Simple question...and post your predictions if you want. I think a year from now will be appropriate timing for at Sony and Microsoft to at least tease the next generation of hardware. The announced consoles may not be released for a year or two after the initial reveal, but I still think we may see at least something at next year's E3. What do you think?
Oh, and just to get this argument out of the way...10-year PS3 life cycle my ass.
Will any new consoles be unveiled at E3 2010? (POLL)
Nintendo will probably announce the Superwii in 2010, but won't come out until 2012.
Sony will keep quiet until 2012
and MS will announce a portable most likley in 2010, but keep quiet until 2012
They'll be definatley working on them in 2010, and I imagine Nintendo is already working on the Superwii
Hm, I don't think Sony or MS will show any new consoles off next year, they showed too much stuff for current gen consoles this year. Perhaps announce new systems in 2011? ...at the earliest.
Eh, @ E3 2010 they'll probably show the first actual wand/Natal games, I don't think any company intends to move new hardware so early... What would next gen platforms do? Few developers max out the current platforms in terms of abilities. Game development has become simply too complex for that to occur all that often, so what's the point of moving the goal posts further away when these haven't really been reached? There's no benefit in doing that whatsoever. Sure, you've had your Metal Gears and your Gears of Wars that have exploted the systems good enough, but what about other genres and experiences they could work on offering? This generation will be one of the longest for all companies, I'm sure of that much. It took a while to kickstart after all, and it's basically getting a reboot with Motion Plus and the other motion devices showcased which offer something new without increasing the specifications. Perhaps we'll see some DSi exclusive titles as the first step to make the DS Lite obsolette and exploit the DSi's full power in order to elevate it to "DS 2" status, but probably not much more than that.
I think it's very unlikely - all the major companies are boasting about their long console lifecycles and this year we're seeing innovations that try to fit in with current hardware - I doubt they'd use all these resources on new tech which will be made obsolete in such a short time.
Maybe you haven't heard, but the motion controls guarantee no new console for awhile yet. though Nintendo has already mentioned the next Wii in the past, the HD Wii, which for all we know is the same Wii just with a HD out... and in a different color... which will no doubt break records in sales day 1.
" Maybe you haven't heard, but the motion controls guarantee no new console for awhile yet. though Nintendo has already mentioned the next Wii in the past, the HD Wii, which for all we know is the same Wii just with a HD out... and in a different color... which will no doubt break records in sales day 1. "
"@freakin said:No, they haven't mentioned anything like that, only that they're working on the "next" thing as soon as the "current" is finished, just as every company is doing whether they admit it or not. They dominate the market, they have no reason to start competing with themselves. "" Maybe you haven't heard, but the motion controls guarantee no new console for awhile yet. though Nintendo has already mentioned the next Wii in the past, the HD Wii, which for all we know is the same Wii just with a HD out... and in a different color... which will no doubt break records in sales day 1. "
mentioned anything like what? I was speaking in generic, who knows what it is terms. And they did mention 2011 or 2012 didn't they. Btw Nintendo has a habit of covering their bases with the stuff they say, it doesn't actually necessarily mean anything.
Also, I don't think Microsoft "need" to update their system yet. Why would they pour so much into Natal? So no. The answer is no.
Maybe, MAYBE a new iteration of the Wii, like a redesign. No new consoles.
I think the only real possibility is a WiiHD being announced next year. The console is seriously starting to show some age, and HD TV penetration will have reached a level where Nintendo will consider it a "mass market" enough decision to release. Completely depends on how much Wii sales have slowed down this holiday season though.
If they're serious about it, Natal pretty much confirms that Microsoft is locked into the 360 for another couple years before they start to consider the next step. And yeah, PS3 is nowhere near being done with its primary cycle. In general, I don't see either of those companies making a jump in their tech until a new visual output is available; the jump to the next gen would be so incremental and in the current economic climate, introducing new hardware is a pretty hard sell. So iterate on what you got and wait for that ice to thaw.
I echo the thoughts of the others in this thread, this generation will definitely be the longest. E3 2010 is already pretty much confirmed to be the battle of motion control from what we're seeing from this E3.
By then, both Natal and Sony's Motion Controller (and let's not forget there will be some kind of response from Nintendo) will all be fighting it out for the best demo. I don't think they'd put so much into these new motion controllers if they were going to essentially debunk the system they're creating them for. It would be pointless.
I doubt we'll hear a sniff on PS4 until 2012. And I'd guess a similar thing for XBOX360 too. Development costs are already too high, I can't imagine where they could take these systems in the future. I'm sure there are teams hidden within Sony and Microsoft making these things... But we won't see them.
Heck, I don't even reckon we'll see a Wii follow up for a long time either.
This will certainly be the longest generation.
I think most of us agree that Microsoft will break early again.
There may be some redesigns by then. If the PS3 Slim or Wii HD are not revealed by TGS, then they could make an appearance at next year's E3. I don't expect any new consoles before 2012 from any of the big 3.
" no if any new console comes out next year it will be a horrible failure period. "
"@trophyhunter said:I don't think anyone is arguing that a new console would launch next year, but that one of the Big Three might say "And now a look at the future of _____" and unveil that they are indeed working on the next big thing. I still don't really see it happening, but just to clarify. "" no if any new console comes out next year it will be a horrible failure period. "
I don't think so... I see more shit that has nothing to do with real gaming... atleast from Microsoft and Nintendo.
I don't feel like there is going to be a new console shown this summer.
Reviving the thread because we're at the start of a new year, where we have a basic feel for what is going to be coming out, and we're half a year closer to the 2010 E3.
