Game developer states PS3 is NOT more powerful than 360.

Topic started by oldschool on May 11, 2009. Last post by thiago 6 months, 1 week ago.
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MarcusOfLycia said:
"To me, its irrelevant what he says. I bought a PS3 because I own an extremely nice PC. Any game that I would ever want to play on the 360, I can pick up for my computer, and it will look better. The PS3 doesn't share anywhere near as many titles with the PC, so it makes sense to own it for me.As far as which system is more capable, I would never rely on the opinion of one guy. HD-DVD can hold 15GB on a single layer, and 30GB on a dual layer. Blu-Ray can hold 25GB and 50GB, respectively. That's a lot of extra space, and if used properly, it should mean that PS3 titles have an edge of 360 titles, considering that both systems are admittedly very powerful."

The difference in pc's is you make your pc's for the game you want to play, consoles are the opposite where the game is made for that specific hardware. PC deveopers don't specific constraints they just build at what ever level they deem appropriate and hope the end-user will build a rig campable of playing the damn thing. Thats not meant to infer that the pc is worse/better in any way, just the capacity to optimise hardware efficiently is a lot more necessary on consoles.


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AgentofChaos said:
"randiolo said:
He is Jason Boothe, a developer who has worked on Guitar Hero and Rock Band. Kojima may have wanted to bring MGS4 to 360 but perhaps size constraints. I don't really know. I just think there may be some merit to this, perhaps its because I am a 360 owner. Pertaining to kojima said it wasn't possible, Sony would want to quell those fears of losing MGS4's exclusivity.
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What is the source for that? I keep hearing this nonsense that "Kojima wants this", "Kojima wants that".

Forget this MGS4 BS, just move on already.



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thiago said:
The 360 fanboys are butthurt because of the many games the PS3 is getting, but that`s the truth. If you knew anything about software projects you would know that the choice of the technology can greatly influence how fast it can be done. The "game development cycle" is that long, not because of any hardware, but because of game developers themselves that chose a non-scalable technology for developing games.And Killzone 2 looks unlike anything out there, because it is not just a matter of pixels on a screen (we aren't in the 16 bit era anymore), but because of the lighting and particle effects and all the shit going on. Other 360 games look simpler in comparison."
I'd say your showing your PS3 fanboyism, but your right in a sense, 360 has peaked (or is at least close) in terms of maximum graphical quality. The PS3 is more powerful, end of story. But its easier to develop games for the 360 and the userbase is massive. The PS3 is getting more exclusives this year, but so what! The 360 got plenty last year, and its a good thing, Sony needs to push the competition with Microsoft. Either company getting a sizable "lead" is a bad thing.


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This argument is as stale as the bread in my trash bin


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Kazona said:
"This argument is as stale as the bread in my trash bin"

What a waste of bread... you could toasted it or somthing


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AgentofChaos said:
I'd say your showing your PS3 fanboyism, but your right in a sense, 360 has peaked (or is at least close) in terms of maximum graphical quality. The PS3 is more powerful, end of story. But its easier to develop games for the 360 and the userbase is massive. The PS3 is getting more exclusives this year, but so what! The 360 got plenty last year, and its a good thing, Sony needs to push the competition with Microsoft. Either company getting a sizable "lead" is a bad thing. "

Massive what? 30 million against 22 from Sony? For a system that was released 1 year earlier? Is it an achievement at all? And how many people bought more than one unit? The 360 is so crappy that people buy "backup units" just in case the one they use breaks.

By the way some fanboys speak it seems that the 360 sold 200 million and the PS3 like 5. get over it. The numbers show a different story.


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Has anyone read the full Blog post??? I can't find it. Seems it has been taken down maybe?


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Goddamn it, WHO CARES? The 360 has some very beautiful games, and so does the PS3. There may be a slight difference in graphical power between the two, but does thinking "HA, this game I'm playing looks slightly better than those on the other console" really give you that much happiness? Is that how you justify buying one console over another? A fucking slight difference in graphical power? Give me a break.
If developers focused on art direction, music and gameplay rather than making the brown rocks, the brown walls and the brown brownness even more detailed, we would get much better games. But oh no, the graphic whores need their graphics, because if the games on their console don't look slightly better than those on the other one, life isn't worth living.


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Oh Thiago, i find your angry fanboyism dreamy...


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""most PS3 exclusives will likely continue to suck," he says."

please lock this fucking stupid flame thread already. 


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Who cares man. People who care about stuff like this have no life.


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Icemael said:
"Goddamn it, WHO CARES? "
Agreed, fuck it. They are both fun!


