The whole Consoles vs. PC thing. theres something i dont get

" @trophyhunter said:

" Then you have to have to say stuff like, "Well it's really only 1079 lines of restitution. So obviously it's the worst game ever." "

Was that a Freudian slip or did you just plain fuck up?   Gains-based recovery, indeed. "

" @Geno: How does that even make sense? I'm saying it will look good and play good on the console.   Any console player will not care that the PC is better, because the console version is good already. "

" @MrKlorox said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" Then you have to have to say stuff like, "Well it's really only 1079 lines of restitution. So obviously it's the worst game ever." "

Was that a Freudian slip or did you just plain fuck up?   Gains-based recovery, indeed. "

No, I just fucked up. wooooooooooo "

You give the average person too much credit. People aren't technically proficient. I've had long conversations with customers at my old GameStop job about features the 360 has and they are fucking amazed. This typically results in them being confused how to navigate and operate the console. I can't even tell you how many times I have had to explain syncing controllers to people.

" In my country they speak of a system so virile, so potent, that to play games on it is to enter into a world of sensual delights most men dare not dream of. This system is known as the "PC". You may play games, Mr. Console, but you are no PC. "

" @No0b0rAmA said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" Ok here it is, I'll solve this thread right here and now. PC elitists  are crying about having the most powerful "system" and no one seems to care.  Now that's just it, no one does care at all.  99% of people that play games just want to get the newest game, shove it in their CONSOLE and play it.  It's just you oddballs that have to justify to yourself, why you spent more money on the thing that gives you the exact same experience.  Then you have to have to say stuff like, "Well it's really only 1079 lines of restitution. So obviously it's the worst game ever." In summary, no one cares that your PC is more powerful than a console. It still plays the same damn games.  How about you stop being such a dick about it? "

I love this. When a person's  PC vs Console argument doesn't go their way, they go ahead and pull out the "PC elitists" bullshit. Shit, have you even been reading the replies at all? "

I got news for you this thread would not exist if PC players were not elitists.  "

PC will always be my favorite platform as long as it is the most open. I need my source ports, indie games and crazy deep strategy games. Also mods.

" Personally, I bought my current computer4 years ago for around 800. I can still run most major releases at the highest settings, at 1920x1200 (including Metro 2033, Crysis, et cetera), and I've spent a total of about 150 dollars on upgrades (added some RAM, added a second GPU).  "

" console games  you put the disc in and it just fucking works. comfy couch  big nice TV controller is a billion times better than keyboard and mouseyou put in a PC game   you have to set it up  it runs like shit or not at all, because you don't have a $200 graphics card or something. The sound does not work for some unknown reason, you have to reinstall it.  Only in rare cases does the maximum setting even noticeably change any thing. "

" @ryanwho said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" Ok here it is, I'll solve this thread right here and now. HD console elitists  are crying about having the most powerful "system" and no one seems to care.  Now that's just it, no one does care at all.  99% of people that play games just want to get the newest game, shove it in their Wii and play it.  It's just you oddballs that have to justify to yourself, why you spent more money on the thing that gives you the exact same experience.  Then you have to have to say stuff like, "Well it's really only 1079 lines of restitution. So obviously it's the worst game ever." In summary, no one cares that your HD console is more powerful than a Wii. How about you stop being such a dick about it? "

I just shit my pants. "

I didn't really want to know that dude. Seriously now, your only response was to childishly edit what I said? I win by default I suppose then. "

A small argument for the PC is that PC games are cheaper. The game developers doesn't have to pay a console-maker for the privilege of releasing a game on the PC.
 Most consoles are sold for a loss. As a piece of hardware, both the ps3 and 360 is ridiculously under priced. What MS and sony makes their money on, is selling games and accessories. 
 
 
Though admittedly, you would have to buy a LOT of PC games and accessories in order to make up the difference. Consoles are the most efficient gaming machines to make, because they can be made in huge bulks. Everyone knows what they are dealing with.
 
Ill never leave my PC though. Free mods, dedicated servers for clans and communities, more slots in multiplayer for most games,  the precise mouse and keyboard, the biggest controller compatibility,
no-mercy simulators such as Arma, Iracing and flight sim, and the pleasure and pride of building your own computer, researching new powerful parts for it etc.
 
But I would never recommend PC gaming for someone who does not already have a bit of know-how, or does not have an interest for serious simulators(a PC exclusive genre).

Because controller > mouse and keyboard. 
 
Also, it's pretty unbelievable that you've posted almost 7000 times and your grammar is still that bad. :|

This is why we can't have nice things :(

I am crazy for HD about as much as I am crazy for the screen aspect ratio changing. again.

Simply put, the PC market is not shrinking.  The GPU wars and ever filled PC parts stores and ever present PC parts selling ads topping all media throughput in all mediums are all proof of that.  While I don't have statistics, I would say that PC parts easily contribute around 30% of eBay's sales.  MS themselves have turned one of the their flagship console properties, Fable III, whose franchise was originally launched as a console exclusive and whose sequel was another console exclusive into a PC release.  They didn't do so because the PC market is shrinking, but rather they did so because the PC Market is ever growing, in especially large numbers outside of the US market and they can't afford to lose their stake in that market anymore.  In truth, the XBOX 360/Live experiment has cost them a lot of money and even with having given Windows 7 (beta/RC) away for free for over 18months as a gesture of goodwill (to bring customers back on board after the failure of Vista) they still likely earned a lot more money from Windows 7 retail sales than they have earned over the whole course of the 360's release schedule, back end on games and accesories included.
 
There is a false analogy being passed around on console centric forums and news sites like Giantbomb and that false analogy is that the PC gaming market is shrinking.  It's not.  It's growing.  It's bigger than and worth more than the console market in toto.  I wouldn't be suprised if there are more top end graphics cards sold than PS3 and XBOX 360's combined and certainly wouldn't be suprised if there were more PC games sold than all console games over the last 5 years, since the release of the present console generation.
 
Consoles are convenient, yes and they can offer a pleasant, exciting and easy to implement gaming experience but they are in no way affecting PC gaming as a business.

HAHAHAHAHAH! WOW! Some of these comments are so amazingly absurd that I can't stop laughing. I was ready to write up one of those giant posts explaining why they are wrong, but by the end of reading some of them I realized I would just be wasting my time doing so. Most of these anti PC comments are just your standard factually wrong propaganda from the console kiddie handbook that gets passed around as fact by those too lazy or inept to think for themselves.

" Because controller > mouse and keyboard."

 @SeriouslyNow said:

" While I don't have statistics, I would say that PC parts easily contribute around 30% of eBay's sales.   "

" I love it when people say "but PC gaming's so expensiiiiive"...  If you have a PC made in the last 5 or so years, chances are, it can play games.  I bought my PC for $400 a few months ago, and I've had absolutely no trouble running modern games on it.  I can play Half-Life 2 (with fakefactory 10) , Bioshock, Borderlands, GTA IV, Fallout 3, and Bad Company 2 on max settings, running 40-60 fps.  I can also play Crysis on mid-high settings, no problem.  You don't have to buy an overpriced Alienware to play PC games, people. "

I used to play all games on my PC. Now I always choose the console versions if I can. Yep, it's the old couch argument :) I do play games on the PC if they're exclusive though, which mostly amounts to adventure games. I bought Amnesia this morning, looking forward to play it when I come home tonight.

The whole crux of this thread revolves around 1 theory: That PC Gaming is dying. 
 
Starcraft 2 has sold 2 million copies so far. 
 
Just make a good game for the PC, and it'll sell.  
 
 
Millions of people play Peggle and other garbage.
 
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