Remember when people thought this might be the game to make the wii look like a bordeline Ps3/360 game?
How about it doesn't even compete with Halo 2 and those good games still? How about it looks just like any other wii game?
Conduit
http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14248157/the-conduit/videos/conduit_devfeaturesvid_011509.html
Halo 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8E97FkvOKY
Why do Wii games continue to look worse than last generation games? How about stop trying to go beyond your boundaries. Make things look good with what you have.
Maybe it's just the fact that the Conduit is trying to push but fails and Halo 2 has an art style that makes it not age as badly, but seriously?
Never mind competiting with Conker
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/6559.html
wow, the Conduits Graphics absolutely suck
^ I'm not hating on the conduit itself, even though I think it's just a meh generic shooter.
that being said, it is a game being hyped for its graphics...somehow
Well, I'd hate to say that when competiting with Xbox games . . . competiting? . . . you'd see the Conduit has much better lighting effects than the last generation systems. That makes a large difference.
"^ I'm not hating on the conduit itself, even though I think it's just a meh generic shooter.Uh, yeah. It's being hyped as a good looking game....FOR WII.
that being said, it is a game being hyped for its graphics...somehow"
Of course it's not going to look impressive when compared to other recent FPS games on other (stronger) consoles.
I'm officially not acknowledging Wii graphic complaints any more because everyone and their Wii-playing grandma knows that the Wii's graphics arent' great.
"Looks like a cool game, but yeah first thing I thought when I saw that was "is that goldeneye for the N64?""I think everyone on this site needs a memory jolt every 5 minutes so we can avoid idiocy.
I don't recall such nonsense happening at all myself, here or elsewhere on other game sites.
I was suitably impressed. It looked a little oversaturated (may be the quality of the video capture or something) but that aside was rather impressive.
It's hyped for it's graphics because it's going to be one of the better looking Wii games out there. And it's attempting to do a lot of things that will be awesome for Wii-only owners.
Personally, this game will not be for me, but a lot of the Wii audience will totally lap this up.
The thing is guys. I directly compare wii games to Ps3 and 360 games graphically. When I played Mario Galaxy, I didn't say "wow, this looks good for a wii game". No, when I thought about the graphics I was thinking "wow, this looks meh. not bad because they know their limits, but meh".
Why shouldn't I exactly? The wii costs more than a 360.
That's because your piece of shit system has a failure rate higher than the LITERACY RATE OF CANADA.
"The thing is guys. I directly compare wii games to Ps3 and 360 games graphically. When I played Mario Galaxy, I didn't say "wow, this looks good for a wii game". No, when I thought about the graphics I was thinking "wow, this looks meh. not bad because they know their limits, but meh".By this logic you should also compare how good the motion sensing capabilities of 360 games are to that of Wii games.
Why shouldn't I exactly? The wii costs more than a 360."
The Conduit is being hyped for the graphics is displays ON THE WII, so take it for what it is. Moreover, this game is far more fluid, solid, and offers better textures than what Halo 2 did. Therefore, I don't understand your gripes for being anything more than Halo fanboyism, Smug.
"The thing is guys. I directly compare wii games to Ps3 and 360 games graphically. When I played Mario Galaxy, I didn't say "wow, this looks good for a wii game". No, when I thought about the graphics I was thinking "wow, this looks meh. not bad because they know their limits, but meh".But as opposed to the 360, the Wii has motion control. When I play Dead Space on my 360, I don't think "wow, these controls are meh. Not bad because they have their limits, but meh". I think "wow, this controls good for a 360 shooter".
Why shouldn't I exactly? The wii costs more than a 360."
"SmugDarkLoser said:"The thing is guys. I directly compare wii games to Ps3 and 360 games graphically. When I played Mario Galaxy, I didn't say "wow, this looks good for a wii game". No, when I thought about the graphics I was thinking "wow, this looks meh. not bad because they know their limits, but meh".By this logic you should also compare how good the motion sensing capabilities of 360 games to that of Wii games."
Why shouldn't I exactly? The wii costs more than a 360."
Yea, we do.
That being said, motion isn't exactly better than a regular controller.
All consoles have a standard comparison. Even with persona 4, I'm directly comparing the graphics. There's no reason not to. If not we should say graphics now are better than the past.
This is only different, to an extent, with handhelds as they are well, portable.
