The Dueling Ferraris Of Forza 3 And Gran Turismo 5

" @twillfast said:

" What the hell is up with the frame rate of that forza video? It's so sketchy I almost got a headache watching it. I'm getting GT5 because I've been waiting on it since I got my PS3 in '07 and I'll be damned if I quit now.   Forza seems like it'll be a must-have for 360 owners who like driving games, but after seeing that video I'd definitly look into the framerate before getting it. "

Dude, it's been confirmed a longgg time ago that the game will run in 60FPS. The creator even said so on stage in front of thousands of people at E3. The video in some parts is meant to hold stills, it's called a transition effect. It's just the way the video was made.

" @dezvous: Dude the only reason it's taking so long is because of that reason - they want to make everything look good. Where as on Forza's side, the game already looks good, and it's coming out next month. You realize that Turn 10 was able to already release 2 games WITHIN the time span it took to create GT5? And that's not even all because it's not even sure when the game is released. ]  I don't know about you, but I'd rather have an actual game to play, or two, instead of waiting and waiting for 4-5 years for one game. Just saying. "
 

Brad should have called this news story;    The Dualing Fanboys Of Forza 3 And Gran Turismo 5!!

Both videos look great and i guess the winner is Ferrari, because that is a pretty sweet ride! I am however sad that they only announced the Japanese release date for GT5, well not really a date, a month. But i have to say after playing both games at Gamescom last month i'm going to buy both. If you like realistic racing games and you can afford both, then why wouldn't you!? They each have pros and cons, but both will be great!
I'm not going into which one is better, but i will say that GT5 trailer looks nothing like what was playable at Gamescom. Also i hope the 458 Italia will be a free download in Forza 3. Not that i won't buy it if you have to pay for it, i just like things for free... i'm Dutch.

" GT footage is from replay mode(whenever the car is driving on the track. The views of it stationary with black background at the start aren't though). "

@Arne said:

" Say what you want about the games, but PD's trailer kinda leave turn10s trailer in the dust, its not even remotely as good. "

yeah, because it's all CG, pre-rendered. Forza's is in game, duh. 
 
Notice how the GT5 video doesn't even have the sounds of the car... just a song and video.   

YOU EVIL EVIL PEOPLE! MAKING US ARGUE LIKE THAT...WHERE IS THE LOVE?

That Forza vid is in-game footage? DO WANT

" @xyzygy said:

" @twillfast said:

" What the hell is up with the frame rate of that forza video? It's so sketchy I almost got a headache watching it. I'm getting GT5 because I've been waiting on it since I got my PS3 in '07 and I'll be damned if I quit now.   Forza seems like it'll be a must-have for 360 owners who like driving games, but after seeing that video I'd definitly look into the framerate before getting it. "

Dude, it's been confirmed a longgg time ago that the game will run in 60FPS. The creator even said so on stage in front of thousands of people at E3. The video in some parts is meant to hold stills, it's called a transition effect. It's just the way the video was made.

 I'm not talking about the style of the video, I'm talking about the friggin' framerate lag. If you don't see it you are not looking at the screen.But yes, I watched this video on gametrailers and it runs way smoother. "

FACK now i have to buy a PS3 (that sure is ingame footage, if they Prerendered'd then i can guarantee it would look much better, but damn!  
 
ps. whats with forza's framerate?

Real or not GT did a better job. It focused on one car and made you drool. I think Forza had a good start with all the models but it would have been nice to see them all in motion and not just a few of them. Overall I think GT won this hands down.

FACK now i have to buy a PS3 (that sure is ingame footage, if they Prerendered'd then i can guarantee it would look much better, but damn!  
 
ps. whats with forza's framerate?

I don't know if this revelation will muddy the waters at all concerning GT's graphics (although it's pretty clear it's in-engine but NOT in-game; there's a difference) but in the video skip forward to about 1:20. When the video starts from the left wheel of the car, zoomed in, and then begins to zoom out, look at the mountain in the distance and tell if you don't see something weird there. The exact time that you should be looking for is 1:25. It looks like the mountains are popping in (there might be another term) in the distance. I know I'm not seeing things. 
 
Seriously though, someone else (there was one guy who seemed to be pretty knowledgeable about this type of thing) take a look at that to let me know that I wasn't seeing things. 
 
This definitely wouldn't happen in a completely pre-rendered video would it? As someone else said, this is most likely replay footage. A slight step up from the regular game.

" I don't know if this revelation will muddy the waters at all concerning GT's graphics (although it's pretty clear it's in-engine but NOT in-game; there's a difference) but in the video skip forward to about 1:20. When the video starts from the left wheel of the car, zoomed in, and then begins to zoom out, look at the mountain in the distance and tell if you don't see something weird there. The exact time that you should be looking for is 1:25. It looks like the mountains are popping in (there might be another term) in the distance. I know I'm not seeing things.  Seriously though, someone else (there was one guy who seemed to be pretty knowledgeable about this type of thing) take a look at that to let me know that I wasn't seeing things.  This definitely wouldn't happen in a completely pre-rendered video would it? As someone else said, this is most likely replay footage. A slight step up from the regular game. "

The GT's trailer's animation is too weak to be CG. It has to be in-game, right?

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"Forza 3 looks awesome and the environments look stunning...GT5 is not even ingame what is Poly thinking they're doing a commercial for Ferrari or something =[ "

I like the car.

