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#1 Edited by Immuniity (241 posts) -

I love gaming but theres just so many things that i've come just to accept about it..even if i dont want to.

  • There will never be another Soul Reaver game. The series is dead and any attempt to remake the games will go horribly.
  • The days of isometric sprawling RPGs are long gone.
  • JRPGs have stagnated and theres no sign of changing
  • Kid who plays games saves his family from a house fire - Unrelated to games. Kid who plays games attacks another child in anger - ITS THAT DAMN MODERN DUTY'S FAULT.
  • Gaming journalism is years behind being good. Every site will just copy / paste a press release.
  • Game ratings exist from 7 -10 on most sites.
  • Nintendo doesnt make games for me anymore (im just not the target audience anymore)
  • People will push that 'gaming is a mature hobby enjoyed by a wide variety of people spanning young and old' but still crack a fuss if content is 'too mature'
  • Theres always going to be at least one person that makes you embarrassed to admit you play games in public because of how ludicrous he acts and claims lines like 'us gamers'.
 
How about you guys?
 

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  • Multiplayer games released on consoles have a life-span of about two weeks if their name is not Call of Duty or Halo. Really depressing. (mnzy)
  • DLC and other payed content will become more and more frustrating since nobody seems to mind it and buys 5 maps für 16$ (mnzy)
  •  Call of Duty is now only marketed at, bought and played by chavs, bros and twats... which is a shame considered CoD 1 and 2 were brilliant.  (Gap)
  • People will keep saying "JRPGs are stagnated" when they have little experience with the genre. ( extremeradical)
  • Escort missons (extremeradical)
  • Jay-Z is part of a larger Masonic conspiracy involving triangles. Obviously (extremeradical)
  •  Single player campaign lengths are becoming smaller due to DLC and more focus on Multiplayer (wwfundertaker)

     
#2 Posted by mnzy (2914 posts) -
  • Multiplayer games released on consoles have a life-span of about two weeks if their name is not Call of Duty or Halo. Really depressing.
  • DLC and other payed content will become more and more frustrating since nobody seems to mind it and buys 5 maps für 16$.
#3 Posted by applet0n (653 posts) -
@Immuniity: I'd definitely agree with you on all those things. I think this should be made into a full-fledged list, adding what everyone feels to it. Dunno, may be a bit cathartic?
#4 Posted by Skald (4367 posts) -
  • People will keep saying "JRPGs are stagnated" when they have little experience with the genre. 
  • Escort missons.
  • Jay-Z is part of a larger Masonic conspiracy involving triangles. Obviously.
#5 Posted by wwfundertaker (1403 posts) -

Single player campaign lengths are becoming smaller due to DLC and more focus on Multiplayer.

#6 Posted by matti00 (668 posts) -
  • They will never remake Final Fantasy VII.
#7 Edited by Immuniity (241 posts) -
@applet0n:  If you tihnk its a good idea. I'll do it. I'll start adding stuff to a definitive list.
 
@extremeradical: I'm happy to explain my self about JRPGs. I just want something more like earthbound and chronotrigger. Taking the genre in different direcitons and not just accepting random encounters and turn based combat. I understand theres ALWAYS going to be games that want to change it, but its like saying 'well that part of the ship isnt sinking' to justify the titanic.
#8 Posted by mordukai (7150 posts) -
  • Bobby Kotick will continue to make gamers his bitches with every single CoD release. 
  • People will always act like asses when playing online.
  • Sony will always fuck up the NA front artwork for Team Ico's games.
  • Single play is dying because gamers think they are getting screwed if the game doesn't have MP.
#9 Posted by neoepoch (1295 posts) -

Nintendo will keep shelling out "core" game titles, and people will still bitch that they aren't making titles for "them" anymore.
Earthbound won't come to Virtual Console   :(
Anything Mother related and the United States really.
Lawrence Holland probably won't make another Star Wars space sim .

