#1 Posted by Mushir (2389 posts) -

Anyone have any experience with this? My PS3 Fifa 12 disc has a few scratches on the back which results in the game crashing after about 5 minutes of play. I just heard on the latest bombcast that using toothpaste can fix scratched discs. Anyone have any experience with this? The disc is pretty fucked already so I'm not really losing anything if it doesn't work. Just wanted to ask if anyone has done this before and if it has worked for them before. And also if there is something I should/shouldn't do when attempting this.

#2 Edited by SexyToad (2760 posts) -

I tried with a Xbox 360 disc. Didn't work afterwards, but I'll say it was cleaner. Maybe it was my brand of toothpaste....

Edit: disc didn't work in the first place.

#3 Posted by ZombiePie (5672 posts) -

I thought this was a commonly accepted DIY technique for cleaning CDs. Anyways here's the WikiHow guide on how to do it. That said if the disc is really messed up your luck is slim.

Moderator
#4 Posted by Mushir (2389 posts) -

@ZombiePie said:

I thought this was a commonly accepted DIY technique for cleaning CDs. Anyways here's the WikiHow guide on how to do it. That said if the disc is really messed up your luck is slim.

Well, the game boots up just fine every time. It's just that whenever I start a match, it crashes and I have to manually restart the PS3. Thanks for the guide! I'll try it out and post the results.

#5 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11025 posts) -

I wonder how much the type of toothpaste matters.

Moderator
#6 Posted by ZombiePie (5672 posts) -

@Mushir said:

@ZombiePie said:

I thought this was a commonly accepted DIY technique for cleaning CDs. Anyways here's the WikiHow guide on how to do it. That said if the disc is really messed up your luck is slim.

Well, the game boots up just fine every time. It's just that whenever I start a match, it crashes and I have to manually restart the PS3. Thanks for the guide! I'll try it out and post the results.

If that doesn't work you might as well check out Ashen's video of various techniques related to dealing with CD lacerations:

Moderator
#7 Posted by SuperSambo (2865 posts) -

I did it once, however I used a toothbrush as well.

Upon looking on the disk afterwards, it came flooding to me how stupid I had been.

Spent £25 on the game, and before I had even played it it was completely destroyed with no chance of a refund!

#8 Edited by NTM (7379 posts) -

I guess when a game completely doesn't work, I personally would give it a chance, but if it worked, and only a few problems with it, I don't think I'd take the chance, it might ruin it altogether. I, guess unfortunately, as awkward as this sounds, don't have any CD's that don't work, but if I wish I did so I could try and fix it with toothpaste, also, I don't remember if I heard this was a way to fix it, but I might have. I know I've once heard that using toothpaste on your face gets zits away. Right.

#9 Posted by DeF (4893 posts) -

@Mushir said:

@ZombiePie said:

I thought this was a commonly accepted DIY technique for cleaning CDs. Anyways here's the WikiHow guide on how to do it. That said if the disc is really messed up your luck is slim.

Well, the game boots up just fine every time. It's just that whenever I start a match, it crashes and I have to manually restart the PS3. Thanks for the guide! I'll try it out and post the results.

You should put the toothpaste into your PS3 then. I don't see how the one thing relates to the other at all.

Online
#10 Posted by Subject2Change (2966 posts) -

Worked for my PS1 copy of RE2 (that I bought used). However PS3 discs and BluRays in general are treated with a scratch resistant material to prevent damage. You clearly mishandled your disk, treat your games better.

The method might not work with the PS3 discs due to the scratch resistant material. Straight up white tooth paste, no gel or nothing with a gel in it. Rub it in with your finger and wash it off with cold water. Let it dry for a bit and try.

#11 Posted by Mushir (2389 posts) -

@Subject2Change said:

Worked for my PS1 copy of RE2 (that I bought used). However PS3 discs and BluRays in general are treated with a scratch resistant material to prevent damage. You clearly mishandled your disk, treat your games better.

Well what happened was that my 1 year old brother ejected the disc from the system and hid it under the carpet and I found it like 3 days later.

#12 Posted by NinjaBerd (221 posts) -

Pretty much every movie rental place in my area will fix a PS3 disc for like a $1.50 if you bring it to them. So that might be an option as well. I'm not sure since I've never done it, but I hope their solution is better than just toothpaste.

#13 Posted by Fattony12000 (7416 posts) -

Ugh, use a lint free cloth and Pledge furniture polish, wipe from the inside of the disc to the outside in straight lines, rotating the disc with your other hand once a wipe is completed.

You are not going to be able to magically write damaged data or create more polycarbonate out of thin air by putting any amount of toothpaste on an optical disc. If a disc is so damaged that the gouge goes into the metal or dyed portions of a disc, then you done fucked up.

