" I don't agree with you, but I will not bother to argue because you have made your opinion about how awesome you think Nintendo is painfully clear, and if I use the "doesn't have many good games" argument you or Al3xand3r will be more than willing to show me a list of obscure 3rd party titles that I have never heard of to prove your point. I got tired of debating after an unfortunate PM exchange around the subject of video game boobs. So please continue with whatever kind of ire you are trying to inspire in this topic. "
" Many of your oldschool's points are salient (if not original), but what he fails to appreciate is how the concept of 'winning and losing' a generation is obsolete. The Wii's blue ocean strategy created a new customer base rather than attempting to cannibalize a competitor's customer base. The market moved from zero-sum to non-zero-sum. In a non-zero sum game, there may be multiple winners and losers. "
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
" Nintendo=EPIC FAIL "
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
" It's threads like this that really make me hate Nintendo. "
" Um, I like all the systems? And am generally just a fan of games. You know, I play what sounds fun and/or interesting regardless of some arbitrary competition which will all be reset in a few years anyways.So, uh, what line do I get in?"
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
"@CronoXtream said:Now there's a compelling argument." Nintendo=EPIC FAIL "Anyway this blog isn't always agreeable but it has a point: Nintendo did something right that other companies are trying to emulate, and it won this generation ("winning" meaning sales and profit) handily. The interesting question is whether or not they'll retain their lead."
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
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" They dragged in a ton of gullible people. To me it's still a gimmick and I'm dissapointed in Sony and Microsoft for not seeing that. While we can't avoid the fact it sells systems (at least the Wii), that doesn't mean the implementation was successful. Almost the entire Wii collection might use motion control, but to no real extent. Waggle the controller? No thanks. If anything Nintendo had amazing timing for the weight-loss games. Everybody wants to lose weight and Nintendo is releasing all the right stuff. Even I sort of want my Wii back to try EA Active. "
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
"@HandsomeDead said:Why? Does their success bother you that much?" It's threads like this that really make me hate Nintendo. "@CrossTheAtlantic said:And so am I. It is the most sensible place to reside. We are in the same line, so we can chat there :-)" Um, I like all the systems? And am generally just a fan of games. You know, I play what sounds fun and/or interesting regardless of some arbitrary competition which will all be reset in a few years anyways.So, uh, what line do I get in?"However, not everyone can afford all 3 systems, so choices will be made. The ones who argue the most are usually those he feel they have to justify their decision (not always). I also enjoy my iMac for PC gaming and truly love the DS the most of all consoles. They all offer strengths. The blog isn't about that though. It is about the impact Nintendo have had on the market and its competitors as displayed at E3."
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
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" This is the kind of Shit Post that made me leave gamespot an other shitty forums.. where the hell are the moderators?! , this is clearly a provocation to irrational fanboysm.. "
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
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"@oldschool said:It has nothing to do with their success, it's your attitude. In fact, if it's anything to do with Nintendo's success, it's that their success breeds insufferable sycophants who can see the light where the rest of us can't and won't shut up about it. ""@HandsomeDead said:Why? Does their success bother you that much?" It's threads like this that really make me hate Nintendo. "@CrossTheAtlantic said:And so am I. It is the most sensible place to reside. We are in the same line, so we can chat there :-)" Um, I like all the systems? And am generally just a fan of games. You know, I play what sounds fun and/or interesting regardless of some arbitrary competition which will all be reset in a few years anyways.So, uh, what line do I get in?"However, not everyone can afford all 3 systems, so choices will be made. The ones who argue the most are usually those he feel they have to justify their decision (not always). I also enjoy my iMac for PC gaming and truly love the DS the most of all consoles. They all offer strengths. The blog isn't about that though. It is about the impact Nintendo have had on the market and its competitors as displayed at E3."
" @oldschool: Sorry, I really didn't clarify on this one.I'm not going to sit here and argue numbers. Obviously at this point Nintendo has enough money to start their own fucking country at this point. They are ultra rich, this I can't argue.Its not that the console doesn't have any good games, but direction it has taken, the incredible amount of shovelware it's put out... It just seems like this isn't a console for me at all. I think you'll find people of a similar opinion who love video games and love Nintendo.They may have won in terms of profits, but they haven't won me over, I'm sure the same is also true for more than just a few of us. "
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
"@DonPixel said:Really? So an analytical dissection of the current state of the console marketplace is fanboyism is it?" This is the kind of Shit Post that made me leave gamespot an other shitty forums.. where the hell are the moderators?! , this is clearly a provocation to irrational fanboysm.. "Here's a challenge for you. Find anything in the OP, or anywhere else I have posted on this thread, that criticises Sony or Microsoft other than accepting the reality that they have followed Nintendo. Get back to me when you find it."