Because if not we can't possibly make Ps3 Xbox 360 comparisons when obviously they have different hardware strengths.
It's just foolish to hype a wii game for having good graphics. I play my 360. I play my wii. It's not exactly relative in any way
"That's because your piece of shit system has a failure rate higher than the LITERACY RATE OF CANADA."Fantastic. Can't help but laugh. Can this be considered as (what forum goers call) a "meltdown"?
Did Smug just suggest that Mario Galaxy was a bad looking game by the way? I thought that game looked absolutely brilliant.
"Arkthemaniac said:"That's because your piece of shit system has a failure rate higher than the LITERACY RATE OF CANADA."Fantastic. Can't help but laugh. Can this be considered as (what forum goers call) a "meltdown".
Did Smug just suggest that Mario Galaxy was a bad looking game by the way? I thought that game looked absolutely brilliant."
I thought Mario looked okay. It was fine for what it did. Unlike the conduit, it didn't push over what it could with a frizz like look to the screen.
The conduit just has this "i look bad quality" trying to push for something good. Mario just made with what it had.
That being said, Kameo has a similar style and that looks awesome. Same with Banjo and Blue Dragon.
"Edgar said:I guess At the Movies would be considered motion sensing. But, hmmm, I think I would agree that motion sensing should be treated the same as regular non-motion sensing controls. Good point."SmugDarkLoser said:"The thing is guys. I directly compare wii games to Ps3 and 360 games graphically. When I played Mario Galaxy, I didn't say "wow, this looks good for a wii game". No, when I thought about the graphics I was thinking "wow, this looks meh. not bad because they know their limits, but meh".By this logic you should also compare how good the motion sensing capabilities of 360 games to that of Wii games."
Why shouldn't I exactly? The wii costs more than a 360."
Yea, we do.
That being said, motion isn't exactly better than a regular controller.
All consoles have a standard comparison. Even with persona 4, I'm directly comparing the graphics. There's no reason not to. If not we should say graphics now are better than the past.
This is only different, to an extent, with handhelds as they are well, portable.
"
That being said, there must be a better way to express your opinion rather saying "these graphics suck."
"It's lazy of Nintendo to develop such a technically backward console as the Wii. I have lost all respect for them."Their bank manager hasn't. Touche?
Dude, The Conduit looks fantastic, especially considering it's a Wii game. Besides, some of the things they're doing are revolutionary for an FPS period.
"That's because your piece of shit system has a failure rate higher than the LITERACY RATE OF CANADA."Now that's just as bad if not worse than Smug. Remember what happened when you broke down last time Ark? That wasn't pretty. Avoid that. For all of our sakes.
Anyway, that footage impressed me a lot. Not many other games even bother trying to bring as much out of the Wii as The Conduit is. The game looks smooth, fun, and I look forward to hopefully picking it up.
"It's lazy of Nintendo to develop such a technically backward console as the Wii. I have lost all respect for them."Good job you win now please leave through the door from whence you came which shall be your punishment for being a broken record.
"Arkthemaniac said:Too late, just did."That's because your piece of shit system has a failure rate higher than the LITERACY RATE OF CANADA."Now that's just as bad if not worse than Smug. Remember what happened when you broke down last time Ark? That wasn't pretty. Avoid that. For all of our sakes.
Anyway, that footage impressed me a lot. Not many other games even bother trying to bring as much out of the Wii as The Conduit is. The game looks smooth, fun, and I look forward to hopefully picking it up."
"SmugDarkLoser said:"Edgar said:I guess At the Movies would be considered motion sensing. But, hmmm, I think I would agree that motion sensing should be treated the same as regular non-motion sensing controls. Good point."SmugDarkLoser said:"The thing is guys. I directly compare wii games to Ps3 and 360 games graphically. When I played Mario Galaxy, I didn't say "wow, this looks good for a wii game". No, when I thought about the graphics I was thinking "wow, this looks meh. not bad because they know their limits, but meh".By this logic you should also compare how good the motion sensing capabilities of 360 games to that of Wii games."
Why shouldn't I exactly? The wii costs more than a 360."
Yea, we do.
That being said, motion isn't exactly better than a regular controller.
All consoles have a standard comparison. Even with persona 4, I'm directly comparing the graphics. There's no reason not to. If not we should say graphics now are better than the past.
This is only different, to an extent, with handhelds as they are well, portable.
