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#101 Edited by AssInAss (2621 posts) -

I love me some Internet Detectives.

#102 Edited by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

So wait. Why are we even saying its Infinite?

#103 Posted by TheHT (11155 posts) -

So wait. Why are we even saying its Infinite?

Because follow the money man!!

#104 Posted by Funkydupe (3311 posts) -

"I'm officially incapable of getting past a section". - Sessler

Can't be SimCity then. Does that game even have "sections"?

#105 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

"I'm officially incapable of getting past a section". - Sessler

Can't be SimCity then. Does that game even have "sections"?

Alex just said he is reviewing SimCity

#106 Posted by Funkydupe (3311 posts) -

@the_laughing_man: Ok. We still don't know whether all the tweets were about the same game. I don't think it is the Bioshock game though. It could be GoW or the Sniper 2 game.

#107 Posted by Humanity (9075 posts) -

What does Neogaf have to say about this?!

#108 Edited by Ramone (2963 posts) -

@animasta said:

@oldirtybearon: they can hint but they can't just say shit like that blatantly. If you're smart (like the OP was) you'll figure out what they're talking about, they're just trying to help the best way that won't get them into trouble with a large publishing company

That's bullshit. If they're so worried about what a publisher thinks then there's something critically fucking wrong with that relationship.

Don't be so fucking naive. Of course there's something wrong with that relationship but unfortunately, and I fucking hate this phrase, that's just the way it works.

#109 Edited by Fattony12000 (7323 posts) -

Is Jeff trying to play door games with a mouse?

@sweep said:

Anyone figured out how to use gifs on the new site?

They work just right, once you click on 'em. But it's been this way since seaserpent, I think? It's probably to do with the lack of inline HTML code embedding, which was the sexy feature that let us put SoundCloud, GIFs and Twitch videos all up in these guts.

#110 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

@the_laughing_man: Ok. We still don't know whether all the tweets were about the same game. I don't think it is the Bioshock game though. It could be GoW or the Sniper 2 game.

Still would love to know why OP jumped to Infinite.

#111 Edited by Jams (2960 posts) -

@fattony12000 said:

Is Jeff trying to play door games with a mouse?

@sweep said:

Anyone figured out how to use gifs on the new site?

They work just right, once you click on 'em. But it's been this way since seaserpent, I think? It's probably to do with the lack of inline HTML code embedding, which was the sexy feature that let us put SoundCloud, GIFs and Twitch videos all up in these guts.

#112 Posted by Hailinel (24429 posts) -

It could very well be SimCity, if this article relates to those tweets.

#114 Posted by Funkydupe (3311 posts) -

@jams: They've got to bring the html back. I hope it is only a temporary thing.

#115 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
#116 Posted by MocBucket62 (1207 posts) -

I think SimCity is the winner.

Garbage Frame Rate

Ha, it seems Jeff and Alex have some different views about SimCity. Looks like Alex will give it 4 or even 5 stars despite Jeff's gripes about its frame rate. Still, I think I'll stay away from SimCity if the frame rate is this bad.

Still wondering what Adam Sessler was playing that made him go insane within 3 hours?

#117 Posted by mosespippy (4133 posts) -

When I saw the tweet from Jeff the other day I just assumed it was TrackMania induced. Nothing in this thread has been able to convince me otherwise.

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#118 Edited by alternate (2700 posts) -

@the_laughing_man said:

I think SimCity is the winner.

Garbage Frame Rate

Ha, it seems Jeff and Alex have some different views about SimCity. Looks like Alex will give it 4 or even 5 stars despite Jeff's gripes about its frame rate. Still, I think I'll stay away from SimCity if the frame rate is this bad.

Still wondering what Adam Sessler was playing that made him go insane within 3 hours?

I can see the reviewers dilemma Especially if it is review code. Do you ignore things that are likely to be patched or resolved once the game is out - like server overload, bugs, inconstant frame rates you get but others don't - do you acknowledge the problems in the text but mark it based on assurances of an early fix or straight out mark it down and then revisit the review in a month or so after launch?

#119 Edited by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

@mocbucket62 said:

@the_laughing_man said:

I think SimCity is the winner.

Garbage Frame Rate

Ha, it seems Jeff and Alex have some different views about SimCity. Looks like Alex will give it 4 or even 5 stars despite Jeff's gripes about its frame rate. Still, I think I'll stay away from SimCity if the frame rate is this bad.

Still wondering what Adam Sessler was playing that made him go insane within 3 hours?

I can see the reviewers dilemma Especially if it is review code. Do you ignore things that are likely to be patched or resolved once the game is out - like server overload, bugs, inconstant frame rates you get but others don't - do you acknowledge the problems in the text but mark it based on assurances of an early fix or straight out mark it down and then revisit the review in a month or so after launch?

Thing is I have watched some beta game play and it looks fine. Jesse Cox on youtube played and even did fast forward and it looked fine.