#10 Posted by Little_Socrates (5677 posts) -

-Blizzard, the innovators of my youth, have become an evil company devoted to making excellent games that steal people's souls. 
-3D is going to happen to console games, and it's going to suck. 
-Not a single one of Nintendo's announcements at E3 2010 is going to be as good as it could have been. 
-People are still going to give a crap about actual scores when it comes to reviews even when they don't read the review itself. 
-Everybody is going to keep hating Ninja Theory but me. 
-Harmonix is, sadly, going to have to go back to low-budget releases for a niche market. 
-There are so many gaming podcasts out there that suck that it is now impossible to get people to listen to the really good ones. 
-Activision will actively attempt to destroy everything I've ever loved. EA will merely try to subvert it. 
-The Assassin's Creed series is doomed to fail now that every major member of the storytelling staff is leaving Ubisoft Montreal. 
-There will never be a remake of Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem because Silicon Knights will not survive Too Human 2. 
-There is going to be a Too Human 2. 
-Duke Nukem Forever, even if it comes out, is going to suck. 
-There will never be a Half-Life 2: Episode 3. We will just get Half-Life 3. Or Left 4 Dead 3, whatever fills Gabe's checkbook. 
-Peter Molyneaux will always be full of shit. 
-Direct downloads will destroy brick-and-mortar game stores, and my love for physical media is going to have to end. As a result, I will buy less games due to the lack of resale value.

#11 Posted by Galiant (2193 posts) -
@Mordukai said:
"
  • Single play is dying because gamers think they are getting screwed if the game doesn't have MP.
"
150 single player hours of Fallout: New Vegas and still going. There are other games genres, you know!
#12 Posted by BootlessDragoon (13 posts) -
@Immuniity said:
" I love gaming but theres just so many things that i've come just to accept about it..even if i dont want to.

  • There will never be another Soul Reaver game. The series is dead and any attempt to remake the games will go horribly.
  • The days of isometric sprawling RPGs are long gone.
  • JRPGs have stagnated and theres no sign of changing
  • Kid who plays games saves his family from a house fire - Unrelated to games. Kid who plays games attacks another child in anger - ITS THAT DAMN MODERN DUTY'S FAULT.
  • Gaming journalism is years behind being good. Every site will just copy / paste a press release.
  • Game ratings exist from 7 -10 on most sites.
  • Nintendo doesnt make games for me anymore (im just not the target audience anymore)
  • People will push that 'gaming is a mature hobby enjoyed by a wide variety of people spanning young and old' but still crack a fuss if content is 'too mature'
  • Theres always going to be at least one person that makes you embarrassed to admit you play games in public because of how ludicrous he acts and claims lines like 'us gamers'.
 How about you guys? "  
 
I agree with you on those points. I had put faith in Final Fantasy XIII to spark my interest in JRPGS, but I was put off by how much grinding I would have to do to make it past Chapter 11. Not all is lost though, I got a copy of Persona 3 PSP that I was enjoying until I set it aside.  
 
On the topic of Nintendo... Zelda was the last franchise from Nintendo that I truly cared about. After playing through Twilight Princess I knew the formula had become too stale for me and it was time to move on.   
#13 Posted by abdo (1037 posts) -
  • Regenerating health
  • Beyond Good & Evil 2 will probably never be made
#14 Posted by Skald (4367 posts) -
@Immuniity: It's OK, I'm certainly not the staunchest defender of Japanese game design. I'd just like to point out that while not a lot of progress has been made in that sector of the industry, strategy, both real time and turn-based are stuck in similar ruts, and stop me if I'm wrong, but first person shooters, while enjoyable, aren't changing too quickly either. These predominantly western genres are, and have been for a number of years, lorded over by Starcraft, Civilization, and Call of Duty. How old are those series? How much have they really changed? Not every game can be as good as Chrono Trigger, but Final Fantasy XII and Persona 3 and 4 are pretty great games in their own right. 
 
The point is, most genres are affected by quantum leaps rather than gradual evolution. Just wait for a new series to become the de facto JRPG the same way Halo, and later Call of Duty, became the benchmark for modern shooters.
#15 Posted by ThaMilkMan (346 posts) -

-Pokemon Games will continue to be "kiddy" yet highly entertaining to people that give them a chance 
-Activision will anualize every ounce of all of their games to maximize profit 
-Gaming will always be art!

