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" @oldschool: You can't have two contradictory statements that cover all bases and ward of all reciprocation. That's not how an argument works. Either sales dictate the winner, or they don't They can't dictate the winner, and have your argument based on more than sales.At least with sales you can argue hard facts and figures, and noone would disagree (in their right minds) But the rest is just opinion and conjecture, yet you peddle them as if they were fact anyway. "

" @oldschool:

Nintendo have the highest sales. Yes. Well done.

But that only makes them the 'winner of this generation' in your opinion. So w/eIt doesn't matter what I think of MS or Sony's motion controls, or Nintendos for that matter, I neither like nor dislike, I simply don't give a shit, I just play the games I want to play and that's that.I'll just echo what some other posters have said, you sound a lot like a religious zealot, and it's pissing me off. Nintendo are great, I love them, they've done so much for this industry and have had (in my opinion) the most business sense throughout (very few projects have not profited almost immidietly, and thats to be admired) But holy shit, you're making them sound like a god, a shephard of the lost, a shining light in the darkness etc. "

" Nintendo is like an friend I've known for my whole life, had our ups and downs, but remained close. And then one day I came over and Nintendo's trying to hookup with my Mom!Friendship Over!!! "

" I think the Wii has a lot more to do before it becomes the strong console it can be. Here are some problems with the Wii1)They never seem to understand where they go right and polish it out, like the Playstation 3 (Assasins Creed) and the Xbox 360 (Gears of War). And when they do, they seem to do it too late.2)As weve seen, Project Natal and space-ice cream have come out for Playstation 3 and Xbox360, yet the Wii has nowhere near the graphical level of these two consoles.3)Online for Wii is much much worse than the online for the Playstation 3 and Xbox360.Whilst it is definite that the Wii is much better if you only want to spend £300 (or like $500) on a console-you can buy the Wii with a nice few games like No More Heroes, Super Mario Galaxy, and Super Smash Brothers Brawl-the playstation 3 and the Xbox360 are definitely the smarter choice with a larger sum of money (say £1000). We can always check up for proof-we can check up on Gamespot the reviews for every game that got 9s or 8s and see which one wins overall. Then well do the same with IGN, and another site that everyone knows. GIVE ME A SUGGESTION AND MAIL ME. Ill get the results later. "

" Motion control is the future. Never. "

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• Yes, Nintendo did realize the potential of motions controls.
• Yes, Nintendo did win over the casual market by freeing gaming of the stigma of laziness, inactivity and turning people into fat, pimply blobs.
• Yes, Nintendo does print money with their products.
• Yes, the competition follows in Nintendos path
  

1. No, the motion controls do nothing for me, because the Wii is lacking adequate technology, capable of firing up modern engines for fully realized environments to play in.
2. No, the Wii demographic doesn't help the industry to refine their art, because they aren't educated game consumers. Product quality doesn't count for much, when it comes to the Wii audience. This holiday sales will show the full extend of the Wii audiences lack of appreciation of quality games.
3. No, Nintendo printing money doesn't help me at all. Because they prove, that selling glass perls to Indians is the most lucrative way of doing business. Nintendos success sets the worst example.
4. No, Nintendos heritage aren't motion controls. It's selling weak hardware for a huge profit. The next generation of hardware will show, how much damage Nintendo has dealt to our favorite pastime.

In conclusion. Nintendo didn't win this generation. Nintendo only successfully scorched the earth for generations to come. Nintendo is the bain of my life! "