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#1 Edited by RonGalaxy (3170 posts) -

A medium-medium rare spoiler for GTAV follows!

For future reference, this thread isn't about jeff saying something about women in gaming. Im just pointing out that reddit took something he said, and twisted it to mean something else (they made it seem like he was saying people who are complaining about the game being sexist havent played it, when he actually was saying no one is talking about the torture scene in GTAV because people bitch about spoilers)

So someone asked this^^^^^

Reddit did this^^^^^

Jeff Responds^^^^^

Jeff Responds... Again^^^^^

Yup

Also, sometimes I hate the forum editor when it comes to images

#2 Edited by EXTomar (4737 posts) -

Yet more flame baiting links without their thoughts on a controversial topic. Yup.

Who is saying there is a "female problem in GTA"? People keep saying there are people out there who say there is a problem but who are saying "There is a problem"? I ask that because I still don't know what "the problem" is beyond vague grumblings. There was a thread floating around mentioning that it was time for a GTA with a woman as the main character but that isn't the same thing. Do they mean the scene where a strong character breaks down the moment the player shows up? That is just weak writing and the inherent incoherent issue with GTA games where I feel the writers didn't set it up properly and that isn't it either.

Instead, it seems to me a handful of anonymous people who know what the controversial topics are want to stir up a controversy just to see what happens instead of actually find out what Jeff's thoughts are. And here we are with people upvoting and posting the controversy. All according to their plan I suppose....

#3 Edited by joshwent (2207 posts) -

Jeff Gerstmann, the most rational man in gaming. So many times I wish he'd be a bit more vocal and put himself out there more about these issues, because he has a calm logic, passion for games as a developing medium, and critical distance that almost none of the other "journalists" working today have. But then, I guess he wouldn't be Jeff anymore.

#4 Posted by sub_o (899 posts) -

@joshwent said:

Jeff Gerstmann, the most rational man in gaming. So many times I wish he'd be a bit more vocal and put himself out there more about these issues, because he has a calm logic, passion for games as a developing medium, and critical distance that almost none of the other "journalists" working today have. But then, I guess he wouldn't be Jeff anymore.

Wait until you argue with him about the existence of Shmooo.

#5 Edited by RonGalaxy (3170 posts) -

I think you guys are missing the point... Reddit twisted jeffs tumblr answer to mean something that it didnt actually mean. That's the point of this thread...

#6 Edited by Fattony12000 (7417 posts) -

#7 Edited by MideonNViscera (2257 posts) -

I'm still unclear as to how the gender of fictional characters in fictional stories matters.

#8 Edited by ThunderSlash (1730 posts) -

That song always reminds me of Shrek. Well... it's either Shrek or Rat Race.

THANKS OP FOR THIS QUALITY THREAD.

#9 Posted by dr_mantas (1886 posts) -

I don't like that MRA is an insult and a dirty word.

Using it in a derogatory fashion is the same as using "feminist" in a derogatory fashion.

#10 Posted by RonGalaxy (3170 posts) -

oh boy, are people going to misinterpret this thread and start arguing about women in gaming? Uh-ohhhh!!

#11 Posted by LiquidPenguins (181 posts) -

The problem is the game justifies actions male characters do with some level of effort while female characters are lazily written as "just women". It's lazy, misogynistic, and a big blemish on an otherwise fun game.

#12 Edited by RazielCuts (2954 posts) -

@naru_joe93 said:

oh boy, are people going to misinterpret this thread and start arguing about women in gaming? Uh-ohhhh!!

Well it doesn't help when you just post screen grabs of comments and no opinion of your own to accompany them. Why don't you help the 'misinterpretation' and tell us what your intentions were for making this thread? May clear up some of the 'confusion' that this isn't just another one of those flamebait 'sexism in games' threads.

#13 Posted by RonGalaxy (3170 posts) -

Yup, people are totally misinterpreting this thread.... UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH READ THE FUCKIN PICTURES I POSTED

#14 Posted by leebmx (2244 posts) -

It must be a nightmare sometimes to have any sort of profile in this or any other industry. You have to be so clear about what you mean or people will just be desperate to use your credibility to back up their own shitty views.

#15 Edited by RonGalaxy (3170 posts) -

@naru_joe93 said:

oh boy, are people going to misinterpret this thread and start arguing about women in gaming? Uh-ohhhh!!

Well it doesn't help when you just post screen grabs of comments and no opinion of your own to accompany them. Why don't you help the 'misinterpretation' and tell us what your intentions were for making this thread? May clear up some of the 'confusion' that this isn't just another one of those flamebait 'sexism in games' threads.