#16 Posted by ShadowofIntent (288 posts) -

People will always throw their money away by doing business with Gamestop.
Society is willing to except a level where the player guns down civilians in an airport, but thinks seeing a side boob in a cutscene is horrific.
Motion controls are here to stay (fuck)

#17 Posted by animathias (1186 posts) -
  • Final Fantasy as we knew and loved it is dead.
  • People who played Final Fantasy VIII before playing VII think it's the superior game, and vice versa, but to be perfectly honest they're both bursting with cheesy writing and crazy mechanics.
  • Even if 12 million people pay $15 a month for a game, all of those people are weird shut-ins with no souls.
  • Anyone who is 10 levels higher than you in your favorite modern shooter has no life.
  • The more advanced the game, the more patches it needs.
  • People who play games can be scary, angry people when masked by Internet anonymity.
#18 Posted by mordukai (7150 posts) -
@Galiant said:
" @Mordukai said:
"
  • Single play is dying because gamers think they are getting screwed if the game doesn't have MP.
"
150 single player hours of Fallout: New Vegas and still going. There are other games genres, you know! "
Did I say dead? No. I said dying. Kinda ironic you would mention Fallout seeing how that game is pretty much devoid of life.
#19 Posted by Immuniity (241 posts) -
@extremeradical: I completely understand where your coming from but i didnt tacitly accept the immobility of RTS or FPS. These genres (much more so FPS) are indeed stuck in a rut and its embaressing the amount of zombie / super soldier / alien enemy stuff that comes out these days. Come on lads, mix it up a bit!
 
I also thought that Final fantasy, Dragon Quest and Persona (so ive heard) are the benchmark JRPGs. But from where im standing FF is spiraling down with average titles like 14, Dragon Quest is still largely dominated by Asia (but business is a booming) and Person is...well i guess like Dragon Quest.
 
I'll stop responding now cause for a thread about getting something off your chest, i sure am crucifying you for it.
#20 Posted by Skald (4367 posts) -
@Immuniity: No problem. This is a forum, for discussions. I like nothing better than a bit of debate. 
 
In the meantime, I'll just wait for them to change, which they either will, or they'll face ambivalence on a global scale. Simple as that.
#21 Posted by empfeix (774 posts) -

After Valves source engine has run its course, I've accepted the fact that FPS games will all require you to aim down the sights for maximum accuracy.   
 
I really hate this gameplay mechanic but its just an evolution of the FPS that I'm going to have to accept.

#22 Posted by dudeglove (7846 posts) -
@Immuniity said:

"

  • Escort missons (extremeradical)
     
"

This will unfortunately always be the case as long as some developers keep arrogantly believing that "no one else has done it right".
 
Ironically, another forum elsewhere has asked more or less the same question:
 
 
  • Zombie everything
  • Post apocalyptic everything, of the lazy Mad Max wasteland tropes variety especially
  • Token plucky female NPC buddy / suggestive love interest -- yeah we liked HL2 a lot too when it came out, but that was a long time ago now
  • cutscenes in place of gameplay
  • Main characters who abjectly go against the interests of the game.
  • Games with a majority cast of "non-main" characters that shoehorn in the main characters even if you don't care about them.
  • Cutscenes at a length that wouldn't be acceptable for an entire movie, nevermind a fucking video game.
  • Theme Park MMOs and any mmo-style thing that tries to ignore the fact that there's a bunch of players and nobody's the main hero.
  • Explanations for gameplay elements that don't make sense in the parts of the game where you don't have the thing that justifies the weird gameplay element (I AM LOOKING AT YOU HEV SUIT).
  • Cutscenes where game rules don't apply any more for no adequately explored reason other than "now it's real life because it's a movie".
  • "Hey you know that common fantasy race, well we're totally going to turn it on its head and re-explore the concept! Wait what do you mean fantasy races are basically humans with some weird trait?"
  •   Piecemeal DLC packs for strategy games instead of proper expansions.  
  •  copying Halo, Cod and/or GoW, (both GoWs). 
  •  Farmville and similar "games". 
 
 in game story telling and general communication:

