Worth Reading 03/07/13 - General Discussion

#151 Edited by Video_Game_King (29327 posts) - 2 months, 12 days ago

On that Metal Gear thing: is it possible Final Fantasy VII was doing the same thing, or at least something similar? Because reading it right now, Cloud's somebody that nobody liked as a kid and didn't really amount to much as an adult, so he made a fan-fic out of his life where he got to hang out his childhood hero (and was so obsessive about it that he drove the 30 year old into grey-haired insanity).

#152 Posted by Daharpinator (1 posts) - 2 months, 12 days ago

Thank you for the Journey video, Patrick.

#153 Edited by Ponyexpress (29 posts) - 2 months, 12 days ago

I kinda want to give Anita money now, as it seems to annoy just the type of people who I love to see whine and squirm.

#154 Edited by SparkleMotion (88 posts) - 2 months, 11 days ago

@ponyexpress: When did it become cool to want to annoy other people?

#155 Posted by animateria (3250 posts) - 2 months, 11 days ago

Oh boy, MH eh? I think I'm dreading the response that game will get already. I quit that game a bunch of times when I thought "oh I'll try this for a couple hours." Definitely need a 'mentor' to get a grasp of the game. Mine was YouTube but that isn't the same as someone teaching you the ropes.

I'd say go to the forums and find some vets to play with. You'll learn just by watching them. And they will give you pointers for sure.

#156 Edited by MormonWarrior (1580 posts) - 2 months, 11 days ago

EDIT: Wait, somebody in the comments used RE4 as an example, not the video which I hadn't finished yet. Oops!

It's interesting to see that girl use RE4 as a "damsel in distress" trope. That's a series that, from the very start, allowed you to have strong female protagonists, often running to the rescue of men. RE4 happened to have a girl to be rescued - and in that case, I don't even see it as much of a trope. Ada Wong is in that game, and turns out to be the ultimate nemesis in a way, showing prowess and ability that even Leon couldn't match. It seems to be the antithesis of her argument.

Otherwise, I feel like the "trope" comes from classic chivalry stories of knights rescuing kidnapped maidens/princesses from dragons. It's been subverted countless times in games and other media and I don't see it as a problem at all. Interesting discussion, but I almost don't see the issue. I'd like to see further development of the argument and see where it goes, if it has legs at all.

EDIT 2: "The belief that women are somehow a naturally weaker gender is a deeply-ingrained, socially-constructed myth, which of course is completely false."

There's a loaded statement. What is she talking about exactly? Physically, more than nine times out of ten a man of similar size to a woman can overpower her. Men are built with more muscle mass (in general) than women. So from a strictly biological, physical perspective men are stronger. That's not necessarily talking about prowess in certain athletics, scholarly pursuits, or general worth and capability, etc. etc. But there's a reason men and women don't directly compete in a lot of sports, and it has nothing to do with artificial gender roles or sexism.

I do, however, find it important to make sure we as a global society check ourselves constantly to make sure we aren't making sweeping assumptions about people based purely on race, sex, ethnicity, etc. The video was very interesting to watch and could prove important moving forward as games continue to grow up and expand.

Wow, that's a wall of text. Sorry about that, I just had a lot to write there...

#157 Posted by Azurath (202 posts) - 2 months, 11 days ago

God dammit Patrick! You fucking got me excited for an indie game. Darkwood looks amazing.

#158 Edited by beeryayghost (295 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

The negativity in the comments of the Sessler GoW review is astounding. The internet is a horrible place.