#120 Edited by NickL (2246 posts) -

When I saw the tweet from Jeff the other day I just assumed it was TrackMania induced. Nothing in this thread has been able to convince me otherwise.

Jeff uses trackmania as a way of relaxing and doesn't seem to take his times too seriously. I highly doubt it's that.

#122 Posted by Chaser324 (6438 posts) -

FYI, in case nobody noticed, I moved this from the Bioshock Infinite forum to General Discussion because I don't think there's enough evidence that the tweets in the OP are about that game (...or that any two of them even refer to the same game).

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#123 Edited by louiedog (2335 posts) -

I saw other reviewers from sites over the last few days make similar vague statements, like "it's been awhile since I had to contact PR to get me unstuck in a game." There were at least 2 or 3 not mentioned here, and I think they were from smaller sites so maybe not as many people were watching them. I don't recall off the top of my head who they were and a quick twitter search hasn't helped.

When I saw those I immediately went to the upcoming release list and guessed God of War. I also believe someone said something about wanting to break a controller, so Sim City doesn't make much sense. Of course I missed Jeff's tweet about his mouse. God of War also seems like the kind of gameplay where design can get you into frustrating scenarios. I remember having issues like that with a prior game in the series (2 maybe?) and many of us probably remember Ryan's Dante's Inferno QL.

Whatever the game ends up being, I'd love to see a real time inbox of increasingly blame and panic riddled email headers going around the company and to PR.

#124 Posted by Funkydupe (3311 posts) -
#125 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7079 posts) -

It sounds like it's Sim City for Jeff but GoW: A for the others. Man, I hope this doesn't mean two big games end up disappointing.

#126 Edited by jakob187 (21665 posts) -
@hailinel said:

It could very well be SimCity, if this article relates to those tweets.

These are the types of things I DON'T want to hear. = (

*sigh* I'm going back to Civilization V.

#127 Edited by Superfriend (1545 posts) -

Oh god, some of this points to Sim City.. being.. shitty?

Who would have guessed?! I mean, how the fuck can you drop the ball on something like Sim City? Ugh, this is really frustrating. That game seemed so cool when they showed it.

Edit: Reading that Ars Technica article.. no subways, no inner city highways, only 250k citizens and small-ass cities. Bleigh!

#128 Edited by Nictel (2412 posts) -

Alex and Jeff had an entire discussion today about Sim City, they are enjoying the game despite it being buggy and broken.. Which is a major bummer.

#129 Posted by mtcantor (947 posts) -

Jesus I love you motherfuckers. You take five tweets over the weekend and make it into the Da Vinci Code.

#130 Edited by Pr1mus (3876 posts) -
@nictel said:

Alex and Jeff had an entire discussion today about Sim City, they are enjoying the game despite it being buggy and broken.. Which is a major bummer.

And as the discussion went along it seemed like Jeff likes it less and less. His last two tweets sure don't make it sound like he's having a good time.

I guess I'd feel a lot better about the SimCity always-online thing if I felt like the multiplayer/multiregion aspects of it were positives.

Instead they feel like a series of limitations that have me thinking more and more about reinstalling SC2K.

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#131 Edited by mrfluke (5131 posts) -

@mariachimacabre said:

It sounds like it's Sim City for Jeff but GoW: A for the others. Man, I hope this doesn't mean two big games end up disappointing.

ya pretty much this seems like the case.

#132 Posted by Sanity (1901 posts) -

@mrfluke said:

@mariachimacabre said:

It sounds like it's Sim City for Jeff but GoW: A for the others. Man, I hope this doesn't mean two big games end up disappointing.

ya pretty much this seems like the case.

Find out soon, live quick look in less then a hour.

#133 Edited by Jams (2960 posts) -

@mtcantor said:

Jesus I love you motherfuckers. You take five tweets over the weekend and make it into the Da Vinci Code.

If you go to Jeff's tumblr blog, click his eyeball 3 times, put on 3d glasses and sneeze, it'll open a secret page. Then you follow the money

#134 Posted by Alekss (327 posts) -

I'm pretty sure Jeff prefers a controller on PC games if he has the choice, so given the fact that this is being played with a mouse it may be Sim CIty after all; at the same time, Ryan would review Sim City....

God I hope Bioshock infinite isnt complete garbage. I expect the game to not be as good as that e3 trailer, but c'mon.

#135 Posted by Chaser324 (6438 posts) -

@alekss: Jeff was almost certainly talking about Sim City, and I'm pretty sure that Alex is reviewing it. Ryan probably would've done it, but he was on vacation.

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#136 Edited by Subjugation (4720 posts) -

I don't understand his grips about frame rate. I watched Jesse Cox (OMFGcata on Youtube) play over an hour of the beta and his frame rate was butter, even on cheetah speed.

#137 Edited by MocBucket62 (1207 posts) -

@mocbucket62 said:

@the_laughing_man said:

I think SimCity is the winner.