  • "Hello I write/do art for video games, and the extent of my cultural consumption is genre television and fantasy paperbacks, the McDonalds of entertainment, which is appropriate because I am probably also full of Cheeseburger Meals" - all the Bioware quest writers do is watch Firefly, all the Eidos Montreal types can think of for cyberpunk is Blade Runner and GiTS.
  • The Space Marine: The space marine is everywhere, even if he is not a space marine, he is a space marine. Cole in inFamous is a space marine: he is gruff, dark, raspy voiced angry dude who has no particular emotions feelings or personality traits except his grimdark anger.
  • Tutorial sections that have become just part of how the game plays. "John Videogames, here is a puzzle! Here also are icons, some VO and a specialised item standing right in front of you explaining exactly how to solve the puzzle!"

in graphics;

  • hnnnnngh I, art lead, must crush blacks and create high contrast where there can be none also I must hard limit all hues to blue green or yellow BECAUSE THAT'S REAL ART DIRECTION (worst case offenders: Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3)
  • Our video game will have five facial morphs going on at once, screen space SSS for skin, and shifting animated normal maps for clothing folds, but no one will bother to figure out how to make our characters focus their eyes and not look like googly motherfuckers, (guilty parties: pretty much everyone except valve and maybe blizzard)


Top tier characters in fighting games are almost always cookie-cutter boxers:

 Steve Fox

 Balrog
#23 Posted by Immuniity (241 posts) -

I've given up with any hope of adding all of these to one list. It would simply require WAY too much time and effort on my part...i'm just one man!
 
From what i've viewed i can pretty much get behind most things said. Its amazing how...terrible gaming is in some aspects. But this should not be taken lightly however ive come to accept that despite all these problems, if anything was to go south (gaming appeal to the mass market, review scores)...pirates would be to blame, and not the fault of developers.

#24 Posted by Shadow (4980 posts) -

People who play them online will find any and every method of making the game not fun for you.

#25 Posted by natetodamax (19205 posts) -

Many developers lack the creativity to create a protagonist that isn't a 20-30 something year old white male.

#26 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4745 posts) -

Call of Duty sells more than Okami.

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#27 Posted by sodiumCyclops (2644 posts) -

The Aliens Vs Predator franchise is dead.

#28 Posted by X19 (2306 posts) -
@mnzy said:
"
  • Multiplayer games released on consoles have a life-span of about two weeks if their name is not Call of Duty or Halo. Really depressing. "
 
UC2 Multiplayer 
 

#29 Posted by Winternet (8019 posts) -

They will make Dragon Ball games until the end of days. 
There will never be another game in the Freelancer Universe. 
Nolan North is everyone. 
Gordan Freeman will never speak. 
Cpt. Price is immortal. 

#30 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7617 posts) -
@Immuniity said:
"There will never be another Soul Reaver game. The series is dead and any attempt to remake the games will go horribly. "

The Soul Reaver games were part of the Legacy of Kain games..  I definitely wouldn't want to see any of the Soul Reaver games remade, but the first game in the series, Blood Omen is horribly dated and almost unplayable due to clunky controls, eye bleedingly bad graphics and horrific load times.  If they could keep the same voice actors, it would definitely benefit from a remake. 
 
As for JRPG's, they were something I really enjoyed during the PS1/PS2 era.  These days, the writting comes off as far more cheesy, the gameplay has barley evolved (in some cases not at all) and the over all plot and characters are usually very cliché.  Almost always about "saving teh world!!1" with characters who fit into very generic arch types.  The hero, who's village was burned down.  The mysterious girl who ends up being a love interest.  The jive talking black guy.  The sneaky, happy go lucky theif girl.  The rude obnoxious one.  And the older swordsman mentor type, who doesn't talk much.   ETC.
 
Obviously this doesn't apply to the whole genre and I'm very much looking forward to Golden Sun DS.  But I can definitely understand why so many people express such a "meh" feeling to them as a whole, generally speaking there's very little originality.  Then again, I'd express the same complaints against Call of Duty and most other FPS.
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#31 Posted by wubb (277 posts) -

There is low to no penalty for dying, otherwise the game is considered to be ultra-hardcore.
 
Not saying I'd like to go back to the NES days where you had to start over from the beginning after using that last life.

