What is the biggest mind**** ever in a videogame? In you opinion?

You know, the parts of a videogame which are just so damn insane and crazy that it leaves mark in your memory. Such as the famous ones like MGS's Psycho mantis fight.

Or to newer videogames such as Fallout 3's point lookout part. which is my favorite! (insanely awesome moment that I will not spoil.) or certain plot twists which blow your mind! (think of some, because I refuse to spoil any at all to anyone here.)

Honestly, in my opinion, the biggest mind**** to ever happen in a videogame had to have been star ocean 3's *twist* this *twist* was so out there, and so strange that it literally blew peoples minds... but not in a good way. I wish to spoil it, but do not want people to miss out on this... expierence, but if you ask anyone who has beaten the game about the *twist* they know EXACTLY what you are talking about. It wasn't a bad idea for the *twist* really, but it was done in about 5 seconds after some pretty major crap happened thus it wasn't foreshadowed at all, good idea but horribly exacuted.

What do you think is your favorite mind**** moment, while choosing another for being the biggest mind**** moment in gaming history, in your opinion?

You're allowed to say fuck, it's ok!

Maybe Metal Gear Solid 3's ending for me, and The Boss' fate.

Heavy Rain.

I felt like my mind was literally fucked.

I love spelling mistakes in titles.

For me it is probably MGS2 where the colonel starts going weird and telling you to turn your game off because you was playing too long, it was like midnight while I was playing and I freaked. One moment where I lost my shit was the end of splosion man, for obvious reasons.

You're threads are also getting better and therefore worse.

Oh but, the last level in Braid. 

@cap123:

Oh, sweet! I didn't know that! GameFAQ habits die hard. Thank you for letting me know!

" You're allowed to say fuck, it's ok! "

" You're allowed to say fuck, it's ok! Maybe Metal Gear Solid 3's ending for me, and The Boss' fate. "

Deadly Premonition? Or is that too obvious?

Bioshock and Infamous come to mind.

The whole "Would you Kindly" thing from BioShock was pretty nifty in my opinion. It was one of those twists that made you think back through the entire game and realize just how things went.

I'm currently playing through Lunar: Silver Star Harmony, so I'm remembering the couple of twists from the "original" game, such as the current whereabouts of Dragonmaster Dyne and what had happened to Althena, though in retrospect I think those were only cool twists because I was young at the time. If the dialogue in the remake follows the "original's" closely enough, then it should have been apparent quite quickly - they lay it out pretty thick. Along that same vein, Final Fantasy 8's "We're all from the same orphanage but don't remember it!" was a neat twist for a young mind, but downright silly when you think about it now. 

Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem is full of giant mind fucks. The more your character went insane, the more the game would start to mess with you. Like popping up a screen that looked like a GameCube window indicating your memory card was corrupted and your save was lost. Or would make you think your TV was turning the volume down.

" You're allowed to say fuck, it's ok! Maybe Metal Gear Solid 3's ending for me, and The Boss' fate. "

" You're allowed to say fuck, it's ok!"

Eternal Darkness deleted your fucking save!  How much more mindfucky can it get?

Bayonetta. That whole game fucked me up.

Silent Hill (1, 2, 3, kinda 4, and a wee bit Homecoming, haven't played the others yet). 

Nothing really comes to mind. Even though I didn't care for the gameplay, the twist in Bioshock made me let out an "Ahhh dammm!".

@ZeForgotten:

The main reason I put astericks on the word *twist* for that game is because it is quite possibly the most ballsiest plot twist ever. I am not joking, the idea was great and I could tell that the devs themselves wanted to do it from the start of the star ocean franchise just to mess with its fanbase. Seriously research that twist. it is quite possibly the most insane twist ever. M, Knight could NEVER think of something as crazy.

Though it was handled very badly in terms of pacing, it was a great idea in my opinion. They just needed some damn foreshadowing.

Revan

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@ZeForgotten:

The main reason I put astericks on the word *twist* for that game is because it is quite possibly the most ballsiest plot twist ever. I am not joking, the idea was great and I could tell that the devs themselves wanted to do it from the start of the star ocean franchise just to mess with its fanbase. Seriously research that twist. it is quite possibly the most insane twist ever. M, Knight could NEVER think of something as crazy.

 

Though it was handled very badly in terms of pacing, it was a great idea in my opinion. They just needed some damn foreshadowing.

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Kotor of course springs up (in retrospect, how the hell did I not see that coming?), but so does Jade Empire. Probably one of my most memorable moments in gaming was when your master walks up to you after defeating the supreme bad guy and congratulates you. He then throws a crystal up in the air, turns around and kills you, revealing that he is in fact the real supreme bad guy. (The 'oh shit no' realisation when he threw the crystal up in the air will stick with me for some time).

Also Chrono Trigger - who the hell kills off the main character half way through a game?!

The beginning of Jak 2 is probably my favourite because that one actually changed the whole franchise.

Honourable mentions go to:
Psycho Mantis in the original Metal Gear Solid.
The ending of Limbo.
And of course... "Would you kindly".

All of Eternal Darkness. Every moment of that game fucked with my head!

The entirety of Killer 7.  I mean, wow.  It makes MGS2 look coherent.

Looks like Eternal Darkness is the winner. I think the bathtub scene sealed the deal on this topic.

Would you kindly......

First thing that always comes to mind for me is the "Would you kindly?" part in BioShock. It's like the perfect twist because it's always there right in your face and you never really notice it but when they finally reveal to you ........ that game's 4 years old but I don't wanna ruin anything for anyone. Other mindfuck moments would be Portal last part + ending, MGS2 when the AI goes all crazy and Shadow of the Colossus ending.

I gotta say, the worst *twist* I've ever experienced, fuck BioShock, fuck Portal, fuck any other game you think of, and I think you'll all agree with me on this one...

Ocelot was the good guy the whole time. :|

The king of answers is Killer 7

From the moment you press new game to the moment the credits roll.

Nothing else comes close.

When I found out (SPOILERS) that the Reapers created the Mass relays and the Citadel in Mass Effect. Came totally out of left field for me.

The end of Digital Devil Saga 2? Shit took a turn for the perverse near the end.

" I'm Darth Revan?! "

That people still pay money for Capcom games.

" I'm Darth Revan?! "

The one thing I remember most is near the end of MGS2 when the AI is fucking up.

The image of the skeletal, eyeless colonel freaked me out for a good while back then.

EDIT: Also in Snake Eater, during the fight with the End, having him sneak up behind me while I was trying to scope him out in first person mode and shooting me in the back made me completely paranoid for the rest of that fight.

Either KOTOR or Silent Hill 2. The Revan twist in KOTOR and basically ALL of Silent Hill 2.

" The end of Digital Devil Saga 2? Shit took a turn for the perverse near the end. "

Bioshock - Amazing twist, its staring you in the face the whole time like someone previously said and then when they drop a bomb on you, its a total OH SHIIT!

Oldboy.

Heavy Rain was a game that blew my mind. A specific point in a game where i sat back and felt my mind blown was the twist in Bioshock. 

D for the ps1.

" Bayonetta. That whole game fucked me up. "