If people read past the first screen grab and saw Jeff's reaction's, shouldn't it be obvious? Why even post if they arent going to look at the pictures?

Anyway, I spelled it out so people wouldn't jump at the opportunity to argue about something

#16 Posted by LiquidPenguins (181 posts) -

So you made a thread to tell us reddit is full of morons?

We already know. Go back there.

#17 Edited by Scampbell (498 posts) -

I really don't understand why anyone would misunderstand this, it seems pretty clear as long as you actually read it. Sadly misunderstanding comments is really prevelent in our low attention span society.

Sometimes on purpose.

#18 Edited by mrfluke (5158 posts) -
#19 Posted by EXTomar (4737 posts) -

I think you guys are missing the point... Reddit twisted jeffs tumblr answer to mean something that it didnt actually mean. That's the point of this thread...

I think you missed the point that "Reddit" just wants to see a controversy and you played into it by posting this.

#20 Edited by RonGalaxy (3170 posts) -

So you made a thread to tell us reddit is full of morons?

We already know. Go back there.

I mean, that isn't the main point of the thread... I thought users of this site would find it funny/interesting that Jeff's words were manipulated/misinterpreted to such a large extent...

And apparently 'you' guys dont know, since you devolved into the same bullshit argument reddit was having, based on a... misinterpretation

And go back where? I don't use reddit. I hate reddit. If you thought I was making a thread to point out that reddit is full of morons, why would you assume that I also use the site? That's kind of dumb of you... Unless I'm..... MISINTERPRETING.... the meaning of that sentence?

#21 Edited by RazielCuts (2954 posts) -

@naru_joe93 said:

@razielcuts said:

@naru_joe93 said:

oh boy, are people going to misinterpret this thread and start arguing about women in gaming? Uh-ohhhh!!

Well it doesn't help when you just post screen grabs of comments and no opinion of your own to accompany them. Why don't you help the 'misinterpretation' and tell us what your intentions were for making this thread? May clear up some of the 'confusion' that this isn't just another one of those flamebait 'sexism in games' threads.

If people read past the first screen grab and saw Jeff's reaction's, shouldn't it be obvious? Why even post if they arent going to look at the pictures?

Anyway, I spelled it out so people wouldn't jump at the opportunity to argue about something

I'm saying just posting screen grabs of

other peoples opinions

and just saying 'Thoughts?' is pretty lazy thread making. So don't be surprised if people jump to conclusions of the intent of this thread. Theres no real new discussion here that hasn't already happened enough on these forums and it'll just end in another perpetual motion machine of circle jerkery.

The question of 'Should games be considered different to other mediums?' Answer - 'Yes.' Done.

And I whole heartedly have to agree with this -

@leebmx said:

It must be a nightmare sometimes to have any sort of profile in this or any other industry. You have to be so clear about what you mean or people will just be desperate to use your credibility to back up their own shitty views.

Must be a minefield out there having to second guess everything you say before you say it that if it were me I'd think twice about saying anything at all. Which would be a real shame if Jeff did do that because I like to hear his 'uncensored' and non corporate opinion on things. I like the conversational attitude GB has, this isn't a political site where everything has to be 'safe' and PC, this is a bunch of dudes playing video games, shooting the shit.

#22 Posted by Theassman (27 posts) -

Jesus, the only thing I'll say on this is, if you're really this bothered by something maybe being sexist in a fucking videogame you desperatly need some more tragedy in your lives.

#23 Posted by RonGalaxy (3170 posts) -

@extomar said:

@naru_joe93 said:

I think you guys are missing the point... Reddit twisted jeffs tumblr answer to mean something that it didnt actually mean. That's the point of this thread...

I think you missed the point that "Reddit" just wants to see a controversy and you played into it by posting this.

Yes, the whole universe is ruined because I pointed out reddit being fucking stupid in the context of the creator of this site. I should commit seppuku for being so goddamn shameful!

#24 Posted by LiquidPenguins (181 posts) -

Obviously no one cares

#25 Edited by RonGalaxy (3170 posts) -

Obviously no one cares

you're the coolest kid in the 5th grade!

#26 Posted by Veektarius (4837 posts) -

I can understand how his original comment could be taken the wrong way if you don't know Jeff pretty well, and know that he usually doesn't do a lot of sarcasm in what he writes. He usually lays it out straight.

#27 Posted by Chaser324 (6546 posts) -

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