk about non-Mythbusters related topics and shows, here's a tech site that's running on the platform that we just purchased, so just drag and drop.

Kinda worrying, eh? I'm not saying that W&N are getting tossed out in the street, but that's a bit of a big focus shift, now isn't it?

Well, that is certainly pretty worrying indeed.
 
Now I feel bad for those guys. I mean, yeah, they get to work with two amazing guys, but it sad to think that they may just be tools for the corporate agenda.
#42 Posted by MB (11971 posts) -

@N7 said:

Well, that is certainly pretty worrying indeed. Now I feel bad for those guys. I mean, yeah, they get to work with two amazing guys, but it sad to think that they may just be tools for the corporate agenda.

Who knows, maybe Will and Norm had deals for a certain period of time to remain on as editorial staff as part of of the acquisition. It strikes me as something that Shelby would do - "Hey, I'll sell you my company, but you have to take care of these guys for at least a little while."

I know I'm reaching here and there is nothing to substantiate what I'm saying, but you guys have to admit it's not beyond the realm of possibility. It fits with what BernerBraun does and what we're seeing on Tested now.

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#43 Posted by Mirado (990 posts) -

@MB: That.....that isn't Tested, anymore, then. I don't want to be all "the sky is falling" but even if that is the case, it sounds like they're throwing them a bone. So much for personality driven content. "Hey, you guys can stay on, but you just post some news to fill in the non A&J gaps? Also, tone down the language, we've got 10 year olds coming here."

I could be wrong, though, as we all could be. It sucks to just have to wait and see.

#44 Posted by forkboy (1115 posts) -

@Marokai: Yeah, but why does Tested being redesigned & repurposed have to be a bad thing? Science is good! Well it is to me, certainly more so than "hey, a new mobile phone I'll never own". There's no delusion here, it's simply a case of being open-minded. I like Tested. I like the Mythbusters guys. I like the idea of them working together. Whose faces are the top of the site? Not a big thing to me. And seemingly not big to Will & Norm. Yeah, maybe they are just lying about their enthusiasm to keep their jobs, and maybe I'm the 3rd in line to the throne of Denmark. But as we can't verify that at present lets just assume they aren't lying to us as a basic courtesy, no?

Bottom line, the new site has been live for less than 24 hours. It's still a work-in-progress. Adam & Jamie are out on tour at the moment. Give it time to see how it all comes together before shitting on it. A bit of skepticism is fine, but openly doubting the motives of everyone involved just seems to me a bit much.

#45 Posted by forkboy (1115 posts) -

@MB: Or maybe they (not Adam & Jamie personally, but the management people involved in the deal) went "hey, you guys are an important part of what made the website special & why we want to purchase it. We want you to stay active."

We don't HAVE to look at everything pessimistically. I hate admitting that as I'm a natural pessimist, but I just think the negative spin on all this is past the point of absurdity. Were people really that attached to pixelised Will & Norm?

#46 Posted by Venatio (4482 posts) -

I'll continue to use the site until Norm and Will either get fired or quit

That is all

#47 Posted by MB (11971 posts) -

@forkboy: I like the idea of the Tested guys and the Mythbusters guys "working together" too - but I doubt that's going to be the case.

I mean, let's face it. Jamie and Adam are celebrities and have multiple TV shows, commercials, speaking engagements, endorsement deals, and all kinds of other stuff on their plates. How much involvement are they really going to have in the new Tested...or with Will and Norm?

I wish Will & Norm the best, I'm just too much of a realist for my own good and I'm trying to read between the lines a little.

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#48 Posted by RIDEBIRD (1230 posts) -
#49 Edited by MB (11971 posts) -

@forkboy said:

@MB: Or maybe they (not Adam & Jamie personally, but the management people involved in the deal) went "hey, you guys are an important part of what made the website special & why we want to purchase it. We want you to stay active."

We don't HAVE to look at everything pessimistically. I hate admitting that as I'm a natural pessimist, but I just think the negative spin on all this is past the point of absurdity. Were people really that attached to pixelised Will & Norm?

Yeah, your'e right. That's equally as possible as my theory or any number of others. I just figure that most businesses don't have such altruistic motives when it comes to multi-million dollar investments. Whatever happens, I hope things work out for Will and Norm, those guys are alright.

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#50 Posted by Mirado (990 posts) -

@forkboy said:

@Marokai: Yeah, but why does Tested being redesigned & repurposed have to be a bad thing? Science is good! Well it is to me, certainly more so than "hey, a new mobile phone I'll never own". There's no delusion here, it's simply a case of being open-minded. I like Tested. I like the Mythbusters guys. I like the idea of them working together. Whose faces are the top of the site? Not a big thing to me. And seemingly not big to Will & Norm. Yeah, maybe they are just lying about their enthusiasm to keep their jobs, and maybe I'm the 3rd in line to the throne of Denmark. But as we can't verify that at present lets just assume they aren't lying to us as a basic courtesy, no?

Bottom line, the new site has been live for less than 24 hours. It's still a work-in-progress. Adam & Jamie are out on tour at the moment. Give it time to see how it all comes together before shitting on it. A bit of skepticism is fine, but openly doubting the motives of everyone involved just seems to me a bit much.

I can verify that you aren't third in line for the throne in Denmark. I can't verify anything W&N say, so I have to evaluate their words vs what I see. Right now, Will is trying to tell me the sky is purple, but I'm looking at a pretty fucking blue sky. (If we want to keep this metaphor rolling, he could provide me with proof I'm colorblind (i.e some actual content) and then maybe I'll start believing him.)