Microsoft and Sony are attempting to breathe new life they hope will extend the life of the current consoles. Nintendo might tease a DS2, but I don't feel like Sony is going to show off a new handheld just yet. Microsoft doesn't seem to be too interested in the handheld market...which might lend suspicion they might tease something, but we have yet to hear any rumors on that front, so I'm still standing firm against a Microsoft portable.
Software, I'm looking for some a few hands-on for this Q4, but I think there are going to be some really nice prettiness shown for 2011. And those are always such a wonderful pain to watch.
Based on what Microsoft has been doing with Natal, Sony being where it is, and Nintendo probably not making a move until someone else does AND with the Wii being a goldmine, I'm gonna say no.
" There may be some redesigns by then. If the PS3 Slim or Wii HD are not revealed by TGS, then they could make an appearance at next year's E3. I don't expect any new consoles before 2012 from any of the big 3. "Seven months later and I'm sticking with this. We did see the PS3 Slim finally drop and Wii HD rumors persist. I think there might be a redesign for the 360 as well considering the integration of Natal. There is a stronger chance of a new handheld. Nintendo might show the rumored new DS/Gameboy with motion sensors and an Iphone like screen. Then, I wonder if out of desperation over the lack of interest in the PSP Go, Sony will rush out a PSP 2. The later is doubtful for at least one more year, but who knows.
" no if any new console comes out next year it will be a horrible failure period. "How so? The 360 has already been going longer than any other console in history. Even the NES and SNES were replaced after only 5 years.
If they announced the '720' with a boat load of new features and better graphics than what we currently have, people would buy it just as we always have in the past.
That's not to say I think it'll happen though. Microsoft and Sony will be focusing on their motion controllers, and if they take off will continue to do so for sometime. MS have already proved their quite capable of reinventing the 360 with the dashboard upgrades, so there's no need for a new console. If anything they might announce a slimline version, possibly bundled with Natal. But not an entirely new console. Nintendo are safe as long as they have their ridiculous sales, but their problem is they've pretty much reached the peak of what they can do with the Wii. I don't think we'll see a sucessor just yet, but I see them announcing theirs first.
Ditto for the DS. A new PSP is somewhat more likely, and I wouldn't count out a Microsoft handheld and a more gaming orientated Apple system.
I don't think so. For some reason, I still feel like all these consoles are still young, even though that is not true.
" At E3, no. Later in the year? Maybe a hint at something from Microsoft. "Again, I don't see them coming out with a brand new system, but perhaps a slim line version.
But I do agree that if they're going to do this, I don't think they'd do it at E3, it'd more likely be announced later in the year.
is there a reason your quoting a post from almost a year ago??" @trophyhunter said:
" no if any new console comes out next year it will be a horrible failure period. "How so? The 360 has already been going longer than any other console in history. Even the NES and SNES were replaced after only 5 years. If they announced the '720' with a boat load of new features and better graphics than what we currently have, people would buy it just as we always have in the past. That's not to say I think it'll happen though. Microsoft and Sony will be focusing on their motion controllers, and if they take off will continue to do so for sometime. MS have already proved their quite capable of reinventing the 360 with the dashboard upgrades, so there's no need for a new console. If anything they might announce a slimline version, possibly bundled with Natal. But not an entirely new console. Nintendo are safe as long as they have their ridiculous sales, but their problem is they've pretty much reached the peak of what they can do with the Wii. I don't think we'll see a sucessor just yet, but I see them announcing theirs first. Ditto for the DS. A new PSP is somewhat more likely, and I wouldn't count out a Microsoft handheld and a more gaming orientated Apple system. "
ok if you want to buy a 720 go right ahead but I will not think to highly of you.
" @WinterSnowblind said:You replied back, didn't you? =P" @trophyhunter said:is there a reason your quoting a post from almost a year ago?? "" no if any new console comes out next year it will be a horrible failure period. "How so? The 360 has already been going longer than any other console in history. Even the NES and SNES were replaced after only 5 years. If they announced the '720' with a boat load of new features and better graphics than what we currently have, people would buy it just as we always have in the past. That's not to say I think it'll happen though. Microsoft and Sony will be focusing on their motion controllers, and if they take off will continue to do so for sometime. MS have already proved their quite capable of reinventing the 360 with the dashboard upgrades, so there's no need for a new console. If anything they might announce a slimline version, possibly bundled with Natal. But not an entirely new console. Nintendo are safe as long as they have their ridiculous sales, but their problem is they've pretty much reached the peak of what they can do with the Wii. I don't think we'll see a sucessor just yet, but I see them announcing theirs first. Ditto for the DS. A new PSP is somewhat more likely, and I wouldn't count out a Microsoft handheld and a more gaming orientated Apple system. "
" @trophyhunter said:well that's because I'm an asshole, you know that" @WinterSnowblind said:You replied back, didn't you? =P "" @trophyhunter said:is there a reason your quoting a post from almost a year ago?? "" no if any new console comes out next year it will be a horrible failure period. "How so? The 360 has already been going longer than any other console in history. Even the NES and SNES were replaced after only 5 years. If they announced the '720' with a boat load of new features and better graphics than what we currently have, people would buy it just as we always have in the past. That's not to say I think it'll happen though. Microsoft and Sony will be focusing on their motion controllers, and if they take off will continue to do so for sometime. MS have already proved their quite capable of reinventing the 360 with the dashboard upgrades, so there's no need for a new console. If anything they might announce a slimline version, possibly bundled with Natal. But not an entirely new console. Nintendo are safe as long as they have their ridiculous sales, but their problem is they've pretty much reached the peak of what they can do with the Wii. I don't think we'll see a sucessor just yet, but I see them announcing theirs first. Ditto for the DS. A new PSP is somewhat more likely, and I wouldn't count out a Microsoft handheld and a more gaming orientated Apple system. "
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