Are all the good games now a days "M" rated games?

Topic started by giyanks22 on June 11, 2009. Last post by Shadow2K6 5 months, 2 weeks ago.
Post by giyanks22 (1,408 posts) See mini bio
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if you look back at the past two years. The best games from each year are all M rated.

2007:
The Orange Box
COD 4 MW
Halo 3
Mass Effect
BIoshock
Assassin's Creed

2008:
GTAIV
MGS4
Fallout 3
Fable II
Dead Space
The only good Non "M" games from 08 are Battlefield Bad Company and Civilization Revolution (in my opinion)

Why is this. Is it to hard to make a non M rated game that is really...really good???


Post by giantwhitewhale (17 posts) See mini bio
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If you make a game that is meant to be "M" you are given more creative options


Post by TheKidNixon (1,154 posts) See mini bio
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I think it really varies from genre to genre; most shooters are going to be M due to the level of violence constantly happening in the game. Nearly all of the games you mentioned have a strong shooter or violent aesthetic to them, and with the level of graphical fidelity to them, its hard not to tread into M territory. Or if you are making games that violent, the changes you would make to hinder the action would censor more than help.

A general list of great games that have come out in 2007 and 2008 that weren't rated M:

Super Mario Galaxy
Burnout: Paradise
Portal (I know you mentioned the Orange Box, but I felt it necessary to point at that one portion of it actually did get a T rating)
Virtual Fighter 5
Lost Planet
Overlord
Metroid Prime 3
Zack and Wiki
Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Skate (and Skate 2)
Prince of Persia
Viva PiƱata: Trouble in Paradise

I also feel I should point out that my current GotY for the first half of 2009 is Street Fighter IV, a T-rated game.



Post by Pibo47 (1,740 posts) See mini bio
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Overlord is an awesome game.


Post by Lind_L_Taylor (1,219 posts) See mini bio
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It depends on your definition of great.  I thought Culdcept Saga was great & it's not M-rated, but it wasn't a best seller either.



Post by SmugDarkLoser (4,044 posts) See mini bio
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Just about every JRPG is rated T, although occassionally there's an M.  Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Infinite, Tales, Enchanted Arms--> all T.   Last Remnant is M and I'm sure Resonance of Fate will be M (guns + religious themes)



Post by Subject2Change (1,180 posts) See mini bio
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inFAMOUS - Rated Teen and is a great game.

"Really Good" is quite subjective and when your list of games from 07 & 08 only contains games revolved around shooting and violence as well as vulgarity and often sex, what do you expect?


Post by MattyFTM (6,736 posts) See mini bio
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There are a tonne of great T and E rated games out there.


Post by Black_Rose (6,172 posts) See mini bio

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No, just this year we've had Punch Out!!, Street Fighter IV, Boom Blox II, Patapon 2, Klonoa, Excitebots, Rhythm Heaven,  Empire: Total War, Flower and Skate 2. All great games rated E and T.


Post by JeffGoldblum (1,531 posts) See mini bio
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In my opinion a developer should make a game first and worry about the rating later. If this means all games are "M" that is fine with me.
Also the American sense of what is good and what is bad is terribly skewed. Hundreds of people can die but at the first sex scene a game is "Ao"


Post by ponyslayer (117 posts) See mini bio
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banjo and uncharted as well


Post by pause422 (4,105 posts) See mini bio
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@giantwhitewhale said:
" If you make a game that is meant to be "M" you are given more creative options "
Yeah because most M games nowadays are creative.....


Post by MC_Izawa (521 posts) See mini bio
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Why does it matter?


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This thread makes me sad.


Post by Snail (3,626 posts) See mini bio
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Most of them, I guess.


Post by SuperMooseman (2,246 posts) See mini bio
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Some people rate games higher just because they are mature.


Post by VeNoM (37 posts) See mini bio
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inFAMOUS is pretty awesome and it was T rated. So it is possible for  T rated game to be good.


Post by mrcool11 (137 posts) See mini bio
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@pause422 said:
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@giantwhitewhale said:
" If you make a game that is meant to be "M" you are given more creative options "
Yeah because most M games nowadays are creative..... "
dude, you can't put boning in a T-rated game


Post by addictedtopinescent (1,936 posts) See mini bio

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It's not that it's impossible for T or E rated games to be great, but when developpers don't have a specific rating to worry about they can jam more awesome things in a game without having to worry bout' the ESRB's opinion


Post by Red (2,967 posts) See mini bio
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I really don't know why that is. Uncharted is the only good new franchise that hasn't been rated M. It is probably because of the stupid assumptions that come with an "M" game.


Post by Absurd (2,457 posts) See mini bio
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I thought Ratchet and Clank: Tools of destruction was supposed to be one of the best that came out in 2007?


Post by AgentJ (6,537 posts) See mini bio
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No, its just that games arent rated as good (and sell well) anymore unless they have gratuitious blood and sailor swearing. 


Post by Rhaknar (409 posts) See mini bio
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is Uncharted rated M?


Post by TheMustacheHero (3,411 posts) See mini bio
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@Pibo47 said:
" Overlord is an awesome game. "
Overlord is a terrible game.

Anyways, most games are Rated M because it gives the devs more creative freedom, scripts can be said however they want and they can use gore or blood to put out emotion ( Like when Raiden got his arms cut off in MGS4).


Post by canucks23 (52 posts) See mini bio
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Uncharted and BFBC were both T and both amazing, but it's looking like their sequels will both probably be M lol



Post by Rhaknar (409 posts) See mini bio
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how the hell is battlefield bad company rated T? i thought all war games were automatically M?


Post by natetodamax (7,037 posts) See mini bio
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Yes, and your list lacks Gears of War


Post by GrilledCheez01 (745 posts) See mini bio
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Honestly most of them are...I noticed this awhile ago and it seems to still be holding true.


Post by PercyChuggs (927 posts) See mini bio
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Well this is an easy one. No.


Post by bjorno (609 posts) See mini bio
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kids cant afford to buy videogames, so fuck em.