"
That being said, there must be a better way to express your opinion rather saying "these graphics suck.""
Well, you know, I like coming down harsh, teh lulz?
It's just this game doesn't look good graphically. I just saw this video and I was stunned. It looks no better than what I played on the Ps2 last gen.
I compare the Conduit's graphics directly with Killzone 2, Star Ocean 4, Gears of War, etc.
"I'd honestly like to know exactly who had any brief hope the conduit would look like anything special, yet I kept hearing so many times about its visuals, and they looked barely like an updated half life 1 imo. The game "Black" for the Xbox looks far superior in terms of quality that even that, and they had the extra few effects like depth of field and blur that the conduit is trying to make sound "mindblowing". Until proven wrong one day, if ever, as far as now we've never seen a game on the Wii that even looks as good as some Xbox 1 games. And no, don't say super mario galaxy, because the game did look good visually, but it was all the way they did the art style, not at all technically. I think that's what the Wii should do, people should just try different art styles that look good, because its never going to have the technical chops to "look good" that way at all.Remember when people thought this might be the game to make the wii look like a bordeline Ps3/360 game?
"
How about it doesn't even compete with Halo 2 and those good games still? How about it looks just like any other wii game?
Conduit
http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14248157/the-conduit/videos/conduit_devfeaturesvid_011509.html
Halo 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8E97FkvOKY
Why do Wii games continue to look worse than last generation games? How about stop trying to go beyond your boundaries. Make things look good with what you have.
Maybe it's just the fact that the Conduit is trying to push but fails and Halo 2 has an art style that makes it not age as badly, but seriously?
Never mind competiting with Conker
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/6559.html
And anyway. How old is that video? I remember hearing how they had stepped up the graphics after switching engines, but I could be wrong."That video was released today along another video that focuses more on the progress they made. Some of the rooms look pretty blocky but the character models however look really good. The game looks like it is running really smooth, fragfest ahoy.
"^ are we being serious here? that looks no better than anything last gen"You're looking through rose tinted glasses. Those new Conduit videos (particularly the one Endogene linked to) show lighting far superior to anything last generation. It's certainly a little rough around the edges and needs smoothing out I'm not denying that but, I think it looks fantastic so far.
How far from release is it? I just feel if they can soften some of the colours it's going to look genuinely very impressive.
"^ are we being serious here? that looks no better than anything last gen"Uh, no.
It's a damn, good game and even if the graphics aren't cream of the crop, all of the gameplay elements are customizable.
I'd hate to think that I'm socializing with a graphics whore. Remember fellows, gameplay is the key ingredient to a good game, not graphics.
So if the graphics suck (by your standards), I can live with that :)
"^ are we being serious here? that looks no better than anything last gen"What were you expecting? Killzone 2 graphics? The Wii is using last generation hardware and the Conduit is looking really good for using old technology.
"SmugDarkLoser said:"^ are we being serious here? that looks no better than anything last gen"You're looking through rose tinted glasses. Those new Conduit videos (particularly the one Endogene linked to) show lighting far superior to anything last generation. It's certainly a little rough around the edges and needs smoothing out I'm not denying that but, I think it looks fantastic so far.
How far from release is it? I just feel if they can soften some of the colours it's going to look genuinely very impressive."
You know what. The Riddick looks significantly better than anything on xbox
"CoolDrMoney said:Same. I really like Halo 2 and 3's multiplayer gameplay, but the community is just about as bad as people say they are."It's cool how you manage to make Halo fans look even worse with every post you make"The only problem I have ever had with Halo was the people who played it."
It's kind of hard to make graphics as good as an XBOX, when your console is only capable of half the resolution. No wii game will look as good as Halo 2 or Conker ever. Nintendo made sure of that when they gave the wii 800 mhz of processing power and a graphics card from 2002. And the fact that wii's heat up more than a 360 is extremely disturbing. Nintendo fucked this one up, not the developers of "The conduit".
It's releasing in Spring of this year, get2sammyb, probably after MadWorld.
And the fact that wii's heat up more than a 360 is extremely disturbing.
I think if anything though the devs really should focus more on show a lot more gameplay and anything anyone maybe hasn't seen yet, I mean if its a totally solid fun game that's one thing, but it seems the only thing they're interested in is showing its tech, and since its not impressive at all I think its kind of a mistake.
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