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AgentJ said:
"I could believe this, since the PS3s use Blu-Ray yet still dont seem to really out-do the 360. If true, this is embarassing for Sony, who had an extra year and charged twice as much for their console.
The PS3 is starting to sell in Japan thanks to the Final Fantasy XIII demo, but it obviously wont have that advantage in America. Frankly, I think Sony is in trouble, if not just because the only must-have game (in my eyes) is Metal Gear Solid 4. 
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I assume this means that you don't consider Valkyria Chronicles or Uncharted: Drake Fortune must-haves, and because of this you are part of the problem.


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Let's talk more and more trash about the ps3 so that sony lowers it's price. Then I can finally play MGS4. Cos it's the only reason I have to buy one.


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well kinda isnt


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heron_noleto said:
"Let's talk more and more trash about the ps3 so that sony lowers it's price. Then I can finally play MGS4. Cos it's the only reason I have to buy one."

Most people would pay more for a hardware that won't break in a few months than pay many times for the same broken product. The ones most concerned about price seem to be fanboys, because that's the only thing the 360 has better than the PS3 now (relatively better, because the 360 hardware is assembled with spit from slave workers working 18 hours a day somewhere in Asia).

In the end the PS3 is cheaper than the 360.



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thiago said:
"heron_noleto said:
"Let's talk more and more trash about the ps3 so that sony lowers it's price. Then I can finally play MGS4. Cos it's the only reason I have to buy one."
Most people would pay more for a hardware that won't break in a few months than pay many times for the same broken product. The ones most concerned about price seem to be fanboys, because that's the only thing the 360 has better than the PS3 now (relatively better, because the 360 hardware is assembled with spit from slave workers working 18 hours a day somewhere in Asia).In the end the PS3 is cheaper than the 360."
Its not fanboys (as far as buying the machine goes anyway) that are concerned about price its the non-gaming enthusists and kids that are concerned about price. If you love ps3 your going to buy one, but if your a member of the general public and see the 360 and ps3 side by side your going to notice the couple of hundred dollar difference in price. And if your a kid the most likely scenario is your parents arn't going to see the difference either and will chose the cheaper option, evertually all of your friends will have a 360 because of this factor and hence even if your parents agree to lay out the cash, your going to follow your friends anyway. 
By the way its pretty obvious most people won't pay more for hardware that won't break as the 360 sells more units every month.


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Kombat said:
"AgentJ said:
"I could believe this, since the PS3s use Blu-Ray yet still dont seem to really out-do the 360. If true, this is embarassing for Sony, who had an extra year and charged twice as much for their console.
The PS3 is starting to sell in Japan thanks to the Final Fantasy XIII demo, but it obviously wont have that advantage in America. Frankly, I think Sony is in trouble, if not just because the only must-have game (in my eyes) is Metal Gear Solid 4. 
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I assume this means that you don't consider Valkyria Chronicles or Uncharted: Drake Fortune must-haves, and because of this you are part of the problem."
I dont know much about Uncharted, as i've only played a short demo. However, I liked Valkyria Chronicles better when it was called Fire Emblem. 
thiago said:
"heron_noleto said:
"Let's talk more and more trash about the ps3 so that sony lowers it's price. Then I can finally play MGS4. Cos it's the only reason I have to buy one."
Most people would pay more for a hardware that won't break in a few months than pay many times for the same broken product. The ones most concerned about price seem to be fanboys, because that's the only thing the 360 has better than the PS3 now (relatively better, because the 360 hardware is assembled with spit from slave workers working 18 hours a day somewhere in Asia).In the end the PS3 is cheaper than the 360."
Because this conversation was all about how expensive the consoles are right? I believe the original conversation was about the power of the consoles, not how often they break or how much they cost, or where they were built (So Playstation 3s are built by blue collar angels in heaven? Give me a break). It seems that every time you comment, the thread you comment in gets off topic, so maybe you should stick to what the thread is about. 


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AgentJ said:
"heron_noleto said:
"Let's talk more and more trash about the ps3 so that sony lowers it's price. Then I can finally play MGS4. Cos it's the only reason I have to buy one."
Most people would pay more for a hardware that won't break in a few months than pay many times for the same broken product. The ones most concerned about price seem to be fanboys, because that's the only thing the 360 has better than the PS3 now (relatively better, because the 360 hardware is assembled with spit from slave workers working 18 hours a day somewhere in Asia).In the end the PS3 is cheaper than the 360."
Because this conversation was all about how expensive the consoles are right? I believe the original conversation was about the power of the consoles, not how often they break or how much they cost, or where they were built (So Playstation 3s are built by blue collar angels in heaven? Give me a break). It seems that every time you comment, the thread you comment in gets off topic, so maybe you should stick to what the thread is about. 
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READ THE FUCKING THREAD. Who started with this price talk was heron_noleto.


