What does 'Colluctatio Cervus Reperio Excellantia' mean?

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#1  Edited By GunnBjorn

Hi Giant Bombers, 
 
As you might have seen in the GOTY videos, luchadeer seems to have a Motto/Battle Cry now: 
 
''Colluctatio Cervus Reperio Excellantia.''
  
It's in frickin' Latin; I don't understand any of it! I tried Google Translate, but that didn't made any sense.
 
Any guesses?
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#2  Edited By StarvingGamer

Wrestling Deer Finds Excellence

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#3  Edited By RTSlord
@StarvingGamer said:
" Wrestling Deer Finds Excellence "
that
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#4  Edited By GunnBjorn
@RTSlord said:
" @StarvingGamer said:
" Wrestling Deer Finds Excellence "
that"

Yes, that much I understand. But it's quite literal.
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#5  Edited By Feser

I thought it was pretty prima facie. Duh. Kids these days don't know any latin.

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#6  Edited By GunnBjorn
@Feser said:
"

I thought it was pretty prima facie. Duh. Kids these days don't know any latin.

"

Hey, I'm a man of humble origins (age thirty-three), who simply never studied Latin. I'm not a clerical figure, physician or scientist.
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#7  Edited By Video_Game_King

Wait, you can suddenly have random Latin sayings on Giant Bomb, now? I need to get in on that. Give me a few minutes.
 
Got it: rex omnia novit. The King knows all.

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#8  Edited By Vinny_Says

Wrestling deer (discovers) excellence
 
french Repere which is to find or discover....

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#9  Edited By RandomHero666

Probably a spell from Harry Potter

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#10  Edited By cooljammer00

My Latin is rusty as hell but we never even learned about Luchadeers in class. 
 
Thanks for nothing, Magister O'Neill.

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#11  Edited By dudacles

I'll be impressed once they start using Ancient Greek.

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#12  Edited By SammydesinasNL

Nescio.
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#13  Edited By AlexW00d

Ave. 

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#14  Edited By Jeust

I think this is because of the New World Order, or whatever it is called.
 
Ah, Illuminati. 

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#15  Edited By GunnBjorn
@dudacles said:

"I'll be impressed once they start using Ancient Greek. "


How about a real challenge: In Cuneiform and Hieroglyphic script.
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#16  Edited By Gaff

How about this one:

De gustibus non est disputandem.

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@Gaff said:
" How about this one: De gustibus non est disputandem. "
De gustibus non disputandum est.  There's no arguing with taste (roughly).
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#18  Edited By Gaff
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@Gaff said:
" How about this one: De gustibus non est disputandem. "
De gustibus non disputandum est.  There's no arguing with taste (roughly).
You don't say. Hmmm. Food for thought, perchance?
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#19  Edited By NarcolepticBat
@RandomHero666 said:
" Probably a spell from Harry Potter "
Its a bit long for a spell eh? lol. I cant imagine harry going up against voldemort with that one
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#20  Edited By Dany

Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

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#21  Edited By buzz_clik

All I remember from Latin in school is "Grumio est in culina."

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#22  Edited By dudacles
@GunnBjorn said:
" @dudacles said:

"I'll be impressed once they start using Ancient Greek. "

How about a real challenge: In Cuneiform and Hieroglyphic script. "
True, though I understand neither Cuneiform nor Hieroglyphs. :p
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#23  Edited By Example1013

I never took Latin in school, but I took 4 years of French, including 4th semester French at college, so don't look down your nose at me!

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#24  Edited By Kierkegaard
@cooljammer00 said:
" My Latin is rusty as hell but we never even learned about Luchadeers in class.  Thanks for nothing, Magister O'Neill. "
Yeah, Magistra Hayes only taught me 23 different ways to say kill. Now GiantBomb has outdone another bit of academia. 
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#25  Edited By mutha3
@Dany said:
" Nothing is true. Everything is permitted. "
Ah, now THAT'S a language I do understand.
 
Even though the characters have the most butchered pronunciation of the phrase, ever.
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#26  Edited By Fishstick

Memento mori

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#27  Edited By dougmansion

I only know "Per Ardua Ad Astra" and "Repensum Est Canicula" from Sword of the Stars, but I kinda feel that second one is all I need to know.

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#28  Edited By Lepton

 BTW, Giant Bomb Crew, that Latin is totally wrong.  You can't just plug some words into an online translator and expect that it will return correct Latin grammar and syntax.   Just like you can't generally plug words into a Spanish translation site and get proper Spanish grammar and syntax from it.
 
