Why does Giant Bomb layout look like Polygon/The Verge now?

#1 Edited by Cynical_Gamer (96 posts) - 3 months, 23 hours ago

What the heck? I miss the old layout.

#2 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (1404 posts) - 3 months, 23 hours ago

What the heck? I miss the old layout.

I heard that CBS didn't own that Whiskey framework, so they just had to make a new site. Or something like that.

#3 Edited by Pr1mus (2417 posts) - 3 months, 23 hours ago

It looks nothing like The Verge?

And besides some big images on the top of the front page and at the top of reviews i don't see it either in regards to Polygon.

#4 Posted by JasonR86 (7675 posts) - 3 months, 23 hours ago

@cynical_gamer:

They changed because they didn't own the framework that the old site was built on. I'm not sure why you think it looks like Polygon/Verge. It doesn't really look that way to me.

#5 Posted by SexyToad (2316 posts) - 3 months, 23 hours ago

^That. Also the redesign was being made before Polygon released their site. It's a coincidence they're similar. I personally don't think they're all that similar.

#6 Edited by Morbid_Coffee (930 posts) - 3 months, 23 hours ago

Giant Bomb

Don't

Care.

#7 Posted by Maajin (867 posts) - 3 months, 23 hours ago

You miss it? Really? Well, here. Have fun.

#8 Posted by louiedog (2286 posts) - 3 months, 23 hours ago

I don't think they're very similar outside of modern design elements that come from them being created fairly close together.

Aside from looks, they feel very different to me. Polygon feels like a site where you can read stuff. Giant Bomb feels like a site where you can do stuff.

#9 Posted by Andorski (4114 posts) - 3 months, 22 hours ago

The designs for both GB and Polygon allow for automatic site scaling. Expand and withdraw the horizontal length of your browser window to see what I mean. This means that there is only one site for every device you can view this on, be it computer, tablet, or smartphone. This is where modern web design is going.

#10 Posted by Fredchuckdave (1693 posts) - 3 months, 22 hours ago

Phone friendly sites are more and more ubiquitous and they all look very similar.

#11 Posted by TooWalrus (11799 posts) - 3 months, 22 hours ago

Because responsive design is the future of the internet and you should get used to it. That's why.

#12 Edited by Miketakon (487 posts) - 3 months, 22 hours ago

Tablets yo!

#13 Posted by GreggD (3320 posts) - 3 months, 22 hours ago

Why does your avatar consist of Tomonobu Itagaki?

#14 Edited by Grimluck343 (1073 posts) - 3 months, 22 hours ago
@greggd said:

Why does your avatar consist of Tomonobu Itagaki?

A better question is why that isn't the default avatar.

#15 Posted by Zekhariah (576 posts) - 3 months, 21 hours ago

The new one is very web 2.0 (or 3.0, whatever it is now).

I'm sort of glad that all of the professional type websites I use have stuck with the same old 2000 era layouts. Not as pretty to look at, but if you know what you want pushing ctrl+f will get you there. But for something like a medium speed news/content setup, the new giantbomb setup seems like a reasonable compromise.

#16 Edited by ImmortalSaiyan (4186 posts) - 3 months, 21 hours ago

@greggd said:

Why does your avatar consist of Tomonobu Itagaki?

A better question is why that isn't the default avatar.

I hope Devil Third is doing okay.

#17 Posted by AlexanderSheen (3533 posts) - 3 months, 20 hours ago

Because change is bad.

#18 Edited by huss (26 posts) - 3 months, 20 hours ago

I really dislike the layout of stories/reviews on polygon, but I don't think Giant Bomb's new layout is much like it; at least not nearly so extreme. Polygon reminds me of infographics, where it looks neat for the sake of looking neat, not because it's more usable or understandable.

#19 Posted by Nonused (151 posts) - 3 months, 20 hours ago
@maajin said:

You miss it? Really? Well, here. Have fun.

It's just...it's just not the same.

#20 Posted by DarthOrange (2464 posts) - 3 months, 20 hours ago

The light theme reminds me of IGN with all the white and red. They should really make the dark theme the default.

#21 Posted by Jawesome87 (5 posts) - 3 months, 19 hours ago

@darthorange: I agree. It's annoying when I log into my account on different computers and its not holding my theme preference. Very picky complaint to an otherwise great redesign!

#22 Posted by BisonHero (3215 posts) - 3 months, 18 hours ago

Q: Are you going to read through all of the thread replies, and elect one as the clear winner, that most adequately answers the thread title?

Or is your question entirely rhetorical or opinion-based, such that you will not be selecting the "correct" answer? If this is the case, you have fucked up and misunderstood the purpose of creating a "question" topic.

#23 Posted by PandaBear (612 posts) - 3 months, 17 hours ago

Q: Are you going to read through all of the thread replies, and elect one as the clear winner, that most adequately answers the thread title?

Or is your question entirely rhetorical or opinion-based, such that you will not be selecting the "correct" answer? If this is the case, you have fucked up and misunderstood the purpose of creating a "question" topic.

This should appear before people hit the "Submit" button when starting a new thread.

