@mlarrabee: That link hardly says anything. Also, according to dictionary.com, "recreation" has more than one definition, as some words have a habit of doing.
Sounds like entertainment fits that criteria. Also, Saying entertainment is a waste of time is stupid. Isn't the entire purpose of life to be happy and enjoy yourself?
Well, I wouldn't let my kid have a Halo poster -- not because I'm ignorant when it comes to videogames, but because I'd rather he keep his room classy and Halo is not that. My rooms have always been bare, and I've never understood why some people seem to think decking their walls out with a hundred posters makes it look better.
Well, you never know-the kid might be playing Halo 24/7 and be obsessed with it, dad might just be trying to get him to go outside once in a while
That's the thing, if that's the problem.. the dad should take away the game every now and then. If it's legitimately keeping the kid from going outside and getting some physical exercise or some shit like that, the dad (or the mom, if there is one), needs to do something. This shit ain't it.
@Emperor_Jimmu said:
@mandude said:
I know a lot of people who consider video games and graphic novels to be low brow, yet they'll still watch the movie adaptations.
You read picture books? They are for babies.
This stupid-ass school of thought still exists? Cute.
Well, I wouldn't let my kid have a Halo poster -- not because I'm ignorant when it comes to videogames, but because I'd rather he keep his room classy and Halo is not that. My rooms have always been bare, and I've never understood why some people seem to think decking their walls out with a hundred posters makes it look better.
I have a poster of Homer Simpson, the film Sucker Punch, and an American flag on my wall. I have no idea why since I'm not a huge fan of The Simpsons, Sucker Punch was a pretty average movie and I live in the uk. Think I need to take a long hard look at my life!
@Emperor_Jimmu: Maybe he's just referring to the people that actually do have those sentiments. I guess it doesn't help that they're also called comics.
Well, I wouldn't let my kid have a Halo poster -- not because I'm ignorant when it comes to videogames, but because I'd rather he keep his room classy and Halo is not that. My rooms have always been bare, and I've never understood why some people seem to think decking their walls out with a hundred posters makes it look better.
SO because your rooms have always been bare then that means that is the "right" way? Maybe there are people out there who disagree with that.
@Emperor_Jimmu: Maybe he's just referring to the people that actually do have those sentiments. I guess it doesn't help that they're also called comics.
What do you propose we call them? I'm lobbying for manics.
@Emperor_Jimmu: Mine was more bitter humor (that's a term now, BOOM). I was really only half-serious, I don't actually give two shits about what people think about it.
I was waiting in line to be served at a game store. A mother with her 5 year old son was in front. The kid ran off and came back with Spider man 2 for the ps2, he asked if he could get it. The mother said "No because Spidermans bad. He hurts people!"
Granted not game exactly but...still.
Another ignorant fool buying into the Bugles propaganda. The exact reason I don't read that newspaper anymore.
I was waiting in line to be served at a game store. A mother with her 5 year old son was in front. The kid ran off and came back with Spider man 2 for the ps2, he asked if he could get it. The mother said "No because Spidermans bad. He hurts people!"
Granted not game exactly but...still.
Another ignorant fool buying into the Bugles propaganda. The exact reason I don't read that newspaper anymore.
What were we talkning about again? Oh yeah, posters!
My room looks pretty classy if you disregard the whole cupboard filled with figurines, games and manga. Oh and I have a Duke Nukem Forever poster hung up, I forgot why but it pretty much ruins the place.
That is disgusting parenting. Who gives a shit what your kid does. As long as he/she is happy because of it and it doesn't hurt them in someway then leave them to it.
Also, holy shit I forgot about FYE and how grossly expensive they are.
@mlarrabee I don't know what you're on about. Entertainment, i.e. having fun, is not a waste of time. You sound like the most boring person ever.
People often mistake entertainment for recreation. It's a component of recreation, but for a lot of people, it's the only component they know and indulge. 1
EDIT: Just FYI, I've no idea to what "prophets" the link refers, but the basic truth still holds.
Regardless of your definition of the word: If I have fun when I play games, it's not a waste of my time. To me it sounds like you disagree with that statement.
Did anyone consider that the kids phase may have been Poster Hoarding? Maybe he always asks for posters everywhere they go, and then shits on them, and tosses them at his dog.
Did anyone consider that the kids phase may have been Poster Hoarding? Maybe he always asks for posters everywhere they go, and then shits on them, and tosses them at his dog.
Did anyone consider that the kids phase may have been Poster Hoarding? Maybe he always asks for posters everywhere they go, and then shits on them, and tosses them at his dog.
We're done here. Thread over.
Oh man.. I'm laughing so damn hard right now. You win Kadash299, you win.
On topic of posters though. I don't have any problem with them. Some are really cool.. I don't have any myself but I really have no problems if someone else likes them (some look really good once professionally framed and hung on a wall)
That is really ignorant. I don't see why its such a big deal for the guy's son to have a Halo poster in his room.