Forza franchise is clearly and slimply better than than the Gran Turismo one now. Sorry GT5 boys, it is the truth. I can go play my copy of Forza 3 and compete with other drivers online while everyone is waiting for GT5 to try and release on time.

" I highly doubt the GT5 footage is in-game, but it sure does look nice. "

" Forza franchise is clearly and slimply better than than the Gran Turismo one now. Sorry GT5 boys, it is the truth. I can go play my copy of Forza 3 and compete with other drivers online while everyone is waiting for GT5 to try and release on time. "

HOLLY SHIIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
 
Did anyone else get shivers down thier spine when watching the GT5 one, I know its not in game footage but still.

I love how everyone's sure the GT5 vid isn't in-game simply based on the fact it looks twice as good as Forza 3. Like it's not also possible Forza's video is sprouced up also with insane amounts of AA/AF or whatever the 360 can't handle. Just treat both equally skeptical for now guys.

Why is the Forza video in crappy frame rate btw? Video player issue or is the source like that?

" What's the music in the Forza one? I guess it's already understood that GT5 will look graphically better than Forza 3, but at least Forza keeps to their release dates... for the most part. "

" @twillfast said:

" @xyzygy said:

" @twillfast said:

" What the hell is up with the frame rate of that forza video? It's so sketchy I almost got a headache watching it. I'm getting GT5 because I've been waiting on it since I got my PS3 in '07 and I'll be damned if I quit now.   Forza seems like it'll be a must-have for 360 owners who like driving games, but after seeing that video I'd definitly look into the framerate before getting it. "

Dude, it's been confirmed a longgg time ago that the game will run in 60FPS. The creator even said so on stage in front of thousands of people at E3. The video in some parts is meant to hold stills, it's called a transition effect. It's just the way the video was made.

 I'm not talking about the style of the video, I'm talking about the friggin' framerate lag. If you don't see it you are not looking at the screen.But yes, I watched this video on gametrailers and it runs way smoother. "

There's nothing wrong with the framerate in the video..  And even if there was, we already now have a demo up for Forza.  It looks beautiful, and runs absolutely smoothly.  The game is locked at 60fps, trying to argue about it now that most of us have actually played the game ourselves, is a little pointless. "

"I watched this video on gametrailers and it runs way smoother. "

GT5 pre-rendered video does look much better than the real-time footage of Forza 3.

"Like it's not also possible Forza's video is sprouced up also with insane amounts of AA/AF or whatever the 360 can't handle.  "

doubt that the gt5 footage is ingame.

and we have a WINNER
 
Both games have Demos out 

Forza demo came out a few days ago. Looks and plays amazingly well  
GT5 demo came out a few months ago. (GT5 pro). Looks not as good as Forza and plays like an old PS2 game

Here's a pretty decent cam-video from TGS of how good the Ferrari looks in GT5. And yes, this is actual in-game... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9MRsDC1l8A&feature=player_embedded

Hard to believe that GT5 footage is in engine considering Sony's record on this sort of thing.

" @LeetBalla: I'm assuming you are referring to the Killzone 2 trailer? Which was shown 4 years before the release. And after all the shit that Guerilla Games got from that, everyone seems to forget that the end product was graphically a lot better.   

" @Alexander said:

"For anyone wondering, the track in the Forza vid is by a guy called Alex Metric and it's called What Now.  If you ever get a chance to see one of his DJ sets do, they're awesome. "

track in GT5 video is, London Elektricity - Just One Second (Apex Remix)     

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGNDlLiVBK0&fmt=18     "  

" @SILIK said:

" @LeetBalla: I'm assuming you are referring to the Killzone 2 trailer? Which was shown 4 years before the release. And after all the shit that Guerilla Games got from that, everyone seems to forget that the end product was graphically a lot better.   

A lot better? Even though I loved the game and thought it looked great I think don't think it looked as good as that E3 trailer. I believe what I see when GT5 comes out, even though I will still probably be playing Forza. "

" @niyoko said:

" Forza franchise is clearly and slimply better than than the Gran Turismo one now. Sorry GT5 boys, it is the truth. I can go play my copy of Forza 3 and compete with other drivers online while everyone is waiting for GT5 to try and release on time. "

I will crush you!!! "

" and we have a WINNER  Both games have Demos out  Forza demo came out a few days ago. Looks and plays amazingly well   GT5 demo came out a few months ago. (GT5 pro). Looks not as good as Forza and plays like an old PS2 game "

...WOah 
 
it's as if i just entered system wars. I will just say, have you tried the forza 3 demo yet? It's pretty cool...

that shit is real. they used the repay mode so the AA is top knotch since replay mode cuts the framerate in half.  
check out these incredible screen shots: 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363772

" GT5 pre-rendered video does look much better than the real-time footage of Forza 3. "

That GT5 video looks amazing but the little voice in the back of my head keeps saying "That looks way to good to be anything other than a tech demo or a brushed up trailer". Of course then the little voice goes back to his usual ramblings about lizard people and the need for a tin foil hat.

" @Snake_Eyes_Ex said:

" GT5 pre-rendered video does look much better than the real-time footage of Forza 3. "

XD  seriously man, i am going to be quoting all of you guys once gt5 comes out "