#24 Edited by DaMisterChief (657 posts) - 3 months, 17 hours ago

Site seems to be more mobile friendly so i guy that layout seems to be a natural transition from old layout.

#25 Edited by coakroach (2383 posts) - 3 months, 17 hours ago

Because phones.

#26 Posted by Branthog (7044 posts) - 3 months, 10 hours ago

Because phones.

I don't think that's the case, because this site is shit on mobile devices. If I log into it from my ipad, I can't even post or reply to messages in the forums or PMs. The "reply/quote/edit" buttons don't even exist.

That said, I initially fucking hated the whole Polygon/USA Today "people are stupid, so have some enormous fucking pictures that consume all of your screen real-estate" thing was massively off-putting. I still kind of dislike it, but overall, I find the site an improvement and @snide and team deserve kudos. I know things will improve over time. This isn't a one-and-done. I look forward to improvements.

I also wonder if they'll start having to include Metacritic scores in the wiki and in reviews. I expected that almost as soon as they joined CBS (CBS owns Metacritic), but have been pleasantly surprised that it hasn't yet happened. In fact, for all the doubts I've had about GB maintaining integrity after joining CBS (not because of lack of faith in @jeff and gang, but because of my knowledge of how the media and corporations works -- and my specific insight into CBS), they have held up remarkably well. I always said I hoped I was wrong in my pessimism and doubt and, so far, I do indeed seem to have been wrong.

#27 Posted by Pr1mus (2417 posts) - 3 months, 9 hours ago
@branthog said:

@coakroach said:

Because phones.

I don't think that's the case, because this site is shit on mobile devices. If I log into it from my ipad, I can't even post or reply to messages in the forums or PMs. The "reply/quote/edit" buttons don't even exist.

That said, I initially fucking hated the whole Polygon/USA Today "people are stupid, so have some enormous fucking pictures that consume all of your screen real-estate" thing was massively off-putting. I still kind of dislike it, but overall, I find the site an improvement and @snide and team deserve kudos. I know things will improve over time. This isn't a one-and-done. I look forward to improvements.

I also wonder if they'll start having to include Metacritic scores in the wiki and in reviews. I expected that almost as soon as they joined CBS (CBS owns Metacritic), but have been pleasantly surprised that it hasn't yet happened. In fact, for all the doubts I've had about GB maintaining integrity after joining CBS (not because of lack of faith in @jeff and gang, but because of my knowledge of how the media and corporations works -- and my specific insight into CBS), they have held up remarkably well. I always said I hoped I was wrong in my pessimism and doubt and, so far, I do indeed seem to have been wrong.

I hope you continue to be wrong about the Metacritic scores. As for the reply/quote/edit either Dave or Alexis said in one of the many bug threads that they'll work on that once the major stability issues are resolved. At the very least it seems like something they want to fix on this new design.

#28 Posted by BisonHero (3215 posts) - 3 months, 9 hours ago

@branthog: I still think Polygon's enormous fucking pictures are really stupid. But then, I basically hate modern web design, because I think they pretty much figured websites out like 5 or 6 years ago, and now they're desperately treading water, trying to find extraneous features to add ("Everything ever needs to have comments below it!" - billions of pages with 0-1 comments on them), or cycling through pointless fads of design so that everyone feels the need to redesign their site every 2-4 years (I guess we're in a dumb minimalist-with-big-pictures phase right now or something?).

Honestly, UIs get designed WAY too often by big companies, and it always seems like a lateral shift, a reorganization of the same elements without any real improvement. Xbox dashboard? Facebook? Kotaku/Gawker Media? iTunes? Constantly redesigned, not to facilitate any real change in function or features, but to stay "current" and to lead the world into some bold new future of even less intuitive menus.

#29 Posted by Pr1mus (2417 posts) - 3 months, 9 hours ago

@branthog: I still think Polygon's enormous fucking pictures are really stupid.

Big images that take the whole screen like on Polygon just break the flow of the site. It's really bad for a site that has plenty of long features. I think the size of images on GB is just right, big enough without breaking anything.

But the worst thing polygon does is using multiple font, font size and font colors. When within the same screen i can see 4 different fonts, 3 font size, 2 different colors and some text in bold and other in italics it's just stupid.

#30 Posted by Kerned (1119 posts) - 3 months, 9 hours ago

Aside from large images, the redesign doesn't look much like Polygon at all. It looks nothing like The Verge. Nothing.

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#31 Posted by Winternet (7262 posts) - 3 months, 9 hours ago

I know dude, I know. Pro tip: black.

#32 Edited by rjayb89 (7553 posts) - 3 months, 9 hours ago

Honestly, the redesign is missing something vital to its existence and I think I've fixed it:

#33 Posted by Nightriff (2877 posts) - 3 months, 9 hours ago

It isn't like Polygon, Polygon is fucking awful. The new format is fine, I prefer the old one but whatever. I just wish I could get rid of the community thing and replace it with my favorite boards, that was useful to quickly check if there was a new topic on something I care about.

#34 Posted by BisonHero (3215 posts) - 3 months, 8 hours ago

@pr1mus said:
@bisonhero said:

@branthog: I still think Polygon's enormous fucking pictures are really stupid.

