Youtube Spam needs to not be a rule

Or it needs to be severely toned down, because people abuse it. Every time people don't like the video, they call it youtube spam, they report it, and the topic gets closed right away. But no one reports a topic were they like the video. 
 
Look, even if there is only a one sentence description, as long as there is a description that isnt: "this video is funny" it shouldn't be deleted or locked. Also, if the description follows the video because it needs to be explained chronologically in that order to make sense or work, DO NOT delete it or lock it. Similarly, if they edit in a description after being warned, dont close the topic.
 
However, if there is no description, or the description provided is meaningless, delete it.  
 
Examples:
  Abuse of youtube spam rule (also: http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion/30/my-top-11-games/438803/)
 
Legit youtube spam 
 
Let's tone this crazy rule done, ya?

Maybe we should have a general "Youtube" thread?

I don't see anything wrong with the rules we have. It prevents a metric fuck ton of unnecessary threads.

" I don't see anything wrong with the rules we have. It prevents a metric fuck ton of unnecessary threads. "

" Maybe we should have a general "Youtube" thread? "

" I don't see anything wrong with the rules we have. It prevents a metric fuck ton of unnecessary threads. "

A YouTube spam is when a topic gets created with bare minimal sentences, probably less than a paragraph. The lack of writing qualifies as a YouTube spam; because there isn't anything productive that comes out of the thread.

no youtube spam is the best rule ever.

How is that "legit" thread legit in any way? It's Youtube spam. 
 
Wait, now I'm not sure which videos you meant should be exceptions and which you meant should not be. They're all spam in my opinion though.

No, the mods are too lenient on spam in general  
Quest spam, in particular, is still fucking everywhere

" no youtube spam is the best rule ever. "

" I don't see anything wrong with the rules we have. It prevents a metric fuck ton of unnecessary threads. "

" @bonbolapti said:

" no youtube spam is the best rule ever. "

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" @Axxol said:

" I don't see anything wrong with the rules we have. It prevents a metric fuck ton of unnecessary threads. "

Certainly rules that prevent spam are good, but what if the video drives a discussion and the description focuses the attention of the discussion?  That isn't spam--that's a true to life thread, and some threads are being wrongly closed. "

" How is that "legit" thread legit in any way? It's Youtube spam.  Wait, now I'm not sure which videos you meant should be exceptions and which you meant should not be. They're all spam in my opinion though. "

It's annoying in that anytime a video is posted everyone calls youtube spam, but as long as you have something to say to encourage discussion then it won't be locked. 

" @nirokogaseru said:

" @Axxol said:

" I don't see anything wrong with the rules we have. It prevents a metric fuck ton of unnecessary threads. "

Certainly rules that prevent spam are good, but what if the video drives a discussion and the description focuses the attention of the discussion?  That isn't spam--that's a true to life thread, and some threads are being wrongly closed. "

No, it means that the OP (of the YouTube spam) is too fucking lazy to write. Anybody can post YouTube videos all day and claim that it's "True To Life". If they have an issue with abiding by this rule, they can simply post them on another site that allows it. "

It's a great rule. 

Best way: check the thread. If it's a legit thread that just happens to focus on a YouTube video, then awesome, keep it. Otherwise, fuck 'em

I agree it's a dumb rule. Someone just posts a video as part their thread and it's all "oh Shit youtube smapz oh noes"

If the youtube video cannot inspire the threadmaker to think of something substantive with which to start the thread off, then the video does not deserve its own thread on Giant Bomb.

I think it's a good rule overall, it's more in the way it's enforced. A lot of the time people post threads about youtube videos that are gaming related, which usually don't get closed.
 
I would much rather see the rule revised to suit all contexts rather than outright removing the rule.

" I say if it's valuable to the community it should stay, the tough part is knowing when something is valuable or not. "

Sometimes the mods get out of hand with it. To think that no videos can incite some discussion on their own is just stupid.

" Just posting the video up is asking for a direction-less discussion.  "

" If the youtube video cannot inspire the threadmaker to think of something substantive with which to start the thread off, then the video does not deserve its own thread on Giant Bomb. "

" @Axxol: If the discussion centers around a video, then why is it inappropriate to post the source video. For instance, I saw one thread closed about a video the guy made--he wanted comments for improvement.  That being said, illustrations are few and far between. The GB Mods are pretty good at what they do. "

People really do go overboard with policing the boards. I made a thread about a woman calling Google because she couldn't figure out how to use google when they did the thing for Pac Man's birthday and the first like... four responses were people saying "YOUTUBE SPAMM!!!"

The rule is fine as it is.

" @demontium:  
 
I find that rule a joke.  
 
Look at the last Halo  threads: 
 
http://www.giantbomb.com/halo-reach/61-26786/meet-nobel-team-vidoc/35-438957/#37  
 
http://www.giantbomb.com/halo-reach/61-26786/halo-reach-live-action-trailer/35-438909/#14 I reported at least one of them, and i'm sure mods saw it, and did nothing.     People should be allowed to construct a topic around a video, or not at all. it shouldn't be because of not upsetting a lot of people.  "

" @AjayRaz said:

" @bonbolapti said:

" no youtube spam is the best rule ever. "

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" @Jeust said:

" @demontium:  
 
I find that rule a joke.  
 
