#1 Posted by Shotgunblast97 (125 posts) -

So far I am thinking of getting Silent storm and jagged alliance but what other TBT games would you Recommend for me. I would prefer it if you told me ones that were in a isometric view point since I don't like the looks of the ones that are in 3d. Also does anyone know if the original X-com series can run on Windows 7.

#2 Edited by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -

The Xcom games are on Steam, and I'm pretty sure they do indeed run on windows 7. As for other games, check out the new Xcom, Civilization IV and V along with the expansions.

#3 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

Is there a difference between strategy and tactics? I'm pretty sure there is, I just don't know what the hell it is.

#4 Posted by Chaser324 (6515 posts) -

Yeah, the original X-COM series will run in Windows 7, and there are quite a few fan made mods and patches that can help make it more playable on a modern machine.

I'd recommend checking out Valkyria Chronicles if you have a PS3. Fallout Tactics is decent. If you want to go down the more of the straight up turn based strategy line, you can check out Civilization V. If you want to go down the Strategy RPG line, look into Final Fantasy Tactics and Disgaea.

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#5 Posted by OmegaChosen (645 posts) -

Tactics Ogre is great if you've got a PSP.

#6 Posted by Elwoodan (829 posts) -

The Heroes of Might And Magic series are fun, as well as the Kings Bounty games. If your looking to go a bit old school Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic is on GoG.com. Civ 5 and the new XCOM are by far the best, though.

#7 Posted by Kerned (1170 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: Strategy games are focused on broader, large-scale, big picture sort of things. Think the Civilization series. Tactics games are focused on battlefield or squad movements. Think XCOM.

#8 Posted by csl316 (8646 posts) -

I liked Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume, mainly for its story. Took some strategizing and each battle felt rewarding.

#9 Posted by Ares42 (2661 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

Is there a difference between strategy and tactics? I'm pretty sure there is, I just don't know what the hell it is.

I'm just gonna talk out of my ass here, but I would think it has something to do with immediacy. Like take Civ, it's mostly about long-term desicions that will affect your game as you go along (strategy), while something like the new X-Com is much more about turn by turn desicions that have major immediate impact (tactics)

#10 Posted by ripelivejam (3934 posts) -

@OmegaChosen said:

Tactics Ogre is great if you've got a PSP.

haven't played that but i'd also recommend Jeanne D'Arc

#11 Posted by Canteu (2821 posts) -

Disgaea. Any of them.

You won't really need any other game ever again though, so be warned.

#12 Posted by ThunderSlash (1720 posts) -

The Advance Wars games on the GBA are great!

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#13 Posted by MocBucket62 (1224 posts) -

Final Fantasy Tactics and Advance Wars if you happen to have a GBA.  
 
If you have a DS, hopefully you can find Age of Empires: Age of Kings. Its pretty much Age of Empires meets Advance Wars. Seriously that's one of my favorite DS games ever!

#14 Posted by Skyfire543 (687 posts) -

Advanced Wars, Disgaea, and Tactics Ogre.

#15 Posted by Oddy4000 (94 posts) -

I have more of a console background, but here goes:

Shining Force 1 and 2 are both on the $20 Sega Genisis Compilation, those are both great games.

Vandal Hearts (PS1) was good - I heard the 360 arcade reboot, not so much

I have played Jeanne D'Arc for PSP. it was pretty good

Valkyria Chronicles (PS3) is great

Fire Emblem games on Gamecube and Wii are both good.

Disgaea is crazy complex. Not for beginners, IMO

#16 Edited by CptBedlam (4450 posts) -

@Shotgunblast97: If you choose Jagged Alliance {which you should}, just make sure you get the original JA2 and stay away from the vastly inferior new one.

#17 Posted by JasonR86 (9696 posts) -

The new X-Com. The only other one that I really liked was Shining Force so I might be a bad reference. But the new X-Com is great.

#18 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

Final Fantasy Tactics is awesome.

#19 Posted by Hailinel (24707 posts) -

@MocBucket62 said:

Final Fantasy Tactics and Advance Wars if you happen to have a GBA. If you have a DS, hopefully you can find Age of Empires: Age of Kings. Its pretty much Age of Empires meets Advance Wars. Seriously that's one of my favorite DS games ever!

Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions is easily the best FFT game.

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#20 Posted by Fluttercry (195 posts) -

Final Fantasy Tactics, XCOM, and Civilization V come to mind.

#21 Posted by TheRealMoot (375 posts) -

The Disgaea series (Available on PSP, Vita, PS2, PS3 and DS) is a crazy tactics game if your into hard rules and brutal difficulty combined with the most absurd anime tropes and characters. You can sink hundreds of hours into them and still learn new things. I'm over 200 hours into Disgaea 3 and even at level 9999 and dealing millions of damage to enemies I can still get beat to oblivion by the AI. It's great. Also the character customization is absurd, you can have every character do basically anything.

Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced for the GBA is great. Easy, neat story, good character customization and very fun.