Big images that take the whole screen like on Polygon just break the flow of the site. It's really bad for a site that has plenty of long features. I think the size of images on GB is just right, big enough without breaking anything.

But the worst thing polygon does is using multiple font, font size and font colors. When within the same screen i can see 4 different fonts, 3 font size, 2 different colors and some text in bold and other in italics it's just stupid.

Remember this thread?

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/polygoncom-is-live-what-do-you-guys-think-564998/

I specifically remember Deusx's post from that thread. Jesus Christ.

#35 Posted by Nilazz (512 posts) - 3 months, 8 hours ago
#36 Posted by Pr1mus (2417 posts) - 3 months, 8 hours ago

@rjayb89: Yes!

@pr1mus said:

Big images that take the whole screen like on Polygon just break the flow of the site. It's really bad for a site that has plenty of long features. I think the size of images on GB is just right, big enough without breaking anything.

But the worst thing polygon does is using multiple font, font size and font colors. When within the same screen i can see 4 different fonts, 3 font size, 2 different colors and some text in bold and other in italics it's just stupid.

Remember this thread?

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/polygoncom-is-live-what-do-you-guys-think-564998/

I specifically remember Deusx's post from that thread. Jesus Christ.

You can tell he really likes the site.

#37 Posted by Scrawnto (1960 posts) - 3 months, 8 hours ago

I don't think they look much the same at all, but I'm also in the extreme minority that is seldom bothered by site redesigns. I happen to like the design of both sites, and I think the new Giant Bomb looks a lot nicer than the previous one. The only thing I miss is the forum activity pane on the front page, but Dave has said they're looking into doing something similar down the road.

#38 Posted by Branthog (7044 posts) - 3 months, 7 hours ago

@pr1mus said:
@bisonhero said:

@branthog: I still think Polygon's enormous fucking pictures are really stupid.

Big images that take the whole screen like on Polygon just break the flow of the site. It's really bad for a site that has plenty of long features. I think the size of images on GB is just right, big enough without breaking anything.

But the worst thing polygon does is using multiple font, font size and font colors. When within the same screen i can see 4 different fonts, 3 font size, 2 different colors and some text in bold and other in italics it's just stupid.

Remember this thread?

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/polygoncom-is-live-what-do-you-guys-think-564998/

I specifically remember Deusx's post from that thread. Jesus Christ.

Unfortunately, there are web designers who know how to stay out of the way of the content and let the content be king. Then there are web designers who feel compelled to justify their position and salary. Frankly, I can't understand people who can't understand why people would find consuming enormous amounts of space to convey the least amount of information a problem.

#39 Posted by Sooty (6685 posts) - 2 months, 29 days ago

Because responsive design is the future of the internet and you should get used to it. That's why.

I guess you mean the resizing shenanigans? Because responsive in terms of loading is something this site has never been, I've always found GiantBomb a little slower than most websites.

#40 Edited by MordeaniisChaos (5709 posts) - 2 months, 29 days ago

@maajin said:

You miss it? Really? Well, here. Have fun.

Oh shit, they have a Furnace of the Year article, sweet!

@branthog said:

Frankly, I can't understand people who can't understand why people would find consuming enormous amounts of space to convey the least amount of information a problem

“I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”

That's pretty much what I thought of when I tried to read that sentence. I think I might agree though? At least in the case of a persistent content driven site.

But for stuff like marketing or the site for a game, I'm all for developers going crazy and making an awesome website. Everyone has a passion, and I think it's cool to see them go over-board with cool shit.

@sooty: I'm going to assume that the slowness of the site is a temporary thing that is less about the design of the site and more about back end stuff that's still adjusting, for lack of a better term.

#41 Posted by MikeJFlick (223 posts) - 2 months, 29 days ago

I don't know what polygon or the verge is.... all I know is this new site hurts my eyes, too white too bright, I miss the old dark background.

#42 Posted by Village_Guy (2089 posts) - 2 months, 29 days ago

I don't know what polygon or the verge is.... all I know is this new site hurts my eyes, too white too bright, I miss the old dark background.

Upper right corner, you can change between light or dark background, return to the dark side!

#43 Posted by MikeJFlick (223 posts) - 2 months, 29 days ago

@mikejflick said:

I don't know what polygon or the verge is.... all I know is this new site hurts my eyes, too white too bright, I miss the old dark background.

Upper right corner, you can change between light or dark background, return to the dark side!

Ah nice, thanks.

#44 Posted by Sooty (6685 posts) - 2 months, 29 days ago

@sooty: I'm going to assume that the slowness of the site is a temporary thing that is less about the design of the site and more about back end stuff that's still adjusting, for lack of a better term.

It doesn't feel much slower to me than before, I always thought GiantBomb loaded quite slow, it's probably the slowest site I visit along with Reddit.

#45 Posted by Brodehouse (7111 posts) - 2 months, 29 days ago

For a site that was designed to work on phones, I find the new forums to be pretty terrible. Tiny little text box, the edit function (now that there finally is one) is kind of ghetto and broken... Unhappy.

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