Other than that, you can get the disc skimmed, whereby a super (super) thin layer of plastic is removed from the disc, which can help with certain types of damage. However, the shitty home versions of this technique very rarely work.

#14 Posted by MonkeyKing1969 (2775 posts) -

@Mushir said:

Anyone have any experience with this? My PS3 Fifa 12 disc has a few scratches on the back which results in the game crashing after about 5 minutes of play. I just heard on the latest bombcast that using toothpaste can fix scratched discs. Anyone have any experience with this? The disc is pretty fucked already so I'm not really losing anything if it doesn't work. Just wanted to ask if anyone has done this before and if it has worked for them before. And also if there is something I should/shouldn't do when attempting this.

It is a long shot but if you still have a DVD/ Video Store in you area go to them and see if the perosn behind the counter will pop your disc into an industrial strength buffer. Sometimes libraries have industrial disc media buffers too. My library has a big machine to take the scratches off CD-music, DVDs, and games. It works really well unless you have a really pitted or cracked disc.

#15 Posted by Jimbo (9813 posts) -
@MooseyMcMan said:

I wonder how much the type of toothpaste matters.

You want something grainy/abrasive (you're basically using it as sandpaper to grind down the surface of the disc). If you use the smooth gel stuff you're just going to make the disc smell minty fresh.
Online
#16 Posted by chrissedoff (2108 posts) -

Use Brasso or Silvo. It works way better.

#17 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11025 posts) -

@Jimbo said:

@MooseyMcMan said:

I wonder how much the type of toothpaste matters.

You want something grainy/abrasive (you're basically using it as sandpaper to grind down the surface of the disc). If you use the smooth gel stuff you're just going to make the disc smell minty fresh.

Makes sense.

Moderator
#18 Posted by 234r2we232 (3181 posts) -

Remember to floss it and drench it in mouthwash afterwards.

#19 Posted by chocolaterhinovampire (1289 posts) -

I have never done it myself, but I hear it works wonders

#20 Posted by Mushir (2389 posts) -

So I did it and the disc still boots up. But the same problems arise. So it didn't really have any affect. Although I was very surprised that the disc still worked since I covered that badboy with a lot of toothpaste. On the plus side though, the disc is shiny as hell now, and doesn't smell too bad either!

#21 Posted by MAGZine (437 posts) -

@Subject2Change said:

Worked for my PS1 copy of RE2 (that I bought used). However PS3 discs and BluRays in general are treated with a scratch resistant material to prevent damage. You clearly mishandled your disk, treat your games better.

The method might not work with the PS3 discs due to the scratch resistant material. Straight up white tooth paste, no gel or nothing with a gel in it. Rub it in with your finger and wash it off with cold water. Let it dry for a bit and try.

This is my thought.

The reason why toothpaste worked well with DVDs is because it is a gentle abrasive (ALL toothpaste is, not a particular type... the point of toothpaste is that it is an abrasive), and that is what you wanted to remove scratches from disks. However, since there is now coating (since the disks are so high-density and are much more prone to dataloss due to a scratch), I would not think that this is an acceptable method of repair anymore.

#22 Posted by ManU_Fan10ne (662 posts) -

I used to do it with Paper Mario Wii--that thing had so many scratches even toothpaste couldnt save it...

#23 Edited by jakob187 (21671 posts) -

Solution: FIFA 13 comes out on the week of September 25th.

In all seriousness, I've tried the toothpaste thing and the peanut butter thing. They both suck. The only solution I've found was a $400 disc cleaning machine with specialized gels that we bought for the store. Even then, that thing is messy as hell...and the discs with work about seven out of ten times.

#24 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

i've done it before. it worked on xbox 360 disc. i don't know if there is a difference since it's blu-ray.

#25 Posted by PlasmaUK (7 posts) -

I used it on my FF7 disk because it was always stuttering when loading the CG movies and after that it worked fine but when I tried doing the same thing to my Splinter Cell disk my Xbox couldn't read it.

#26 Posted by Subject2Change (2966 posts) -

Have your parents replace it, since your little brother destroyed it.

#27 Posted by Funrush (70 posts) -

It works with DVD discs, in my experience. I remember getting a text-less, glitch-filled, Rocket Power Beach Bandits on the PS2 that didn't even make it past the start menu to work like new. However, I have no idea if it works for Blu-Ray discs, so I can't recommend it.

#28 Posted by iAmJohn (6120 posts) -

Dude how did you fuck up a PS3 disc? Aren't Blurays supposed to be way durable?

#29 Edited by dcgc (878 posts) -

I have used a banana for several discs and it cleaned the superficial scratches it had. Of course, deep scratches on the surface can't be erased.

