Posted by FluxWaveZ (19353 posts) 9 months, 22 days ago

Poll: VGX 2013: Did Joel McHale make the show better? (1001 votes)

Yes 48%
No 52%

So this seems to be somewhat of a divisive opinion regarding the VGX 2013. In your opinion, did Joel McHale's presence make the show better with his fantastic jokes, or did he make the show that much worse and maybe Geoff should have hosted the whole thing himself?

#1 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4825 posts) -

Yeah he did. @themanwithnoplan nailed it on the head. Joel has been trying to get Geoff Keighley to unwind all night and he's such an uptight wanker it made for delightful streaming.

#2 Posted by The_Reflection (249 posts) -

Joel was a small point of light in a rather large shitfest.

#3 Posted by EthanML (455 posts) -

I didn't want any of it but Twitter has been nothing but a gigantic stream of hate aimed at this guy from all comers, I've yet to see anything positive, so I'm surprised to see this.

#4 Posted by PsychoPenguin (175 posts) -

It depends on what you think the show is supposed to be. If you want a serious award show that celebrates the games industry, him mocking everything ruins that. If you want a show that is terrible and mocks itself for being terrible then he certainly provides that.

#5 Posted by Animasta (14698 posts) -

This is the only one I've watched so maybe it was way worse last year but I thought it was reasonably entertaining, and he was one of the best parts (the other best parts were loiter squad and mega64)

#6 Edited by Roboculus92 (520 posts) -

Most of Joel's jokes fell flat but I still think he helped make it more interesting than it would have been with just Geoff.

#7 Posted by Coafi (1489 posts) -

I think he was paired poorly with Geoff who just wanted to showcase games. Joel just wanted to make dumb jokes.

#8 Posted by Nubikal (107 posts) -

When he went off-script, yes.

#9 Posted by Icicle7x3 (1182 posts) -

Joel got better toward the end of the show, but it was a rough start.

#10 Edited by froesti (101 posts) -

NOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOO NEIN NEIN NEIN BITTE NICHT

#11 Posted by Flappy (2273 posts) -

Bring back Joel and The Game every year.

Please?

#12 Posted by Milkman (16843 posts) -

Hell no. He actively made it worse. Geoff should have hosted the show himself or they should have gotten someone who actually...you know, likes video games. Do those exist?

#13 Posted by notdavid (839 posts) -

The show was fucking terrible, and Joel brought the appropriate amount of acknowledgement of that fact. I laughed the first time he pointed out Geoff's layers. Maybe not the tenth time, but who am I to judge?

#14 Posted by BigJeffrey (5021 posts) -

Better, but Geoff should of just hosted it.

#15 Posted by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

Complete garbage. Worst VGA/X I've seen.

#16 Edited by Baltimore (275 posts) -

Joel might have been ok if not for the painful and cruel digs against gaming and gamers every minute. He was down right an utter asshole. I've heard nicer conversations on Xbox Live.

#17 Edited by TheHT (11365 posts) -

He made it awful in the beginning, and then made it slightly more bearable at the end.

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#18 Posted by Berserker976 (363 posts) -

Is this a joke? he ruined the entire show.

Picture the show if just Geoff was hosting. There were developers there, there could have been discussions that weren't interrupted every 5 seconds by a snide remark or dismissive comment about gaming.

I get people liking him ironically or whatever but come on people, he made the show nearly unbearable.

#19 Posted by Doctorchimp (4076 posts) -

Joel seemed like the only who knew the show was a shit show from the start.

#20 Edited by Weltal (2274 posts) -

I think it would have been terrible either way, but Joel made it into the horror show it was, and for the first time I actually watched the VGA's all the way through. So a win for them I guess.

#21 Posted by face15 (1302 posts) -

It was about a 70/30 split on me wanting to die when he spoke and thinking he was pretty funny.

#22 Posted by shinjin977 (761 posts) -

Why have no one booked Elijah Woods for these things yet? He is a huge gamer and he is extremely nice. Why not him?

#23 Edited by OrwellHuxZam (124 posts) -

He seemed bored most of the time. Granted, the show deserved that kind of response, but him acknowledging that didn't make it better.

#24 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (3444 posts) -

First VGA I watched from start to finish. Just couldn't turn away from this train wreck of a show.