Colluctatio is a noun , not an adjective, meaning "a wrestling or a struggle" 
 
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0059:entry%3Dcolluctatio  
 
Reperio is the first person singular present indicative of  "reperio, reperire" meaning "to find again, find, discover"  but here it's as if you said "I discover" rather than "he, she or it discovers" or reperit. 
 http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0060:entry%3Dreperio 
 http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/go.php?T1=reperio&imageField.x=9&imageField.y=11&D1=9&H1=109 
 
And it's also Excellentia, not Excellantia 
 
Excellentia.  Noun of the first declension.  Accusative case for direct object of the verb "reperio" makes it "Excellentiam", accusative singular.
 
Should be more like 
 
"Cervus Luctandus Excellentiam Reperit" 
 
Gerundive of "luctor" for wrestling. Adjectives follow their nouns.  Verbs generally occur at the end of a sentence. 
 
And that's your Latin lesson for the day.     

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#29  Edited By dudacles

You know, I just started thinking about this, and this doesn't appear to be correct Latin to me. 
 
I actually believe it's supposed to be "Luctandus cervus reperit Excellentiam."
 
"Reperio" is first person singular of "reperire", whereas "cervus" is obviously third person singular. Similarly, "excellentia" is female, as far as I know, and its accusative form (since it follows the first declension) should therefore be "excellentiam" as opposed to "excellentia." "Colluctatio" isn't a verb either, actually referring to the act of wrestling rather than forming the adjective to a "wrestling" subject.
 
Right?
 

@lepton:


Edit: holy shit. Sorry Lepton, I didn't see your post there. You are absolutely right, I think.
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#30  Edited By Lepton

Cool, a fellow sufferer at the hands of a Latin education.  I don't know that "luctandus" is totally right.  I don't remember much of anything about the proper use of the gerundive, but it's much better than it was originally.  In a similar vein, there may be a better word choice than "reperio, reperire", but I didn't go that far. And of course, sentences were often strangely constructed in Latin, so a real expert in the Latin language might suggest a whole different set of words or constructs than this simple formulation.

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#31  Edited By melcene

This thread just makes me think of this.  I think every WoW server has a guild named this.  I have no idea who the people are in the picture below.  

 
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@Dany said:
" Nothing is true. Everything is permitted. "
.This.
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#33  Edited By Nasar7
@buzz_clik: Cambridge Latin for the lulz.
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#34  Edited By KaosAngel

I think it was a ship from the 1600s.

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#35  Edited By dudacles
@lepton said:
" Cool, a fellow sufferer at the hands of a Latin education.  I don't know that "luctandus" is totally right.  I don't remember much of anything about the proper use of the gerundive, but it's much better than it was originally.  In a similar vein, there may be a better word choice than "reperio, reperire", but I didn't go that far. And of course, sentences were often strangely constructed in Latin, so a real expert in the Latin language might suggest a whole different set of words or constructs than this simple formulation. "
I actually thought of something just now. 
 
The translation is obviously supposed to be "Wrestling deer finds excellence", as was pointed out by other users. First of all, I don't think the gerundivum is the right form here. I think it actually ought rather be a participium praesens. At least, that would depend on what Drew or whoever thought of the sentence meant. 
 
It the sentence is supposed to mean "Deer finds excellence while wrestling", I think the sentence ought to look like this: "Cervus luctans excellentiam reperit."
 
However, it makes more sense to me if the "wrestling" part of the sentence serves to further explain which particular type of deer it is, namely a "wrestling deer", much like there are, say, "firing ranges" (though this is hardly a good example.) I'm not exactly sure what this form of the adjective is that essentially ties to it a noun in a single, specific expression (English is not my first language, and education of said language is poor here) but clearly "wrestling" can be categorised as one. I'm actually sort of in doubt as to what to do with this. "Cervus qui colluctatio [est] excellentiam reperit" seemed fitting, but I'm not sure. What say you?
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#36  Edited By Lepton

Yeah, I had some of the same thoughts but without the specificity as to the grammar.  An adjectival clause is properly more appropriate as you have stated.  "Deer that wrestles" as opposed to "Wrestling deer".  Also I wouldn't used "reperio"  since it means finds or discovers.  I think they want something more like seeks.  One could have used something as simple as "peto, petere" which is kind of a first year of Latin word. 
 
http://catholic.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/lookdown.pl?seek

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#37  Edited By sweep  Moderator
@buzz_clik said:
" All I remember from Latin in school is "Grumio est in culina." "
Oh that Grumio. Always in the damn kitchen!
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#38  Edited By Phished0ne

Reminds me of the old rhyme my dad use to say from his years in college for being a paralegal. I'm sure a lot of people know it, say it along with me!
 
Latin's a dead language
dead as dead can be
first it killed the romans
and now it's killing me!