Thoughts on games, their industry and those who play them

Topic started by End_Boss on July 3, 2009. Last post by Metasin 4 months ago.
Post by End_Boss (1,914 posts) See mini bio

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I’ve found myself in a weird place with games lately. Although I still enjoy playing them, I'm becoming increasingly jaded with both games and, more to the point, the culture surrounding them. For example, I can’t count the number of times I’ve questioned whether or not my XBOX Live subscription is worth the roughly $15 bucks I pay for it, since I play online for the social aspect of it, as opposed to simply wanting to play against non-AI opponents. I question whether or not it’s worth it because there seems to be a moratorium on headset chatter over XBOX Live, with those rare folks who do have a headset plugged in either existing as slur-spewing vomit sacks (which conjures the image of a Boomer wearing a microphone) or silent, lonely hisses and background noise (dishes clanging, players readjusting in their seats).

It may be just me, but I remember XBOX Live’s earlier years as being different. I fondly remember playing endless hours of Gears of War, knowing that each match would be a unique challenge, full of different characters (if not all of them amenable). I made a lot of friends over the service during those days, but now the few that I add during a session almost never stay on my friends list for more than a week. I guess the simplest explanation is that all of the rational human beings have retreated to their impregnable “friends-list-only” fortresses, abandoning the wilderness that is XBOX Live to the slobbering 12-year-old pseudo-gangster racial-slur-hurling mutants. So I often find myself asking the question: is it all worth it in the end, or should I just abandon this apparent wasteland to its own devices? As a certain video game show host has said, it seems that this kind of behavior has become expected of XBOX Live-goers, so that anyone behaving as they would in the real world is considered to be any one of the many homophobic insults thrown at them by those that “get” XBOX Live. Maybe that’s it; maybe I just don’t “get” XBOX Live. Maybe there’s some underlying joke that justifies all of the nastiness that goes on that I just haven’t picked up on. Either way, I’m left wondering whether or not I’d be better off unplugging the Ethernet cable from my XBOX.

Still, for all their faults, the online community is not entirely to blame for my current dissatisfaction with gaming. It seems that game companies are playing increasingly fast and loose with the established norms of game development and releasing just about anything that passes for a video game, regardless of the fact that it’s really just an old No Doubt CD with a space marine slapped onto it. I also can’t help but think that all of those beleaguered people ranting and raving about patches when they first entered the console gaming scene a few years ago must be feeling awfully vindicated today, what with the myriad of games still being patched months after release, not with new content, but with miniscule fixes attempting to mask what is, for all intents and purposes, an unfinished game. The result is infuriatingly macabre and completely impossible to swallow, like a drunken surgeon putting a band-aid over the shotgun wound of a patient who originally came in with a case of the sniffles.

Anyway, my attention-span-to-word-count ratio says that I ought to wrap things up soon, so I guess I’ll finish with a question: is the gaming industry beginning to treat us like the slack-jawed nimrods on XBOX Live, and if those Neanderthals truly are representative of our subculture as a whole, do we deserve it?



Post by Claude (3,207 posts) See mini bio
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I don't play online Xbox Live, but it's not for the reasons you mentioned. Well, if confronted with this on Xbox Live, here's how I would handle it.

"Listen, I'm going to fuck your mother, your grandmother and then fuck you up the ass until you're fucking punch drunk blue in the face. So, shut the fuck up and put on your mother."

Maybe then, I would talk to his mother and remind her it's a mature game... and wait for the cops.

I have silver, so this should not happen.


Post by ZeroCast (579 posts) See mini bio
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Online Mutliplayer is an essential thing for me when buying a game, i think of it as a way of competition, even though the experince might not be so wonderful, (because of the people you mentioned) i do believe it's worthwhile to a certain degree.


Post by PenguinDust (3,314 posts) See mini bio

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A similar problem with XBL was discussed recently here. The good, the bossy, the obnoxious  I can only reiterate my reply and suggest you join any of the video gamer social networks that cater to mature gamers.  There you can find gamers who have similar tastes and a low tolerance for hate-speech in online matches.   As for your problem with patches...well, the same thing still exists on the PC, so I can't tell you to go there. 

Maybe you should try an MMO.  They usually have strong social elements and once you find a good group of guys & gals to hang with, they can be a lot of fun.  Of course, they are huge time sinks and are constantly being patched since new material is always being added to keep them fresh.  You may even find players in your guild to play XBL stuff, too.  I know when I was playing WoW, several of my guildmates disappeared from time to time to play Gears of War 2 or Left for Dead on the 360.


Post by GamerGeek360 (753 posts) See mini bio
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I know what you mean about Xbox Live. I remember when I first played Call of Duty 4 online when it came out everyone talked and it was a ton of fun. Now, nobody really has their headset on so I don't even bother putting mine on. However, I think the thing is people get bored playing the same game for a while. I expect Modern Warfare 2 to feel a lot more like you remember Gears of War being. At least when it comes out. Personally, I'm not bored of Call of Duty 4 and would love to talk to some people who also still enjoy playing it but no one on the game ever talks unless it's an 8-year-old who is psyched out of his mind because he has a shotgun AND RPG's.


Post by exanubisleader (11 posts) See mini bio
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@End_Boss:
I think there are ways around such extreme measures such as setting so you can only hear your friends and so forth. I think the main thing gamers need to do is report the ones who are breaking the rules. Oh sure it sounds childish to " Tattle" on a kid who is talking about rounding up a bunch of jews and blacks and torch them but if we allow idiots like that to exist on our service we will never see any progress. There should just be a day where all Giant bomb, Ign or whatever community you are a part of should just play Xbox live and report people breaking these infractions. Think of it as helping out mother nature but instead of cleaning seagulls with oil covering them we are reporting misdeads. Hope I don't sound too obnoxious.


Post by Sweep (791 posts) See mini bio
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for every 20 assholes there will always be one person worth your time. The problem is it easy to forget that the people on Xbox live actually exist. If you're a dick on the internet chances are you aren't captain awesome in real life either. People are jerks. Xbox live just exposes you to more of them.

Personally, the ability to communicate with the few people I know online far outweighs the hassle of having to filter through the rest of the population.


Post by airwolf (3 posts) See mini bio
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The anonymity of XBOX 360 and internet in general will always produce idiots but for the most part Xbox LIVE has bettered console and PC gaming than it has hurt it. The result of number of idiots is now we can mute in-game. We will see options like Natal do something similar. Video Block? LOL =)


Post by Metasin (166 posts) See mini bio

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You kind of answer your own question, a lot of people have gone the friends list only route. Also the silence on the other end of the mic is possibly another person who wants to talk but remains quiet so he isn't insulted by an 8yo. If you want to talk to people, talk to people, they won't all be nice but thats the world. 

As far as video games pandering to the lowest common denominator, all forms of media put out a bunch of filler that the uninformed masses will consume. You on the other hand are on Giantbomb and therefore know how to find out details on a game without purchasing it, so there is really only yourself to blame if you are playing crap.