Forza 3 Already whooped GT5. Links 56k=murder

Topic started by Dr_Cash on June 1, 2009. Last post by AndrewGaspar 5 months ago.
Post by JoshS (242 posts) See mini bio
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@The_A_Drain: I'm not going to lie and say I never used one in the game, but the first time I took it on the track, I was bored out of my mind. Going at a top speed of 60MPH is in no way FUN. :P


Post by The_A_Drain (3,216 posts) See mini bio
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@JoshS:

Haha, should try one for real, those things are like fucking go karts, it's amazing! No suspension AT ALL. So much fun haha, only problem is while you get vintage insurance (might as well not even be paying it it's so cheap) the upkeep cost is horrendous because they fall apart to damned easy.


Post by Godzilla_Sushi (222 posts) See mini bio
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@thiago said:
" Forza = the one that is not Gran TurismoSeriously, it needs to eat a lot of rice and beans to get to the level of what Gran Turismo offers. "
So how long did it take you to finish Forza 2 when you decided it wasn't as good?


Post by Meteora (747 posts) See mini bio
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What's taking GT5 so bloody long? FM2 came out and now we're getting FM3...

Graphically both games will look pretty much the same, maybe one will have better looking models and grass than the other. But it looks really nice from what I can tell. 60 fps is also a plus.


Post by DECA555 (316 posts) See mini bio

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@Dr_Cash: quality over quantity


Post by RHCPfan24 (6,385 posts) See mini bio
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It's funny how Dr_Cash seems to ignore every negative thing said about him and just keeps rambling on about the same topic over and over. And then it changes the next day. He never seems to have a constant opinion.


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@The_A_Drain said:
" Yeah because we all know demo's are drastically different from the final products... Shit, take it from somebody who knows that they are talking about, the reason you got (and payed for!) a demo and have to wait for the final game is because the art assets for a game that good looking take literally years to produce (the amount they want anyway), the base code (and hence, the graphics themselves) will look exactly the fucking same as they did with Prologue, the only reason they put prologue out is to make a few bucks out of people who couldn't wait.Disclaimer: I don't give a fuck, I hate racing games. I just calls it like I see's it, and the way I see's it, if you paid for Prologue, you paid for a fucking demo. Nice going. "

FYI, that "demo" was quite a bit more in depth in terms of content than most racing games released at that time, let alone a free demo taken from the PSN store.

70+ cars, 6 tracks (well, at least it's more than what most demos give you), a decent number of events (30), and a varied (if somewhat unstable) online mode shows that it's far more than just a demo. The only thing I agree with you on is that it's not quite worth $40, should've been $20-$30.

I wouldn't call it a "demo" so much as an average-sized game that acts as a precursor to an even larger one.

PS: a general "Fuck you" to both Dr_Cash and thiago for arguing like idiots, not just in this thread but in others.


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@PercyChuggs said:
" Oh please. I love Forza and only like Gran Turismo, but let's get real people. Gran Turismo 5 will look just as good. At this point, with games becoming almost photo-realistic, who cares if one game has 10 more polygons in their cars?Get over it people. "
As a racing sim the whole GT franchise is a joke, no damage, idiotic AI, bouncy walls etc etc
Forza 2 is still amazing to play, cant wait for Forza 3.


Post by CL60 (5,740 posts) See mini bio
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:D


Post by Jared (187 posts) See mini bio
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I know people say GT5 can't be beat but to be honest I really don't care when no one has played the game and there's still no release date in sight. By the time GT5 comes out two amazing Forza games will have been released and a 4th installment will most likely be on the way.


Post by pirate_republic (874 posts) See mini bio
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Eh? I say they're about the same.


Post by RandomHero666 (1,411 posts) See mini bio
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@CL60 said:
" :D "
=D


Post by PureRok (3,084 posts) See mini bio
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You know... for once, I actually agree with Cash. Forza 3 is a better game, and I haven't even seen anything more than that CG trailer.


Post by Ben_H (296 posts) See mini bio
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As a past Gran Turismo fan converted to a Forza fan I have one argument for GT fans:  Sure the cars look great, but you lose all sense of realism when you crash your supercar into a wall at 200 MPH and it bounces and still looks like it just came out of the car wash.  The cars in Forza get dirty and scratched up, you have to be careful to not hit the walls or damage your car.  I specifically remember losing a four hour endurance race on the fourth last lap because I piled my Ferrari into the wall due to not paying attention.  Contrary to that, I remember strategically crashing in GT so I could do hairpins faster.  The lack of car damage really is what makes me view Gran Turismo as the inferior game.  I do think it looks better but to me, it's all about having fun, not looking at shiny cars.


