#1 Posted by WalrusBrigade (6 posts) -

In the recent post about Nintendo's woes a user (thatdutchguy) suggested that the 3DS was "the only good thing Nintendo has done in the past 10 years." Hyperbole aside, it made me wonder if that was possibly true.

I do not own a 3DS (my cheap 2DS is doing me just fine), but I'll take for granted that it is an excellent console. But it is the predecessor of a pretty excellent handheld . . . the original DS (in all of its variants). So here is my question, if we take away some of the improvements that occur just because the 3DS is newer than the DS (better screen, on-line, etc.) is the 3DS in its current state actually better than the older DS?

I'm sure there are 3DS lovers that are going to jump all over this, and that is fine. Again, I come to this out of a place of ignorance, but also remembering how great my old DS was.

#2 Edited by Hunter5024 (5543 posts) -

I judge consoles based on games, and to me the 3DS is already miles better than the DS, because it has games I really enjoyed in the Fire Emblem, Mario, and Zelda franchises. Whereas the original DS had multiple shots at each of these series, and I didn't like any of them.

#3 Posted by 49th (2691 posts) -

I prefer the DS since it had more stuff I wanted to play. I honestly haven't found much that I really want to play on 3DS (7 games) whereas on the DS I had probably close to 30. Hopefully in the next few years the 3DS will get some more high quality platformers which I found a lot of on DS. Also the Castlevania 3DS game... what a pile of shit.

#4 Posted by CrazyBagMan (836 posts) -

I'm with Hunter on this. The series' that DS and 3DS share, I find the 3DS versions to be vastly superior. Plus it's a better system. You'd be a fool to ignore better hardware.

#5 Edited by kishinfoulux (2255 posts) -

The DS destroys the 3DS. Not even a question IMHO. Probably the best handheld of all time.

#6 Posted by Morningstar (2141 posts) -

DS by far. But it was also out longer than the 3DS has been so far. It will catch up.

#7 Edited by MentalDisruption (1618 posts) -

The games that released on the DS make it my favorite handheld of all time easily. That being said, 3DS has backwards compatability so technically it is better. 3DS has its own unique games that are really great, and it can access all the greats of the DS as well. You say remove the new benefits that are there because its newer tech...so what else are we supposed to compare? DS has some nostalgia going for it but thats about it. If you put both devices side by side and tell me to pick I'm always going to pick the 3DS.

#8 Posted by animathias (1170 posts) -

You really can't make this comparison without another handheld out. It's kind of silly to compare the library of a console that's had an entire lifespan to the library of a console that's still going.

If you think about it, and yes, I realize how silly this is, but it lines up perfectly, you can ask the same question of "if we take away some of the improvements that occur just because the Xbox One is newer than the Xbox 360 (1080p, Kinect 2, etc.) is the Xbox One in its current state actually better than the older Xbox 360?"

The answer is no, no it's not. But it's not until we can compare the entire lifespan of each console to each other that we get the real answer of which one is better.

All that being said, the 3DS has some awesome games on it, and a few of them are definitely Nintendo's best work. The DS has some awesome games as well, and some of Nintendo's best work lies on that console too.

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#9 Posted by crithon (3081 posts) -

...... sometimes I'm often in awe over the graphics on 3DS. Like the SSAO on animal crossing, the bump maping in Super Mario 3D Land..... But I mean I picked up a few DS games for 5 bucks and can play them both so I can't decide?...... I'd love to play some Boktai or Drill Dozer right now without the need of an emulator.

The DS fucking rocked, so much experimental stuff, stuff worth importing, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, How many games can compare to like the controls of Phantom Hourglass and Ninja Gaiden DS? That's always bothered me about ipad, nothing on par with ninja gaiden DS..... and of course the greatest game of all time, Rocket Slime.

#10 Posted by Phatmac (5721 posts) -

TWETY is on DS so it wins. Also Ghost Trick.

#11 Posted by probablytuna (3535 posts) -

3DS has backwards compatibility. 3DS wins.

#12 Posted by believer258 (11635 posts) -

If the 3DS gets a couple more years like 2013, then it could beat the DS.

But you've got to remember that the 3DS isn't that old, whereas the DS came out in 2004. The DS just has a huge wealth of games for it that has been built up over about a decade now. The 3DS just hasn't had time to build up a library like that.

#13 Posted by Flappy (2128 posts) -

Ignoring backwards compatibility and judging the two handhelds based on their respective libraries, the older DS gang punches the younger 3DS in the gut, steals its lunch money, then stuffs it in a locker. The 3DS is a bit easier on the eyes and capable of putting out quality experiences, but as of right now, it's held back by its youth and inexperience. The DS, DS Lite, and DSi have been there and done that; they were the original money printers.

If all goes well, the 3DS will develop into a solid handheld that trumps the handhelds that came before it, but as of right now, it has a lot of growing to do. That region-lock ain't doing it any favors, though.