#25 Posted by Animasta (14698 posts) -
@milkman said:

Hell no. He actively made it worse. Geoff should have hosted the show himself or they should have gotten someone who actually...you know, likes video games. Do those exist?

Liking games does not preclude them being good at presenting about them. In fact he seemed to like games (he was interested in Dying Light and No Man's Sky)

Also lots of people also shit talked Aisha Tyler and she likes games too.

#26 Posted by Kraznor (1578 posts) -

Without him this show would have been incredibly dry. Yes, it wasn't always funny, but at least it wasn't just a three-hour wank fest about how awesome games are. I mean, it was almost that, but at least it was willing to poke fun at itself a bit? Major trade-up from Snoop Dogg announcing the Best RPGs of the year and Jessica Alba mumbling something about playing Mario before announcing a Dark Souls trailer. This was more honest, and McHale fit that awkward, internetty thing quite well.

#27 Edited by Demoskinos (14877 posts) -

Nah, dude just seemed rude....and very drunk. He brought down what was otherwise a decent show.

#28 Edited by FriendlyPhoenix (424 posts) -

For the show they were putting on, Joel kept the entire thing from falling apart at the seams. I do think Keighly should have been the sole host, but that would really only have worked if they had designed it in an entirely different, more traditional award show fashion(which they really should have done, because holy shit this thing was a disaster)

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#29 Posted by TheBluthCompany (389 posts) -
This sums up the whole event in my mind

#30 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4825 posts) -

@berserker976 said:

Is this a joke? he ruined the entire show.

Picture the show if just Geoff was hosting. There were developers there, there could have been discussions that weren't interrupted every 5 seconds by a snide remark or dismissive comment about gaming.

I get people liking him ironically or whatever but come on people, he made the show nearly unbearable.

I don't like Joel ironically. I love Joel because he's a witty bastard. You either get Nice Joel or Douche Joel. Both are good Joels, but one is certainly funnier than the other.

Geoff had a shit-show on his hands and he got Douche Joel as a result. I could not be more pleased.

#31 Posted by csl316 (8760 posts) -

When he read the scripted jokes, it was kind of a bummer. But him and Geoff bantering was pretty ok at times.

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#32 Posted by jclane (337 posts) -

Something something diaper joke something something I'm a gamer something something.

Good lord.

#33 Posted by face15 (1302 posts) -

@animasta: People shit talked Aisha Tyler? I thought the general consensus was that she's really good on the Ubisoft press conferences. I certainly think so.

#34 Edited by DeadpanCakes (926 posts) -

Not sure, but I'm fairly certain he didn't make it worse.

Edit: Naah, after reading half the posts in this thread, I've changed my mind. He was pretty bad. I didn't really care that much though, 'cause I wasn't expecting much. I was expecting negative-much, and that's pretty much what we got.

#35 Edited by AMyggen (3131 posts) -

Nope. The show fucking sucked, and he made it worse.

#36 Edited by Milkman (16843 posts) -

@animasta said:
@milkman said:

Hell no. He actively made it worse. Geoff should have hosted the show himself or they should have gotten someone who actually...you know, likes video games. Do those exist?

Liking games does not preclude them being good at presenting about them. In fact he seemed to like games (he was interested in Dying Light and No Man's Sky)

Also lots of people also shit talked Aisha Tyler and she likes games too.

I'm definitely not one of the people who shit talked Aisha Tyler. She would have been better choice.

What I mean by someone who actually likes games is someone who isn't going to make the same "gamers are such shut-in nerds" every 3 minutes. I want these to be like an actual celebration of games. Imagine if half of the Oscars was dedicated to telling the audience what a bunch of gross weirdos they are, that's what these are every year. Geoff seems to be trying really hard but this did not work one bit.

#37 Posted by crusader8463 (14422 posts) -

He ruined the show. His smartass remarks all the time and constantly interrupting was so bad. This show, minus the shitty music at the end, is a perfect format if next time they just get Geoff and some industry people who are good on camera and stop trying to get celebrities to poorly pretend they know video games. Anyone into games can tell they are faking it a mile away and it just makes it painful.

#38 Posted by Popogeejo (615 posts) -

Joel is everything that shitty award show deserves. he didn't care, he didn't seem to like it for the most part but he did seem to enjoy joking with Tim Schaffer and No mans Sky. Some of his running jokes were shit (adult diaper), some were good (not giving a fuck about twitter comments and regarding the abuse he was going to get from the internet) and a few were in poor taste (re: gender). Over all though, fitting for what the show was.