Garbage Frame Rate

Ha, it seems Jeff and Alex have some different views about SimCity. Looks like Alex will give it 4 or even 5 stars despite Jeff's gripes about its frame rate. Still, I think I'll stay away from SimCity if the frame rate is this bad.

Still wondering what Adam Sessler was playing that made him go insane within 3 hours?

I can see the reviewers dilemma Especially if it is review code. Do you ignore things that are likely to be patched or resolved once the game is out - like server overload, bugs, inconstant frame rates you get but others don't - do you acknowledge the problems in the text but mark it based on assurances of an early fix or straight out mark it down and then revisit the review in a month or so after launch?

Those are some very good points. Really curious to see if Alex mentions the bugs he's had in the review for SimCity.

#138 Posted by Flacracker (1661 posts) -

I think Jeff would have mentioned something so rage inducing the Sim City Quick Look. It don't think that is it.

#139 Posted by louiedog (2335 posts) -

I don't understand his grips about frame rate. I watched Jesse Cox (OMFGcata on Youtube) play over an hour of the beta and his frame rate was butter, even on cheetah speed.

I saw somewhere else that the slowdown occurs as the city size and number of things to simulate grows past a certain point. I don't know if that was achievable in the time limited beta.

#140 Posted by Subjugation (4720 posts) -

@louiedog said:

@subjugation said:

I don't understand his grips about frame rate. I watched Jesse Cox (OMFGcata on Youtube) play over an hour of the beta and his frame rate was butter, even on cheetah speed.

I saw somewhere else that the slowdown occurs as the city size and number of things to simulate grows past a certain point. I don't know if that was achievable in the time limited beta.

He wasn't playing a time limited beta. It actually looked like release code because nothing looked locked, but he called it beta in the videos. To be fair though, you may be right about the larger city stuff because his cities didn't get particularly large.

#141 Posted by Marz (5649 posts) -

seems more like a coincidence, instead of everyone tweeting about the same game having problems.

#142 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -

What game coming out this month that involves a mouse aside from Starcraft II?


#143 Posted by Lydian_Sel (2486 posts) -

When asked on Tumblr "Do you think it's possible that EA will ask for money in exchange for larger city area in SimCity?"

Jeff responded "Considering that the game seems to barely be able to keep up with the various simulations its running at the current city size, I doubt it"

My money is on Simcity.

#144 Edited by pyromagnestir (4302 posts) -

@sweep: drag and drop?

Why am I reading all of this crazy speculation? And holy shit Bioshock Infinite is coming out in a couple weeks?! I've been intentionally avoiding all prerelease stuff because I want to be surprised, hopefully in a good way.

#145 Edited by MordeaniisChaos (5730 posts) -

@oldirtybearon said:

I hate it when Arthur and other journalists talk massive shit on Twitter and when asked to explain, they clam up tighter than a virgin on prom night (well, my prom at least).

I know that doesn't do much as far as the topic goes, but it pisses me off. Keep your damn mouth closed if you can't talk about it.

It's twitter. If you want meaningful content, the fuck are you doing on Twitter? You're only hurting yourself expecting anything else. It's just a place to splurge random shit.

Also, considering Bioshock is 3 weeks away, that seems an unlikely candidate. I doubt review copies are out yet.

#146 Edited by johncallahan (559 posts) -

From what I can gather. It seems like Sessler and Gies are talking God of War. Arthur's been making allusions to it, Sessler all but confirmed it was Accession, plus he reviewed (I want to say all three) the God of War games back at G4 so he'd have the precedent to do it. Seems like Jeff was talking about something different, I'd assume Sim City.

#147 Posted by Salbert (40 posts) -

People in this thread need to take a deep breath.

And relax.

Meditate.

Then realize that video game reviews are the most worthless thing ever. And you should never pay attention to them under any circumstances.

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#148 Posted by Miketakon (514 posts) -

Wait I thought Gies worked for Microsoft?

#149 Edited by Daveyo520 (6688 posts) -

I really hope it isn't Bioshock, I have been looking forward to that forever.

#150 Posted by Salbert (40 posts) -

Guys, dozens of people have already played several hours of Infinite (Alex Navarro being one of them) and have not mentioned anything about the game being frustrating, in fact they've all been pretty GLOWING from what I've read.

And it's very, very, unlikely that any flaw that Bioshock Infinite would have would be that it's rage-inducing difficult, like what Jeff was alluding to. This isn't some quirky Japanese block puzzle game. It's a AAA mass-marketed FPS. These games aren't made to be frustrating anymore, and they haven't for a long time.

Furthermore, I don't understand why people look to Jeff for quality opinions on games. I love the man, and he has brilliant insight into the inner-workings of the game industry but he's probably the most irrational critic on this site. He said recently that Super Metroid and Metroid Prime were mediocre/bad. Yeah. Alex and Brad are the best reviewers here.

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