#14 Edited by Sergio (2050 posts) -

3DS has backwards compatibility. 3DS wins.

This. If it wasn't backwards compatible, then it'd be a tough choice. I'd probably lean towards the DS because it had more great titles.

#15 Posted by TowerSixteen (542 posts) -

3DS has backwards compatibility. 3DS wins.

Sense is spoken.

#16 Posted by Nightriff (4915 posts) -

Well its too early to speak but the DS was better overal but as probablytuna has stated, 3DS plays DS games, it wins.

#17 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (4157 posts) -

DS had Metroid Prime Hunters. No game has ever had multiplayer that even claim close to that, on 3DS. A product of its time, borne from the existence of Retro doing Metroid Prime, there has never been another game quite as epic in its small form factor. /truthiness

#18 Edited by ripelivejam (3541 posts) -

this site is really catching fanboy-itis, i see...

#19 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11477 posts) -

It's kind of silly to compare a handheld that had around 6-7 years worth of quality games to one that's had 2. The 3DS is getting there for sure, but it still can't compete in terms of raw numbers.

DS had Metroid Prime Hunters. No game has ever had multiplayer that even claim close to that, on 3DS. A product of its time, borne from the existence of Retro doing Metroid Prime, there has never been another game quite as epic in its small form factor. /truthiness

Congratulations! You reminded me that Metroid Prime Hunters was a thing I played back when I didn't know any better! Actually, the multiplayer in that game was pretty fun, but it wasn't especially well balanced, that's for sure.

#20 Posted by Sammo21 (3211 posts) -

Right now? I will say that the DS is better. I would also say the PS Vita is better than the 3DS as I have played the Vita to the DS 4:1 and I own many more games, even outside of PS+, than I do the 3DS.

#21 Posted by Flappy (2128 posts) -

@ripelivejam: Shhhhhhhhhh! At least we aren't talking about the Wii U.

#22 Edited by Sergio (2050 posts) -

@flappy said:

@ripelivejam: Shhhhhhhhhh! At least we aren't talking about the Wii U.

I think he's just trolling. Comparing two systems from the same manufacturer doesn't warrant a dumb, unconstructive comment as his.

#23 Posted by ervonymous (1297 posts) -

@probablytuna: As did the original DS, my only means to play Advance Wars 2 now. Speaking of which Intelligent Systems should take a break from Fire Emblem and make one for 3DS.

DS was also region free until DSi came along and it was the first system I really imported games for. Ouendan wins by default.

#24 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4632 posts) -

3DS is more technologically advanced, already has better games, and can play the DS games anyway making this an entirely redundant question.

#25 Posted by Guesty_01 (339 posts) -

The DS library of quality game is HUGE. Honestly, anybody that says 3DS right now is either forgetting that sheer volume of software that system has, or is simply ignorant of said software.

#26 Posted by CynicalBuzzard (240 posts) -

The 3DS wins since the games that have came out in its short life cycle have been better than the earlier DS games and plus the 3DS can play all of the DS games.

#27 Posted by kishinfoulux (2255 posts) -

3DS is more technologically advanced, already has better games, and can play the DS games anyway making this an entirely redundant question.

Yeah advanced with 3D, a feature EVERYONE wanted. No thanks.

Better games? No.

As for backwards compatability I'd assume we're talking about their distinct libraries.

#28 Edited by RecSpec (3763 posts) -

DS has TWEWY and Advance Wars. Waiting on you 3DS.

#29 Posted by Tarsier (1056 posts) -

people havent played enough of the cool 3DS games. i havent either, but ive made a list in preparations for when i do.

zelda ocarina of time 3d

zelda link between worlds

yoshis island 3d

pokemon x or y

animal crossing new leaf

mario kart 3ds

kid icarus

fire emblem awakening

super mario 3d land

whatever other cool stuff is on the nintendo e-shop that ive missed out on over the years or could get nostalgic about.

#30 Posted by NorseDudeTR (421 posts) -

If we’re talking design, I’m going with the DS, I really like the clean look of the lite/dsi/dsi XL. The lack of an analog stick makes them look nice and tidy. The battery life is pretty amazing as, though the 3DS XL is no slouch in that departement, either.

I guess I’ve played more DS games, and I really like the way the constraints of that system tended to focus games, and kept them way different from console games, but it is cool to see beautful graphics on the 3DS.

Oh. And The World ends with You was on the DS. Favorite handheld game ever.

#31 Posted by Flappy (2128 posts) -

The 3DS Region-lock (with a side of unfortunate company stuff) just killed Rune Factory 4 in Europe. This wouldn't happen to the DS, yo!

I understand how importing games can screw over localization teams and whatnot, but Europe was just robbed of a game (a translated one, no less) because of a serious of unfortunate events. I doubt Europe's dilemma will get much play on this side of the Internet, but if something were to happen to games like SMT IV (for Europe) or Bravely Second (for NA/EU), people would be incredibly salty.