#39 Posted by Animasta (14698 posts) -

@face15 said:

@animasta: People shit talked Aisha Tyler? I thought the general consensus was that she's really good on the Ubisoft press conferences. I certainly think so.

really good? most people thought she was decent at best. Plenty of people shit talked her first press conference, enough that she posted a confrontational facebook post about how she does, in fact, like games.

#40 Posted by Xavtron (103 posts) -

It was a mixed bag for me. When he interrupted developers talking about their games it didn't go down so great and at times he was noticeably unhappy to be there. But when off script or pointing out some of the more ridiculous facets of the show it was pretty funny.

Also a lot of people seem to be forgetting that overall, the show is not a respectful celebration of the year in games, its a show on spike that was fraught with ads within the telecast, cutting to whatever ridiculousness was happening outside and guest appearance by fucking pewdiepie. Given that, how much did Joel really have to work with?

#41 Posted by HatKing (5973 posts) -

I'm so fucking sick of the cynicism that plagues this industry. It was refreshing to see somebody trying to laugh for a change. The problem was that each time he tried to make fun, Geoff shot it down like the show would end if people enjoyed themselves. Hey, asshat, it's an "awards" show. It's not about your fucking scoop. Let these people enjoy themselves. All the whining on Twitter coming from industry people is driving me insane. Why do you people do this? You get no fucking enjoyment out of it.

#42 Posted by mrcraggle (1941 posts) -

It was pretty terrible all around. The few highlights there were, were easily outdone by the general shittiness of it all. The show felt so rushed and unrehearsed. Unprofessional Friday's is put together better. Joel seemed to come more into his own once the GoT game was announced but it was just super awkward before then and most of the jokes sucked and just fell flat. It also felt like Geoff was babysitting Joel, constantly explaining games like the Witcher 3 and Titanfall. I do think that Joel gave the show the level of care it deserved which is just fucking the lowest. I like Joel on Community and the Soup but his style of humour really didn't work here and he clearly isn't that into gaming culture. If they want a celebrity to host along side Geoff, then get Elijah Wood. Tim and Geoff both claimed that was super into games.

#43 Posted by DonChipotle (2768 posts) -

I liked how he always asked the devs when the game was coming out and how only one of them answered him. Once he decided he didn't give a shit he was the only thing that was exciting to watch because everything else about the VGXs was a chore.

#44 Posted by SirOptimusPrime (2011 posts) -

The fact that he went in totally not giving a shit makes it that much better, mostly because I - like him - do not care at all about VGX.

He was the host I could relate with more. Also, video games suck.

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#45 Posted by Ares42 (2688 posts) -

Without him the show would've been a fart in the wind. I don't understand how anyone even conceptualized that show. I'm just guessing he got presented with a "video game award show" job and then when he showed up he realized what a shit-show it was gonna be. Did he make it better ? not really, but there wasn't really much to ruin there either.

#46 Posted by pweidman (2339 posts) -

No. He made an already terrible show worse, and unwatchable for me. He came across as obnoxiously arrogant, rude, and extremely disinterested.

#47 Posted by Popogeejo (615 posts) -

@milkman: I think he likes games (he seemed really into No Mans Sky) but was clearly aware that this show is always ripped apart by gamers. Seriously, when was the last time these awards got a large, popular reception? Never. they're always shit. We know it, they know it, he knows it.

#48 Posted by bybeach (4844 posts) -

I did not get to see the awards, and perhaps I am too old for the kind of presentation it was allowed. I don't know, it seems to me video games ought to take itself a bit more seriously these days and less of the antics and such. There was some very good material for Nominees, but even the name Spike TV tells me the approach may be narrow.. Still, I am not talking about Danica Patrick serious, just something celebratory about some pretty good, intelligent and sophisticated efforts made.

#49 Posted by Rejizzle (323 posts) -

Bad jokes are one thing, but Joel just seemed disinterested for most of the show. There were times when I though a kinda lame joke could've been salvaged if he acted the least bit invested in the show.

#50 Edited by TurboMan (7559 posts) -

I'm copy and pasting what I said in the other thread:

For everyone that hates Joel Mchale:

He plays a Snarky Asshole when he hosts The Soup. If you don't want your host to be a Snarky Asshole, don't hire the Snarky Asshole that hosts The Soup.

That is all.