You could try the old Fallout games too, they're not team based but they should count. But stay away from Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. That game is F*cked.

Odium / Gorky 17 is another old PC tactics game, but I'm not sure it works on modern operating systems though. I was able to get it kinda working on my machine and had a hell of a time with it before it kicked the crap out of me and I had to restart the whole game. Not really sure what the story is about though, something about genetic mutations... Monsters = Bad is all I could figure out before I got stuck.

And finally, even though I haven't played it yet the new X-Com looks/sounds promising.

#22 Posted by OmegaChosen (645 posts) -

@ripelivejam said:

@OmegaChosen said:

Tactics Ogre is great if you've got a PSP.

haven't played that but i'd also recommend Jeanne D'Arc

Tactics Ogre is like what you'd get if you polished FFT WoTL to a pristine shine and then put some powdered gold on top. Personally, I tried going back to FFT after playing through Tactics Ogre and it frustrated me to no end. Everything just kind of worked...better in TO. Just my opinion though.

#23 Posted by MB (12383 posts) -

How about this...would any of these games run on and be appropriate for a MacBook Air...and would they control ok with the Mac trackpad? I'm looking to get more games like this that I can play while traveling and also doing other things.

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#24 Posted by Aetheldod (3579 posts) -

Front Mission 3 .... its on PSN

#25 Posted by Tennmuerti (8098 posts) -

Pretty sure we have this thread every few month if not more frequently.

Also there are a whole boatload of suggestions here: http://www.giantbomb.com/xcom-enemy-unknown/61-37152/games-similar-to-the-new-xcom/35-561938/#82

Fallout: Tactics, Kings Bounty, new Xcom.

A lot of old school western RPGs are technically also turn based tactics games, (Baldur's Gate, Temple of Elemental Evil, Fallout 1,2, etc)

Heroes of Might and Magic, but it tends more towards the strategy spectrum rather them smaller scale tactics, same for Disciples 2, and stuff like Civilization is firmly in the turn based strategy camp

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#27 Posted by StarvingGamer (8227 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@MocBucket62 said:

Final Fantasy Tactics and Advance Wars if you happen to have a GBA. If you have a DS, hopefully you can find Age of Empires: Age of Kings. Its pretty much Age of Empires meets Advance Wars. Seriously that's one of my favorite DS games ever!

Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions is easily the best game.

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#28 Posted by MB (12383 posts) -

@Tennmuerti: Just a reminder that Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition is due out this month for pretty much every platform imaginable.

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#29 Posted by Hailinel (24707 posts) -

@ripelivejam said:

@OmegaChosen said:

Tactics Ogre is great if you've got a PSP.

haven't played that but i'd also recommend Jeanne D'Arc

Jeanne D'Arc is decent, but not great. I spent too much time in the story having to fight that jackass Talbot before getting tired of it. (Seriously, why is he in so much of the early game?)

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#30 Posted by BisonHero (6500 posts) -
@Ares42

@Video_Game_King said:

Is there a difference between strategy and tactics? I'm pretty sure there is, I just don't know what the hell it is.

I'm just gonna talk out of my ass here, but I would think it has something to do with immediacy. Like take Civ, it's mostly about long-term desicions that will affect your game as you go along (strategy), while something like the new X-Com is much more about turn by turn desicions that have major immediate impact (tactics)

I think Civ and XCOM are both strategy, because while they both have unit combat that plays out quickly, they both have long term resource and research and production management. And really, a lot of games in this genre have some element of resource or base management. If the game is purely about taking the troops you're given and ordering them around, I consider it a tactics game. Fire Emblem, Tactics Ogre, Shining Force, Frozen Synapse, Disgaea, are all strictly tactics games, as opposed to strategy games.
#31 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11720 posts) -

Fire Emblem dawg. All of the Fire Emblem. Also XCOM, Heroes of Might and Magic, King's Bounty, Tactics Ogre, and Final Fantasy Tactics. I guess.

#32 Edited by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -

I'll always recommend Fallout 1/2 (not Tactics) because they have great role-playing aspects and stories as well as solid turn based tactics combat. Sure Jagged Alliance probably fleshes out the tactics a bit more, but I would not trust the story to draw me in or keep me entertained like Fallout.
 
And luckily all Interplay games (such as Fallout 1 and 2) are %50 off on GOG right now. So maybe look there.

#33 Posted by Alexandru (301 posts) -

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars for 3DS and iOS.

#34 Posted by ThunderSlash (1720 posts) -

@Alexandru said:

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars for 3DS and iOS.

This. It's made by the same dude that made the original X-Com.

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#35 Posted by endaround (2145 posts) -

@MB said:

How about this...would any of these games run on and be appropriate for a MacBook Air...and would they control ok with the Mac trackpad? I'm looking to get more games like this that I can play while traveling and also doing other things.

JA2 and Fallout Tactics are both 2D so should work. Also look at the Disciples games (well II, not III) and the Age of Wonder games.