Are all the good games now a days "M" rated games?

Topic started by giyanks22 on June 11, 2009. Last post by Shadow2K6 4 months, 4 weeks ago.
Post by giyanks22 (1,371 posts) See mini bio
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if you look back at the past two years. The best games from each year are all M rated.

2007:
The Orange Box
COD 4 MW
Halo 3
Mass Effect
BIoshock
Assassin's Creed

2008:
GTAIV
MGS4
Fallout 3
Fable II
Dead Space
The only good Non "M" games from 08 are Battlefield Bad Company and Civilization Revolution (in my opinion)

Why is this. Is it to hard to make a non M rated game that is really...really good???


Post by giantwhitewhale (17 posts) See mini bio
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If you make a game that is meant to be "M" you are given more creative options


Post by TheKidNixon (1,091 posts) See mini bio
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I think it really varies from genre to genre; most shooters are going to be M due to the level of violence constantly happening in the game. Nearly all of the games you mentioned have a strong shooter or violent aesthetic to them, and with the level of graphical fidelity to them, its hard not to tread into M territory. Or if you are making games that violent, the changes you would make to hinder the action would censor more than help.

A general list of great games that have come out in 2007 and 2008 that weren't rated M:

Super Mario Galaxy
Burnout: Paradise
Portal (I know you mentioned the Orange Box, but I felt it necessary to point at that one portion of it actually did get a T rating)
Virtual Fighter 5
Lost Planet
Overlord
Metroid Prime 3
Zack and Wiki
Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Skate (and Skate 2)
Prince of Persia
Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise

I also feel I should point out that my current GotY for the first half of 2009 is Street Fighter IV, a T-rated game.



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Overlord is an awesome game.


Post by Lind_L_Taylor (1,181 posts) See mini bio
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It depends on your definition of great.  I thought Culdcept Saga was great & it's not M-rated, but it wasn't a best seller either.



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Just about every JRPG is rated T, although occassionally there's an M.  Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Infinite, Tales, Enchanted Arms--> all T.   Last Remnant is M and I'm sure Resonance of Fate will be M (guns + religious themes)



Post by Subject2Change (1,159 posts) See mini bio
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inFAMOUS - Rated Teen and is a great game.

"Really Good" is quite subjective and when your list of games from 07 & 08 only contains games revolved around shooting and violence as well as vulgarity and often sex, what do you expect?


Post by MattyFTM (6,611 posts) See mini bio
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There are a tonne of great T and E rated games out there.


Post by Black_Rose (6,063 posts) See mini bio

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No, just this year we've had Punch Out!!, Street Fighter IV, Boom Blox II, Patapon 2, Klonoa, Excitebots, Rhythm Heaven,  Empire: Total War, Flower and Skate 2. All great games rated E and T.


Post by JeffGoldblum (1,451 posts) See mini bio
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In my opinion a developer should make a game first and worry about the rating later. If this means all games are "M" that is fine with me.
Also the American sense of what is good and what is bad is terribly skewed. Hundreds of people can die but at the first sex scene a game is "Ao"


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banjo and uncharted as well


Post by pause422 (3,934 posts) See mini bio
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@giantwhitewhale said:
" If you make a game that is meant to be "M" you are given more creative options "
Yeah because most M games nowadays are creative.....


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Why does it matter?


Post by Meowayne (2,696 posts) See mini bio
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This thread makes me sad.


Post by Snail (3,573 posts) See mini bio
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Most of them, I guess.


Post by SuperMooseman (2,246 posts) See mini bio
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Some people rate games higher just because they are mature.


Post by VeNoM (37 posts) See mini bio
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inFAMOUS is pretty awesome and it was T rated. So it is possible for  T rated game to be good.


Post by mrcool11 (121 posts) See mini bio
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@pause422 said:
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@giantwhitewhale said:
" If you make a game that is meant to be "M" you are given more creative options "
Yeah because most M games nowadays are creative..... "
dude, you can't put boning in a T-rated game


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It's not that it's impossible for T or E rated games to be great, but when developpers don't have a specific rating to worry about they can jam more awesome things in a game without having to worry bout' the ESRB's opinion


Post by Red (2,861 posts) See mini bio
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I really don't know why that is. Uncharted is the only good new franchise that hasn't been rated M. It is probably because of the stupid assumptions that come with an "M" game.


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I thought Ratchet and Clank: Tools of destruction was supposed to be one of the best that came out in 2007?


Post by AgentJ (6,378 posts) See mini bio
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No, its just that games arent rated as good (and sell well) anymore unless they have gratuitious blood and sailor swearing. 


Post by Rhaknar (233 posts) See mini bio
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is Uncharted rated M?


Post by TheMustacheHero (3,226 posts) See mini bio
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@Pibo47 said:
" Overlord is an awesome game. "
Overlord is a terrible game.

Anyways, most games are Rated M because it gives the devs more creative freedom, scripts can be said however they want and they can use gore or blood to put out emotion ( Like when Raiden got his arms cut off in MGS4).


Post by canucks23 (48 posts) See mini bio
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Uncharted and BFBC were both T and both amazing, but it's looking like their sequels will both probably be M lol



Post by Rhaknar (233 posts) See mini bio
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how the hell is battlefield bad company rated T? i thought all war games were automatically M?


Post by natetodamax (6,686 posts) See mini bio
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Yes, and your list lacks Gears of War


Post by GrilledCheez01 (727 posts) See mini bio
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Honestly most of them are...I noticed this awhile ago and it seems to still be holding true.


Post by PercyChuggs (922 posts) See mini bio
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Well this is an easy one. No.


Post by bjorno (597 posts) See mini bio
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kids cant afford to buy videogames, so fuck em.