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well that is what we in the biz call a lie or spin


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thiago said:
"AgentJ said:
"heron_noleto said:
"Let's talk more and more trash about the ps3 so that sony lowers it's price. Then I can finally play MGS4. Cos it's the only reason I have to buy one."
Most people would pay more for a hardware that won't break in a few months than pay many times for the same broken product. The ones most concerned about price seem to be fanboys, because that's the only thing the 360 has better than the PS3 now (relatively better, because the 360 hardware is assembled with spit from slave workers working 18 hours a day somewhere in Asia).In the end the PS3 is cheaper than the 360."
Because this conversation was all about how expensive the consoles are right? I believe the original conversation was about the power of the consoles, not how often they break or how much they cost, or where they were built (So Playstation 3s are built by blue collar angels in heaven? Give me a break). It seems that every time you comment, the thread you comment in gets off topic, so maybe you should stick to what the thread is about. 
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READ THE FUCKING THREAD. Who started with this price talk was heron_noleto. "
Then he was off topic too. Doesnt mean you have to respond to him. You're just legitimizing him


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AgentJ said:
 However, I liked Valkyria Chronicles better when it was called Fire Emblem. 
Wait, did you actually play Valkyria Chronicles or not?  Because it's almost nothing like Fire Emblem.


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Let's all put ABBA on the stereo and have a party instead of discussing this. Who's with me?

We could play Singstar?

EDIT: Or Lips. Added for political correctness.


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Swish said:
"Kazona said:
"This argument is as stale as the bread in my trash bin"
What a waste of bread... you could toasted it or somthing"
I don't like moldy bread, not even when it's toasted.


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Diamond said:
"AgentJ said:
 However, I liked Valkyria Chronicles better when it was called Fire Emblem. 
Wait, did you actually play Valkyria Chronicles or not?  Because it's almost nothing like Fire Emblem."
Yeah, that sounds pretty ignorant, since Valkyria Chronicles has nothing to do with Fire Emblem, in gameplay, story, graphical style, time period/setting, and engines used.


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The real question is who is having more fun, PS3 users or Xbox360 users?


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neoepoch said:
"Diamond said:
"AgentJ said:
 However, I liked Valkyria Chronicles better when it was called Fire Emblem. 
Wait, did you actually play Valkyria Chronicles or not?  Because it's almost nothing like Fire Emblem."
Yeah, that sounds pretty ignorant, since Valkyria Chronicles has nothing to do with Fire Emblem, in gameplay, story, graphical style, time period/setting, and engines used."
Ah-ah-hahahaha. ;)


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AgentJ said:
"Kombat said:
I dont know much about Uncharted, as i've only played a short demo. However, I liked Valkyria Chronicles better when it was called Fire Emblem. 
thiago said:
You must have never played Valkyria Chronicles, because it is nothing like FIre Emblem


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get2sammyb said:
"neoepoch said:
"Diamond said:
"AgentJ said:
 However, I liked Valkyria Chronicles better when it was called Fire Emblem. 
Wait, did you actually play Valkyria Chronicles or not?  Because it's almost nothing like Fire Emblem."
Yeah, that sounds pretty ignorant, since Valkyria Chronicles has nothing to do with Fire Emblem, in gameplay, story, graphical style, time period/setting, and engines used."
Ah-ah-hahahaha. ;)"
Err what, are you saying he was being sarcastic?  I really hope not.  You might as well say shit like "I liked Quake better when it was called Super Mario Bros."


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Diamond said:
"get2sammyb said:
"neoepoch said:
"Diamond said:
"AgentJ said:
 However, I liked Valkyria Chronicles better when it was called Fire Emblem. 
Wait, did you actually play Valkyria Chronicles or not?  Because it's almost nothing like Fire Emblem."
Yeah, that sounds pretty ignorant, since Valkyria Chronicles has nothing to do with Fire Emblem, in gameplay, story, graphical style, time period/setting, and engines used."
Ah-ah-hahahaha. ;)"
Err what, are you saying he was being sarcastic?  I really hope not.  You might as well say shit like "I liked Quake better when it was called Super Mario Bros.""
No I was giggling because anytime I read ol' Agent J's posts he comes off very "holier-than-thou" but you guys just totally proved his ignorance.

Brilliant.