What is a Bad Framerate for you?

Crysis 2 just got me thinking. What is a 'bad framerate' for you? Like there's lots of CoD players who turn up their noses at Battlefield's 30 FPS (on consoles of course). When reading comments on games with a locked framerate of 30 FPS, there's always that one guy saying 'framerate is terrible'. Having played many games below required specs on PC as a kid, a bad framerate is below 20 FPS for me. Probably more precisely, below 24/26 FPS (that's what TV shows are/were at).
 
How about you? What's a disturbingly bad framerate to you?

Depends on the game. I like my racing games and FPS at 60+, but for games like Civ 5 or Total War games I'm good with anything over 20.

It really depends; only if it's noticeable I guess, which can sometimes be as high as 30 FPS.

For some reason, I never really notice bad frame rates. OK, I notice them on my computer, sometimes, but that's more due to my computer being shit.

If it's a really slow game, I can be fine with 20+. If it's something fast, however, 30 is the minimum.

A bad framerate is one that stutters.

Below 25 is breaking balls and uteri.

Although low frame rate is bad, so is super high frame rate. Ever played sonic at 120 FPS? Its pretty messed up.

Torchlight on XBLA.  That's a bad framerate.

" Why would anyone answer anything below 60?  A bad framerate is anything that stutters. To say that 30 fps is bad is idiotic "

If it's a game where a high and stable framerate matters, like shooters and racers, a steady 60 is essential. BC2 on consoles does pretty well for being 30 though, I must say.
 
But if you're going to give me 30, you better goddamn give me 1280x720 with a stable 30.

If you give me a stable 30, I'm totally happy. If it's chugging when I'm casting spells, start glowing, or something explodes, then we've got an issue.

It actually depends on the game for me, as there are just certain genres I'm used to producing a higher framerate than others. But as a general rule of thumb, anything below 30 is noticeable, anything below 25 is annoying, anything below 20 is bad and anything below 15 is unplayable. 

It's not so much a matter of the number as it is how well it maintains it. I'd rather take a game that runs smoothly at 30 than a game that's sometimes at 60, but is all stutter-y and twitchy. 

Anything that visually stutters, so roughly mid-20s fps and lower.

If the framerate makes the game harder to play, it's bad; anything other than that is okay for me. So it really just depends on the game.

It really depends on the game. As long as it stays at 30 fps or above then I am fine. As long as that speed is consistent and doesn't stutter, then I usually don't have a problem with it. The exception to this would be if I am playing a twitch reflexes type of game then I want it to be locked at 60 fps at all times. I don't play a lot of those kind of games, though.

Depends on game, but yeah below 60 annoys me if i am playing a pc game.

Below 60 is bad.  

I'd agree with you, anything bellow like 25 is too low. But honestly, its only cause I'm kinda desperate. Should be like nothing below 30 or even 60 FPS

When frames get into the single-digit number. I'm generally oblivious to anything above that. Anyways, a bad framerate doesn't bother me as much as bad textures or bad pop-in because those are a lot more noticeable to me.  
 
I'm also oblivious to screen tear. I know what it's supposed to be, but I've never, ever noticed it in a game, even ones that were supposedly plagued with it.

Below 30 in general, but I only have a problem if the framerate is inconsistent. A while back I would get between 20-60 playing Oblivion which caused an unbearable amount of stutter. I would have been fine with a solid 20 or 25.
 
Edit: And on consoles I just don't care. Bad framerates on a PC make me anxious, like my computer is behaving poorly. With console games I can just shrug it off.

unless its jumping up and down I never notice it. 
 
 
 
but I would rather have a solid capped 30 FPS then a inconsistent 60fps.   
 
just try and keep it as solid as possible.  no random 10fps + drops.

i can play almost everything at 30 fps without trouble but they need to be stable 
i don't like when games suddenly become a slideshow

When it chugs

Anything slower than film (24 frames per second), is where it gets bad for me. 

I'm usually fine with anything that's 30+ fps. I can manage with 25 fps but anything below that can make playing the game a chore.

Anything below 60; for years I was fine with anything above 30, but a new PC with Crossfire'd GPUs has ruined me.
 
It's amazing how fast a new PC can turn you into a snob; I'm having a lot of "How do you play at that rate?" moments every time I look at my roommates laptop, which I never noticed in the past.

The number is less important than the consistency. There's nothing inherently wrong with being locked at 30, as long as it maintains 30 the entire time. Obviously, 60 is preferable.

Anything below film frame rate (24 fps) bugs the shit out of me. I say if it looks like a 1960's stop-motion Christmas special, then something's wrong.

Less than 30 is when I can notice it most and when it starts to bother me. At 30 it looks smooth, or at least smooth enough for me to feel good about it.  At 15-20 it is still playable, but I get bothered by the thought of something big happening and having the game dip below 10 or so, where I hate it. 
 
That said, games like CoD and Burnout look so damn good at 60FPS, that I obviously would pick that if you asked me what I prefer (duh). 
 
When I play computer games (i have a med-low comp by my standards) I aim for settings that will get me to 45 or so at the lowest. I don't need super detailed shadows as much as I need a good framerate. I aim for 60, but that then affords that when stuff gets crazy it will only drop to 40 or so. Least that is my hope.

I prefer 60, will accept 30, and anything less than 30 is bad.

If it's on console, anything below 30 bothers me. If it's on PC, I can deal with 15-20 FPS if it means the game will look significantly better.

" Torchlight on XBLA.  That's a bad framerate. "

Having a high-end PC makes me cringe at anything under 60. I didn't used to be that way, but now anything under 45 is bad, and anything under 30 is borderline unplayable for me.
 
 
Also, no v-sync. It looks slightly worse (occasionally), but the noticeable input lag kills me.

Like mentioned by someone previously it's only when it's below 24ish when it becomes noticeable or irritating. This is especially so when there's a variable framerate and it's jumping between 24 to 30 or 60 all the time. A 24 fps locked framerate is still completely playable for me.

Less than 40.

25fps is the absolute minimum for me.

If I notice a stutter or slow down then it drives me nuts. Noticed it happen a ton while playing red dead in certain areas.  
 
My favourite experience with frame rate drops was with playing inFAMOUS. When you looked out over the water the game was silky smooth, then as you panned the camera around to face the city you could see the framerate slowing to a crawl then speeding back up again as you faced the water.

" @MildMolasses said:

" Why would anyone answer anything below 60?  A bad framerate is anything that stutters. To say that 30 fps is bad is idiotic "

While I agree with that, I've seen lots of comments on how 30 FPS is gamebreakingly bad. That's why I'm so curious. I can deal with framerates dropping anywhere between 20-30 FPS when under heavy duty, as long as the game runs a smooth 30 FPS most of the time.  Other's seem to have a problem with framerates dropping under 60 FPS, which I find outlandish. "

Less than 30, but keeping the frame rate liked in/consistent is more important IMO.

Anything over 30 is fine as long as it is consistent. It's the stuttering that drives me mad.

Saints Row 2...PC...and Oblivion some 4 years ago.  I still wake up with cold sweats.

Under 30, because that's the point when you start to get some stuttering.

Usually <30 but for quicker games like FPS and Arcade Racing games I prefer to have >45.  But now that I pretty much strictly play on PC and max every game I have at 60, it sucks to see something around 30.

Less than 40ish starts to bother me. I don't notice screen tearing at all though.

lower than 30 frames is bad. it's only bad when i notice that it's a bad framerate.