And since this thread has also become a thread about what kind of VG poster we have on our walls, I have a corner of my room with a Bully and RDR poster. I also have this small Acclaim advert poster. It advertises "Acclaim's Dream Team" and features NBA JAM, Mortal Kombat, Maximum Carnage and six other games.
Edit: Actually found a picture of the Acclaim poster.
Well, I wouldn't let my kid have a Halo poster -- not because I'm ignorant when it comes to videogames, but because I'd rather he keep his room classy and Halo is not that. My rooms have always been bare, and I've never understood why some people seem to think decking their walls out with a hundred posters makes it look better.
That seems like a fucking stupid thing to control for your kid. Kids will be kids, and non-destructive room decoration should be their choice.
Well, I wouldn't let my kid have a Halo poster -- not because I'm ignorant when it comes to videogames, but because I'd rather he keep his room classy and Halo is not that. My rooms have always been bare, and I've never understood why some people seem to think decking their walls out with a hundred posters makes it look better.
I kind of feel like you people shouldn't push tastes onto their kids too much, especially when what kid cares about class? Posters with long hair metal bands, and halo and racing car beds. None of these things is classy but do they need to be? They're kids, if my kid wants a racing car bed I'd be quite happy to oblige lol
Well, I wouldn't let my kid have a Halo poster -- not because I'm ignorant when it comes to videogames, but because I'd rather he keep his room classy and Halo is not that. My rooms have always been bare, and I've never understood why some people seem to think decking their walls out with a hundred posters makes it look better.
Rose: Do you remember that time I forced my way into your room? We'd known each other for almost a year... and you blew up! It was the first time you ever raised your hand against me! I was so worried about you... Jack: Look... I'm sorry... Rose: It wasn't your violent nature that scared me. It was your room... your heart... Jack: Stop it... Rose: There wasn't anything in your room -- only a bed and a small desk. It looked like a prison cell... No television set... no family pictures...
not even a poster... Jack: Rose, I only use that room for sleeping. Rose: A lifeless room... almost like your empty heart. Jack: That's why I tried to keep you out. Rose: I thought I was beginning to understand you -- until I saw that room.
I somehow have a Halo Wars poster. It was on my bedroom door for three years and it only came down because we moved a month back. I didn't even like Halo Wars.
But yeah, the whole "games are a phase" thing is obnoxious. Is listening to music a phase, too? Is watching movies a phase? No, they fucking aren't and neither is playing games.
@Demoskinos: maybe it was not about video games but posters. possibly the kid is obsessed with plastering posters all over the place and the dad wanted to stop the madness. I could get behind that.
the more likely real explanation, though, is really messed up and stupid.
My nans the same, thinks I'm to old for video games.
Tell "nans" she's too old for life, you know what to do after that!
Kidding, but really, it's hilarious that there is a stigma still associated with playing games, when a lot of them have more effort put in than the shitty movies and TV shows going today.
I enjoy driving, but driving has a purpose. It brings satisfaction, but it also improves my skill and gets me where I need to go.
I work at a soup kitchen and I enjoy it, but it's not entertaining. Again, it brings me satisfaction, and it rejuvenates me for the following work week. It re-creates me, if you will. It improves me as a person.
I also enjoy the films Funny Games and A Clockwork Orange. They are very uncomfortable movies to watch, and far from entertaining to me, but they cause me to examine my worldview, and so to improve and solidify my beliefs.
But I also really like Dirty Harry, the Rooster Teeth stuff, System Shock 2, Halo, and Thin Mint Girl Scout cookies. The difference is that this "entertainment" hasn't improved me. I really enjoy it, but it hasn't changed me for the better; it hasn't been proper recreation.
Within everything I enjoy, I draw a line between that which improves me mentally, physically, or spiritually, and that which doesn't. If it adds to my skills or personhood, I consider it recreative. If not, it's entertaining.
Again, this is how I choose to examine and label the occupations vying for my time; I don't expect other people to agree or follow suit.
@mlarrabee I don't know what you're on about. Entertainment, i.e. having fun, is not a waste of time. You sound like the most boring person ever.
People often mistake entertainment for recreation. It's a component of recreation, but for a lot of people, it's the only component they know and indulge. 1
EDIT: Just FYI, I've no idea to what "prophets" the link refers, but the basic truth still holds.
I think it only becomes a problem if you let those things control your life. The sign of maturity isn't that you abandon everything that society views as immature like entertainment. It's realizing that you have to limit yourself in order to make time for your friends, family, learning, everything. It's balance.
@Demoskinos: maybe it was not about video games but posters. possibly the kid is obsessed with plastering posters all over the place and the dad wanted to stop the madness. I could get behind that.
the more likely real explanation, though, is really messed up and stupid.
The OP made it sound like the father was ready to buy the poster until he realized it was Halo related.
Well, I wouldn't let my kid have a Halo poster -- not because I'm ignorant when it comes to videogames, but because I'd rather he keep his room classy and Halo is not that. My rooms have always been bare, and I've never understood why some people seem to think decking their walls out with a hundred posters makes it look better.
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