E.
If it doesn't play well, or slow or wonky, its not fun playing it therefore defeating the entire point of videogames.
Fun.
What is a dissapointing game to you or me might be the best thing since sliced bread to someone else.
I would rather argue with a person about a game's quality on a point by point basis. You can't simply dismiss any of the above just by themselves without hearing the reasoning behind them. All of the above can have merit depending on actual situation. So I would say none of those are pathetic in and of themselves.
And any excuse is pathetic if it is not backed up by a thought out argument.
@TaliciaDragonsong said:
E. If it doesn't play well, or slow or wonky, its not fun playing it therefore defeating the entire point of videogames. Fun.
I disagree. Games like XIII, which is a mediocre shooter at best, more than makes up for it with it's brilliant art design.
D. That's the only one that I've never used.
C, just can't stand it. And i still stand by the fact that E.Y.E was shit.
All of them are valid except the argument that it was made by some small developer who programmed the entire game on a bootstrapped amiga whilst living in a cardboard box, I don't care what who or what the developers are, all that matters is the product if it's no good it's no good.
Other: "They were going for "fun" and accessibility, that's totally legit"
Can't stand people who defend a bad game just because two guys made it in their basement. I mean, bravo for pouring your heart and soul into making this game all by yourself, I applaud you for that. Just don't expect me to applaud your terrible game.
Hipster or not, that statement can totally make sense sometimes. I've been told that I didn't get Mirror's Edge and Dead Space and Mass Effect and S.T.A.L.K.E.R in the past, when i hated those games with a passion, and now they're all all-time favorite for me because I did not get them in the past, and only after trying each game literally 4-5 times did I get the pacing and vibe and design choices, and kick ass at them.What about the hipster style. "You just don't get it"
@AhmadMetallic said:
@Swoxx said:Hipster or not, that statement can totally make sense sometimes. I've been told that I didn't get Mirror's Edge and Dead Space and Mass Effect and S.T.A.L.K.E.R in the past, when i hated those games with a passion, and now they're all all-time favorite for me because I did not get them in the past, and only after trying each game literally 4-5 times did I get the pacing and vibe and design choices, and kick ass at them. Mirror's Edge IMO is the most legit "you don't get it" game out there.What about the hipster style. "You just don't get it"
Same here. I fucking hated Metro 2033 with a passion when I bought it, thought it was a waste. Couple of months later, picked it up again. once it "clicked" for me, it became one of my favorite shooters ever.
@Chop said:
D I guess The rest of those are completely legit excuses, depending on the person. D is often legit too but I feel like it's the only one not based purely on opinion.
I think the worst reason would be because its a platform exclusive. That's just being a douchy fanboy. Aside from maybe D all these other ones seem kinda subjective and valid if you enjoy the game.
Depends. Ive played games that were classed as absolutely shit but had an enjoyable time doing so. If someone actually likes a shit games then how can it be an excuse? I love Dead Island (even although my lvl 37, 96 % save is fucked) but many other think its shit because its broken. Does that mean its a shitty game? I love Dead Rising, everyone else I know thinks it's shit because they don't like the way it works...etc.
"You think it's bad because it's different and unique. Go back to COD !"
Yeah, the "sheep" call out is about as cheap and meaningless as it gets."You think it's bad because it's different and unique. Go back to COD !"
As Patrick said, what is video games.
Really now, all of these are certain factors. You may take them into consideration or not. I don't like it when people try to defend games, period. If they like it, fine. But don't cram your opinions down other people's throats.
@Swoxx said:
What about the hipster style. "You just don't get it"
This was the first thing I thought of, too. Basically it avoids any counter-argument and puts the onus on the critic. It's the rebutting equivalent of "because, I said so."
And XIII is a very playable and fun shooter, I played the heck out of it on the gamecube.@TaliciaDragonsong said:
E. If it doesn't play well, or slow or wonky, its not fun playing it therefore defeating the entire point of videogames. Fun.I disagree. Games like XIII, which is a mediocre shooter at best, more than makes up for it with it's brilliant art design.
B. Saying that Breech or whatever XBLA online shooter is good for the price is a lame excuse when you can buy triple A title from yesteryear for the same price that is going to be much better. I got BF Bad Company 1 for €5 and people were still playing that online. CoD4 MW1 was €20 On Demand a while back which is a much better deal than Breech for €15 and there are still plenty of people playing MW1.
I hate it when a game with poor gameplay, non existent story and repetitive fetch quests gets a free pass just because it has a loot system. I found Dead Island so boring I could not bring myself to play it even though I bought it brand new. Borderlands was a little better as there was some enemy variation which kept things somewhat interesting.
Oh, god, I had one that hadn't been posted and now it's GONE!
No, wait. I was just going to repeat someone else and say "You're playing it wrong" means I no longer want to talk to you about this video game. The idea that there is a "wrong" way to experience someone's medium is just fucking BROKEN, and it implies bad design by the developer. Of course, figuring out the developer's intent can sometimes avoid goofy situations and let you enjoy the game more, but that doesn't mean you're doing it wrong at all, that means the developer probably shouldn't have hidden the part where your character has actually always been a SWAT gunner.
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