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
" "The first real game I got for the console was Zelda. I was stunned at how natural it felt. Controlling was an extension of y arm."I'm sorry, I love my Wii, and it has some great games on it. But this is complete bullshit. It feels anything but natural, and it a literal replacement for simply pressing a button. If the game were built ground up for the Wii, it would have been different, but all they did for TP was replace a button press with a waggle, and it doesn't even have to be a remotely precise waggle either.I'm sorry, I just can't take anybody who considers Twilight Princess' combat controls 'natural' seriously.There is still plenty of profit to be made by all, and given the global recession, I don't tink it prudent to think about te next generation of consoles just yet, Sony and MS have said they have no plans for a new console, and Nintendo have absolutely no reason to build another yet, it would only lose them customers that they have gained with the Wii. It's the gamer in you wanting another upgrade, the casual market the Wii has swept up in the nets by the tonne on the other hand do not look kindly on having to upgrade. Yet, weirdly, they'll buy peripherals by the bucket load. "
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
"@HandsomeDead said:Nothing infuriates more than success does it Dead? Sorry to spoil your day with facts and opinions."@oldschool said:It has nothing to do with their success, it's your attitude. In fact, if it's anything to do with Nintendo's success, it's that their success breeds insufferable sycophants who can see the light where the rest of us can't and won't shut up about it. ""@HandsomeDead said:Why? Does their success bother you that much?" It's threads like this that really make me hate Nintendo. "@CrossTheAtlantic said:And so am I. It is the most sensible place to reside. We are in the same line, so we can chat there :-)" Um, I like all the systems? And am generally just a fan of games. You know, I play what sounds fun and/or interesting regardless of some arbitrary competition which will all be reset in a few years anyways.So, uh, what line do I get in?"However, not everyone can afford all 3 systems, so choices will be made. The ones who argue the most are usually those he feel they have to justify their decision (not always). I also enjoy my iMac for PC gaming and truly love the DS the most of all consoles. They all offer strengths. The blog isn't about that though. It is about the impact Nintendo have had on the market and its competitors as displayed at E3."Just curious though. I didn't make value judgements on games ot the consoles themselves, so exactly which parts bother you so much?@Lowbrow said:It is true for a lot of people. It would be foolish to deny that. I am not going to argue on that point. Like anything, there will always be those that don't see the enjoyment others get. It doesn't bother me that you don't like it." @oldschool: Sorry, I really didn't clarify on this one.I'm not going to sit here and argue numbers. Obviously at this point Nintendo has enough money to start their own fucking country at this point. They are ultra rich, this I can't argue.Its not that the console doesn't have any good games, but direction it has taken, the incredible amount of shovelware it's put out... It just seems like this isn't a console for me at all. I think you'll find people of a similar opinion who love video games and love Nintendo.They may have won in terms of profits, but they haven't won me over, I'm sure the same is also true for more than just a few of us. "Again, it is about sales and direction of the followers. No value judgements. The value judgements are made by those who my points do not suit."
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
" Oh, before I get back to work:"Nintendo has won this generation well beyond console sales."Then, later:"Winner simply means sales."I haven't seen a retreat like that since Napoleon invaded Russia. "
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Success is great. Holier than thou opinions from holier than thou posters are not though. No one asked you to make a thread like this where you basically brag about Nintendo's success on their behalf and no one is really interested in seeing it either. "
"Give me a break.. you said something that has being said like a zillion times allready.. plus you made your post so damm anoying with all those ridicoulous over statments speaking of truth you are clearly not giving a chance for discussion, that`s provocation. Discussion starts with an open mind and a disposition to hear other "truths" and negotiate them...There`s no much point to discuss with someone who comes with "enlighted truth" ... that would be like trying to argue with a Nazi or a Religious Fanatic.. what`s the point ? would they lissen...? nooooo "
Posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
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