#32 Posted by Hockeymask27 (3683 posts) -
  • Leaderboards will never matter like in arcades (to many hackers/cheaters)
#33 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8699 posts) -

I've come to accept that there's only around 10 games per year (bit high actually) that are worth full price and give a great experience.
It used to be so many more, I got 40 gamecube games and barely 15 xbox360 games, too much focus on the bleeding multiplayer!

#34 Posted by Sweep (8859 posts) -
  • I am completely comfortable watching live professional tournements of a videogame that, 6 months ago, I didn't know existed.
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#35 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5827 posts) -

gaming is an expensive hobby

#36 Posted by Galiant (2193 posts) -
@Mordukai
@Galiant said:
" @Mordukai said:
"
  • Single play is dying because gamers think they are getting screwed if the game doesn't have MP.
"
150 single player hours of Fallout: New Vegas and still going. There are other games genres, you know! "
Did I say dead? No. I said dying. Kinda ironic you would mention Fallout seeing how that game is pretty much devoid of life.
I don't think it's dying, and I definitely don't feel screwed buying games without multiplayer. If that's how you feel maybe you're playing the wrong games or the major single player games out there are not to your liking? I don't see how it could be dying unless you're saying that what's available now does not interest you?
#37 Posted by Tordah (2479 posts) -
@Shadow said:

" People who play them online will find any and every method of making the game not fun for you. "

This is the worst.  I hate how true this sentence is. 
#38 Posted by RiotBananas (3600 posts) -

Games constantly telling me they auto-save.

#39 Posted by Galiant (2193 posts) -
@Tordah
@Shadow said:

" People who play them online will find any and every method of making the game not fun for you. "

This is the worst.  I hate how true this sentence is. 
Agreed.
#40 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
People, theres a thin line between accepting bitter facts about your favorite hobby, and between creating massive lists dissing everything there is to diss in games, which is immature and unrealistic. like they're supposed to be perfect 
 
 
@Little_Socrates
said:
"-The Assassin's Creed series is doomed to fail now that every major member of the storytelling staff is leaving Ubisoft Montreal."
being an Assassin's Creed fan myself, why the fuck are they leaving? they made fuckshit tons of money from those 2 games.. whats the problem ?
#41 Edited by Turambar (6784 posts) -
@Immuniity said:  

@extremeradical: I'm happy to explain my self about JRPGs. I just want something more like earthbound and chronotrigger. Taking the genre in different direcitons and not just accepting random encounters and turn based combat. I understand theres ALWAYS going to be games that want to change it, but its like saying 'well that part of the ship isnt sinking' to justify the titanic. "

Except the only thing truely different about Earthbound was its unique setting, something plenty of jrpgs have aimed to achieve.  Chrono Trigger changed the perspective you view the ATB system from, and removed random encounters, also something plenty of jrpgs have done.  If it's those two things you're looking for, then you should already be satiated.
 
 On topic: 
- Developers will be praised for copping out and using Player Created Protagonists to mask their own inability to craft an interesting character. 
- The most "meaningful" of choices will continue to lack any significance in terms of gameplay or story.
#42 Posted by Mrskidders (1330 posts) -

That gaming will never be as good as  what I grew up with.

#43 Posted by Blinck (185 posts) -
No game can make you care about a character. Games can have good overall stories and well-made worlds, but they just can't make you care for a character like a movie does.  ( this is my personal opinion of course )
 
Also, I've come to accept Invisible Walls or "uncrossable obstacles that even a baby could cross", but I still hate them :P
#44 Posted by Little_Socrates (5677 posts) -
@GunslingerPanda: Honestly, I'm almost nine hours into Okami, and Call of Duty deserves to sell more copies so far. Besides the fact that many of the mechanics in Okami are "only okay" and that the biggest merit I can award this game is that it's got a great art style, the game also panders to players in such a way that, yes, it's clearly aimed towards children, maybe 7-12, but still has some entertainment value for older people who are willing to sit through the poorly-written cutscenes about Japanese mythology. Call of Duty is aimed towards the much wider age bracket of 15-30, which also has a larger income average than the children, AND the storytelling is fair to the intelligence of any player who picks it up. 
 