Look at the last Halo  threads: 
 
http://www.giantbomb.com/halo-reach/61-26786/meet-nobel-team-vidoc/35-438957/#37  
 
http://www.giantbomb.com/halo-reach/61-26786/halo-reach-live-action-trailer/35-438909/#14 I reported at least one of them, and i'm sure mods saw it, and did nothing.     People should be allowed to construct a topic around a video, or not at all. it shouldn't be because of not upsetting a lot of people.  "

In my opinion, the first vid doc video is fine because it tells the game and provides discussion about ya know, a video game. This is a video game site after all. The second one is about Halo, but is just kinda a trailer. Not much to say besides "cool". "

Ok. What if the video has a means of discussion? I decide to post up a video instead of typing what I need to say. Does that count as YouTube spam? I can understand if someone's posting something that's considered funny, but has no means of discussion. However, what about other kinds of videos? I say just make the mods jobs harder and make them go through the videos that are posted and see for themselves if it merits discussion.

Ok? So, we can't post videos that we want to share with the community, but we can have threads such as : What can I do now that im single? My girlfriend is being an ass, help me! Favorite movies?. All I am saying this that whether or not a youtube video does not have a long description, but DOES stimulate the community, that SHOULDN'T be labeled as spam. Hell, at the very least, GB should limit the number of pointless threads with new rules or something.

" People really do go overboard with policing the boards. I made a thread about a woman calling Google because she couldn't figure out how to use google when they did the thing for Pac Man's birthday and the first like... four responses were people saying "YOUTUBE SPAMM!!!" "

" Ok. What if the video has a means of discussion? I decide to post up a video instead of typing what I need to say. Does that count as YouTube spam? I can understand if someone's posting something that's considered funny, but has no means of discussion. However, what about other kinds of videos? I say just make the mods jobs harder and make them go through the videos that are posted and see for themselves if it merits discussion. "

Actually, it absolutely needs to be a rule.

The rule should be used on a case-by-case basis.  
 
And also, have you clowns ever thought that, instead of bitching and complaining and shrieking "YOUTUBE SPAM! FLAGGED!" you could actually try to reap conversation out of the video instead of contributing to the spam yourselves?  Too many retards on this forum not thinking logically.

" @iAmJohn said:

" @AjayRaz said:

" @bonbolapti said:

" no youtube spam is the best rule ever. "

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If you want to watch youtube videos, go to youtube.  
@demontium: Do you not realize the irony of calling that link "legit youtube spam?" "

It can be the dumbest youtube video ever. As long as the you  write the reason you believe its necessary to have a topic. Or ask a question you want answered I'm fine with it. For the abuse example your provided if the user embed or link the the movies and then wrote something along the lines of " Here is a 2 part video show casing my top 11 favorite video games. Do you agree with my choices and/or what are yours" then topic would have been fine trust me.

" @error5305 said:

" @iAmJohn said:

" @AjayRaz said:

" @bonbolapti said:

" no youtube spam is the best rule ever. "

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If you want to watch youtube videos, go to youtube.  
@demontium: Do you not realize the irony of calling that link "legit youtube spam?" "

I think the rule is fine, but what I and some other people on this thread seem to take issue with is the fact that sometimes a video WILL be posted with a paragraph or two as a good discussion point and still be closed as spam. "

Yeah, but then there would be a ton of spam.  
 
I don't see what's wrong with the rule.  

" The rule should be used on a case-by-case basis.  
 
And also, have you clowns ever thought that, instead of bitching and complaining and shrieking "YOUTUBE SPAM! FLAGGED!" you could actually try to reap conversation out of the video instead of contributing to the spam yourselves?  Too many retards on this forum not thinking logically. "

Both of these videos seem to be spam to me.  I like the rules as they are.

ugh, why would i want a bunch of low content, no effort, uninteresting youtube threads clogging up my precious forums? 
 
now, if you'll excuse me, there are some "what is ur favorite *blank*" and "gurls are weird" threads that require my attention.

I vote for a separate video section in the forums.  

" @kmdrkul said:

" The rule should be used on a case-by-case basis.  
 
And also, have you clowns ever thought that, instead of bitching and complaining and shrieking "YOUTUBE SPAM! FLAGGED!" you could actually try to reap conversation out of the video instead of contributing to the spam yourselves?  Too many retards on this forum not thinking logically. "

So any video is allowed, since someone can start a conversation around it. Check this out: 
 
Let me show you how your "logic" works. 
 
  Here's the OP:

   
 
Here are the comments: 
 
Sniper Killa: That Dingo ate my baby 
 
Woopy Poopy: Cool Bro 
 
Mupa Koopa : I'd Totally bone dat whale bro 
 
Kimmy Cat:  Do you guys use make-up? My boyfriend does :)
   
King Uppy Cuppy: Wowzers gang! Check out my video, it's better  "