#30 Posted by Twiggy199 (498 posts) -

@Mushir said:

Anyone have any experience with this? My PS3 Fifa 12 disc has a few scratches on the back which results in the game crashing after about 5 minutes of play. I just heard on the latest bombcast that using toothpaste can fix scratched discs. Anyone have any experience with this? The disc is pretty fucked already so I'm not really losing anything if it doesn't work. Just wanted to ask if anyone has done this before and if it has worked for them before. And also if there is something I should/shouldn't do when attempting this.

I did it on a PS1 game years ago, worked wonders. Just don't leave it on too long, that shits like wax for cars.

#31 Posted by TheCreamFilling (1225 posts) -

I bought Rainbow Six: Vegas from Gamestop once. Got home and discovered it wouldn't work because of a huge circle scratch on it. I heard of the mythical toothpaste trick and tried it and to my surprise it worked!

Funny part, a year later I went to sell the game back to Gamestop and they charged me five bucks as a repair fee.

#32 Posted by MordeaniisChaos (5730 posts) -

Buy a disc doctor or whatever they call them now. Any gamer who does a significant amount of disc based gaming should own one, and it's the best way to fix a disc, because it actually works, 99% of the time. It's not terribly pretty, but it works great. My Oblivion disc was a mess, just looked like someone went at it with sandpaper. One of those little spinny things made it run like brand new. Never had a loading issue with it again. Worked for tons of music CDs even, which tend to be more sensitive to that sort of thing.

@MonkeyKing1969: or, just buy a cheapo little handheld one, that'll do the trick too. They are about $20 last I checked, $30 for a self powered.

#33 Posted by thebunnyhunter (1423 posts) -

Always tried this on my old Final Fantasy games and Legend of Dragoon disk and it never worked (stupid cg openings), but i did buy a Disk Dr. and the disks started working again but i don't know if it is recommended for bluerays.

#34 Edited by gamesmaster320 (1 posts) -

!!!!!! I FOUND A NEW WAY TO FIX SCRATCHED DISCS!!!!!!! well at least i think I did. what u do is get some windowcleaner and spray on the disc and then u wipe it with kitchen roll and voila! its working. u might have to do it everytime but just try its a new discovery

#35 Posted by Cold_Wolven (2220 posts) -

I thought Bluray discs were suppose to have an extra layer of scratch resistance, it must have taken some serious scratching on that game.

#36 Posted by tourgen (4500 posts) -

I've used a buffing wheel and pretty standard buffing compound to clean up scratched DVDs. They look new after about 15-20secs. If the scratches are too deep though you're boned.

#37 Edited by paulwade1984 (478 posts) -

The best thing to use is brasso. You want to use an Abrasive (thats the key word). rub it on in circular motion with microfibre cloth and leave for 5 mins. then take it off with water and a microfibre cloth. I've only had success once.

The direction of the scratch is important. If the scratch is from the center to the outside, then the ps3 can compensate for the missing data and there won't be a problem.

However if the scratch follows the contours of the disc then too much data will be missing and a crash will occur inevitably.

Take it to Game and trade it in. That's what I do. Don't tell anybody.

#38 Posted by rachelepithet (1391 posts) -

My scratch isn't even a scratch (it feels smooth, actually just looks like a discoloration) and its a full circular ring around somewhere in the middle part of the Gears of War 3 DVD. It happened from my 360 falling over while the disc was running. Now it loads to the menus, but doesn't play certain maps, and won't install fom the dash past 30%.

#39 Edited by Darji (5294 posts) -

just do this

#40 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -

Man, the heck did you do to get a blu-ray unreadable? CD's and DVD's scratch easy but Blu-rays are scratch resistant.

#41 Posted by handlas (2682 posts) -

Didn't read thru all these responses but it's something I tried with a completely unplayable disk and it worked. It was too scratched up to play. My mistake for moving my 360 while it was spinning. Put some toothpaste (had a grainy feel) on it and rubbed it around and it worked afterwards.

#42 Edited by Zekhariah (697 posts) -

@mushir: Your much more likely to end up with a functioning disc if you take it into somewhere that has a real commercial re-surfacing machine. Anywhere that rents dvds and blu-rays should have access to one. Maybe some game stores do as well.

I've played around with trying different methods (I was experimenting with burned discs and reading the bit error rates for giggles). It never really seemed like the home grown solutions were fine enough even with CDs. And a blu-ray would probably be even worse. (they have comparable durability to CD due to better error correction and a hard coat).

#43 Edited by Kandycane2029 (511 posts) -

@gamesmaster320: I heard of doing that during the PS1 era, but haven't heard anything positive about the results.

To contribute: I used the Toothpaste/dishsoap method for years. Always worked great as long as the discs weren't too bad. Never tried a disc doctor, though I've wanted to. I think the methods may really depend on the disc itself. I've had it work on discs from every generation, but it has varying results.