I don't mean to say Okami is a "bad" game (if it were, I wouldn't be nine hours into it; I'll probably play even more of it tomorrow) but I definitely feel that CoD is a more universal experience made with better craftsmanship than Okami. The core of Okami, of course, is diamond in comparison to CoD's silver (except for CoD's occasional gold marks,) but there's a lot more rocky material to get through with Okami to enjoy the core of the game. I almost quit after I was two hours in-the first two hours of Okami are so poorly paced and so ill-crafted that there's nothing but the art style to recommend the game upon. 
 
Sorry, I don't mean to crucify you about this, I just really want to understand why people think Okami is such a great game, and why you think it'd be a good fit for the general gaming public. Again, Okami's not a bad game, but I just don't understand the hype and I feel like I'm missing something.
#45 Posted by Jack268 (3387 posts) -

The PS2 won't be supported in 10 years 
  
The PC always gets the shaft in multiplat releases

#46 Edited by LackingSaint (1814 posts) -
@Little_Socrates said:

 -Duke Nukem Forever, even if it comes out, is going to suck. 
-There will never be a Half-Life 2: Episode 3. We will just get Half-Life 3.
 -Direct downloads will destroy brick-and-mortar game stores, and my love for physical media is going to have to end. As a result, I will buy less games due to the lack of resale value. "

1) You don't know that. TF2 took a ridiculous amount of time to come out and is probably the best mutiplayer FPS out today.
2) What's wrong with getting a full game instead of an episode? You feel robbed because Valve decided to go the extra mile for you?
3) Resale value of what? 5 Dollars?  Maybe 10 if you bought the game brand new on release, in which case you've already wasted your money.
 
 @Mrskidders said:

" That gaming will never be as good as  what I grew up with. "

The games you grew up with are all but middling by today's standards. Take off the rose-tinted glasses son.
 
 
The best of games will be constantly harassed, and the most mediocre will be constantly praised.
#47 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -

No matter how they dress it up, all FPS game are just shooting guys in the head. Until something is done about that, video games will feel stagnant to me. Same with everyone demanding all games be fun and this devoid of anything potentially interesting.

#48 Posted by Little_Socrates (5677 posts) -
@LackingSaint:  
1) You're right, I don't know it, but I've come to accept it. Partially because I don't like Gearbox, and none of my friends do either. 
2) Gabe's specifically said that the episodic format of the Half-Life series was less profitable and also made it harder to create quality products. The combination is likely the reason we've waited so long for Half-Life 3. 
3) I usually manage to get somewhere between $20-30 dollars if I sell a game in the year it came out. inFamous is the kind of game I wanted to own for about a month, then sell later. Same goes for Uncharted 2, and some of the later Guitar Hero games. You can get a pretty nice load if you manage to sell games before they become irrelevant.
#49 Posted by mnzy (2914 posts) -
@X19 said:
" @mnzy said:
"
  • Multiplayer games released on consoles have a life-span of about two weeks if their name is not Call of Duty or Halo. Really depressing. "
 
UC2 Multiplayer 
 

"
Well, I did exaggerate, but I have a few Downloadtitles with Multiplayer, that didn't sell bad and I could only play multiplayer for a few days until nobody was online anymore.
Sure, there are exceptions, I have over 200h in SSF4 for example.
#50 Posted by Ragdrazi (2283 posts) -
@Immuniity said:
" I love gaming but theres just so many things that i've come just to accept about it..even if i dont want to.

  • There will never be another Soul Reaver game. The series is dead and any attempt to remake the games will go horribly.
  • The days of isometric sprawling RPGs are long gone.
  • JRPGs have stagnated and theres no sign of changing
  • Kid who plays games saves his family from a house fire - Unrelated to games. Kid who plays games attacks another child in anger - ITS THAT DAMN MODERN DUTY'S FAULT.
  • Gaming journalism is years behind being good. Every site will just copy / paste a press release.
  • Game ratings exist from 7 -10 on most sites.
  • Nintendo doesnt make games for me anymore (im just not the target audience anymore)
  • People will push that 'gaming is a mature hobby enjoyed by a wide variety of people spanning young and old' but still crack a fuss if content is 'too mature'
  • Theres always going to be at least one person that makes you embarrassed to admit you play games in public because of how ludicrous he acts and claims lines like 'us gamers'.
"
  • You're opinions are awesome and correct.
  • I am now following you.