Post by killdave (742 posts) See mini bio
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I was impressed with Forza 3. Looking forward to that.
I'll prob get GT5 too though


Post by GrilledCheez01 (745 posts) See mini bio
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I don't understand this love for GT...I thought it was pretty much widely accepted that Forza took the crown from them...Forza 2 took it even further away, and now Forza 3 is going to THE MOON with it.  You can't call your game a sim racer if it doesn't have decent physics and I have yet to play a GT game with good physics.


Post by Discorsi (1,057 posts) See mini bio
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I never am interested in racing games (except Midnight Club in the arcade) but Forza 3 has me interested.


Post by jakob187 (9,621 posts) See mini bio
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Oh, cool...a game that looks good in STILL SHOTS!!!  I remember how Forza 2 looked great in STILL SHOTS...and then the game came out.  JAGGIES EVERYWHERE!  The damage modeling was alright, but repetitive and boring compared to something like the REAL king of damage modeling - Burnout Paradise.  There's also the lack of honest car physics, something which Codemasters has yet to fail at doing.  Frankly, while all you racing noobs drool over your Forzas and your Gran Turismos...I'll be over here, playing GTR...a REAL man's racing game.  = D


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@cinemandrew:
@cinemandrew said:
" I really loved Forza 2, and I'm glad that it came with my 360, but I just don't see myself getting that excited for another "racing simulator". I've been playing them since GT1, and aside from graphics, I haven't seen a whole lot of evolution since GT3 came out. I still want this game, and I'll want GT5 when it comes out, but not for $60. "
This. Let's all pause for a moment to remember how awesome GT3: A-Spec was. I would feel the same as you but I took a break from racing sims after GT3, haven't played GT4 or Forza 2 so I don't have any real loyalties to either, just very fond memories of GT. Still, since crash damage isn't really a big deal breaker for me, I can't help but think that, based on graphics alone, GT5 looks way better, almost photo-realistic. I can't comment on the actual gameplay differences between the two series, much less which one would be more realistic, however.


Post by jakob187 (9,621 posts) See mini bio
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@Nasar7: GT4 = GT3 with G-force trackers on-screen and more cars.  Forza 2 = Forza 1 with more cars, better graphics, more customization, better online options, and better damage models...but at the expense of frame rate drops, jaggies everywhere, online connectivity issues out the ass, and a general lack of excitement.

GRID is where it's at.  GTR is where it's at.  Those two franchises rape anything that Forza and GT throw out there.  Why?  Because GRID makes using stock cars with no upgrades FUN, plus it features the BEST online for a racer to ever exist (that's not an arguable point, either...go read all the reviews).  GTR, on the other hand, offers the best racing sim action possible, down to the fucking T.


Post by Nasar7 (631 posts) See mini bio
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@jakob187: Yeah, I've heard nothing but good things about GRID and GTR, I've been thinking about picking those up for a while now. 


Post by SmugDarkLoser (4,044 posts) See mini bio
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The funniest part about all of this is that they'll have gotten 2 games out before Polyphony gets out one.



Post by artofwar420 (1,903 posts) See mini bio
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They both look good in their own ways.


Post by AgentJ (6,537 posts) See mini bio
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@PercyChuggs said:
" Oh please. I love Forza and only like Gran Turismo, but let's get real people. Gran Turismo 5 will look just as good. At this point, with games becoming almost photo-realistic, who cares if one game has 10 more polygons in their cars?Get over it people. "
This. Dr. Cash, enough with these posts. We dont even know what the finished GT5 product will look like (though we may get a look tomorrow) so its a bit early to be saying anything about how they will compare. 


Post by SmugDarkLoser (4,044 posts) See mini bio
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You know, I was excited for a bit after the announcement.  Then I realized I don't care about racing games.


Post by CptChiken (56 posts) See mini bio
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i hate people who use more than one exclamation mark.
its so unneeded


Post by Kush (6,797 posts) See mini bio
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I'm very confused about Forza 3 graphically. When they first demoed the game I didn't think it looked better than GT5 at all, but when they showed that video editor (which supposedly was made with all in-game footage) the game looked amazing. I honestly don't know what to think, but it doesn't really matter because I'm become a huge fan of Forza after playing #2 and GT5 won't stop me from picking up Forza 3, even if it does look better.


Post by JakJ (406 posts) See mini bio
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I have to agree. GT5 became obsolete literally overnight. GT5 would have to be in development at least another 3 years to catch up feature wise, knowing that team.

To quote Kenny Powers - "Polyphony is fucking OUT, Turn 10 is fucking IN"


Post by Alex_V (388 posts) See mini bio
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Surely it's about how the games play, not how they look. An obvious point I know.


Post by Dr_Cash (352 posts) See mini bio

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@JakJ said:
" I have to agree. GT5 became obsolete literally overnight. GT5 would have to be in development at least another 3 years to catch up feature wise, knowing that team.To quote Kenny Powers - "Polyphony is fucking OUT, Turn 10 is fucking IN" "
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