#1 Edited by Enigma777 (6057 posts) -

Even if some of the SP gameplay was uninspired (I'm look at you "Destroy defense platform" objective!) I thought it was still pretty cool. There were some awesome set pieces and some absolutely gorgeous environments.

And then I played the final level. What the fuck Guerrilla?! How are you gonna try to pass off that shit-turd sandwich as an ending and then roll the credits?! And then stop the credits and give me one of the most boring missions ever that also has a shit-turd sandwich ending and then walk off like it's all cool.

By comparison, Rico is a goddamn bastion of humanity. Ugh. Just ugh.

Good thing the MP is pretty good, even if the maps feel super tiny.

3/5 (Yes, I took a whole point off cause of that shitty ending. Deal with it.)

#2 Posted by TruthTellah (8517 posts) -

@enigma777: It sounds like you basically feel like most reviews. I don't see why you'd say most reviews were full of BS when you seem to be reinforcing many of their criticisms of the single player and somewhat lackluster multiplayer.

#3 Posted by Spoonman671 (4554 posts) -

I think the last level (I mean the last last level) is one of the better parts of the game. I wish we got to play as Echo more often throughout the game. The story is dumb and no Killzone game has ever actually capitalized on the fiction of the universe (or the gameplay mechanics, really), but there's no way you could say it ended more poorly than did Killzone 3.


What part of reviews are you disagreeing with exactly? Your opinion seems to pretty much line up with reviews I've seen.

#4 Edited by SgtSphynx (1262 posts) -

By comparison, Rico is a goddamn bastion of humanity. Ugh. Just ugh.

Now I want to see this ending.

#5 Posted by Krullban (1023 posts) -

Can somebody tell me what happens that is so shitty? I can't find it and have no interest in playing it. But I keep hearing it's shit.

#6 Posted by Enigma777 (6057 posts) -

Originally my title was "I thought all the reviews were BS... and then I played the final mission."

I hope that makes more sense.

#7 Posted by spraynardtatum (2594 posts) -

I really liked the "after credits" mission. That's how I kind of wish more of the game felt. The level design fell apart on the last two chapters before it though. Mostly with the gravity shifting stuff and enemy placement. Also the last two rooms were too claustrophobic and frustrating. Wasn't having much fun before the credits rolled.

Good game though.

#8 Posted by TruthTellah (8517 posts) -

Originally my title was "I thought all the reviews were BS... and then I played the final mission."

I hope that makes more sense.

Now that thread title would make sense. Right now, it just sounds like this post is going to be someone complaining about reviews they disagree with.

#9 Edited by Spoonman671 (4554 posts) -

@krullban said:

Can somebody tell me what happens that is so shitty? I can't find it and have no interest in playing it. But I keep hearing it's shit.

You kill the bad guy (the main one from Killzone 3, except all old and shit), and then your handler, who you've known the entire time was a backstabbing, crazy, fucker magically appears behind you and kills you. The last mission interrupts the credits and you play as your Helghast (sort of) buddy as she infiltrates a park and sets up a sniper position from which she assassinates the handler that betrayed you. Roll remaining credits. I think it was more dumb than it was horrible and embarrassing.

#10 Posted by MonetaryDread (1991 posts) -

Wow. Whats with the distorted view on review scores OP? The average score on Metacritic puts Killzone at a 74, and in a scale of 1-100 almost every site lists a 7 as a game that is great, but has a few flaws. I would say that Killzone SF fits that description perfectly and your post fits right in with that score as well.

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#11 Posted by CptBedlam (4449 posts) -

Is it worse than Rage's ending?

#12 Posted by SpaceRunaway (837 posts) -

So...you agree with the reviews?

#13 Edited by TurboMan (7388 posts) -

I played a few hours of it, thought reviews were too kind to it.

#14 Edited by mosespippy (4031 posts) -

Guerrilla aren't exactly known for their great endings.

  • In Liberation, Rico was set up as a possible traitor in the original ending but it left on a cliff hanger. They added another chapter 8 months after release to actually finish the story and reveal the true traitor.
  • In KZ2, Rico done fucked up.
  • In KZ3, Oops, you super nuked a planet.
  • And KZ:SF, Whatever the hell you're talking about.

I didn't finish the original and don't intend on playing Mercenaries.

#15 Posted by neobendez (14 posts) -

Do I need to play it to agree or disagree to the reviews? Oh well,I'm not much into reviews anyways..

#16 Posted by crithon (3075 posts) -

well.... is Killzone 3 multiplayer is still Free to play on PS3? no plans on bringing that over to PS4?

#17 Posted by Hailinel (23846 posts) -

@krullban said:

Can somebody tell me what happens that is so shitty? I can't find it and have no interest in playing it. But I keep hearing it's shit.

You kill the bad guy (the main one from Killzone 3, except all old and shit), and then your handler, who you've known the entire time was a backstabbing, crazy, fucker magically appears behind you and kills you. The last mission interrupts the credits and you play as your Helghast (sort of) buddy as she infiltrates a park and sets up a sniper position from which she assassinates the handler that betrayed you. Roll remaining credits. I think it was more dumb than it was horrible and embarrassing.

Dumb, yes, but definitely not as dumb as Killzone 3's ending. I doubt many things in video game narratives are truly as dumb as Killzone 3's ending.

#18 Edited by ViciousBearMauling (897 posts) -

@krullban said:

Can somebody tell me what happens that is so shitty? I can't find it and have no interest in playing it. But I keep hearing it's shit.

You kill the bad guy (the main one from Killzone 3, except all old and shit), and then your handler, who you've known the entire time was a backstabbing, crazy, fucker magically appears behind you and kills you. The last mission interrupts the credits and you play as your Helghast (sort of) buddy as she infiltrates a park and sets up a sniper position from which she assassinates the handler that betrayed you. Roll remaining credits. I think it was more dumb than it was horrible and embarrassing.

That just seems really lame.

#19 Posted by geirr (2476 posts) -

Want emancipation?

@spoonman671 said:

@krullban said:

Can somebody tell me what happens that is so shitty? I can't find it and have no interest in playing it. But I keep hearing it's shit.

You kill the bad guy (the main one from Killzone 3, except all old and shit), and then your handler, who you've known the entire time was a backstabbing, crazy, fucker magically appears behind you and kills you. The last mission interrupts the credits and you play as your Helghast (sort of) buddy as she infiltrates a park and sets up a sniper position from which she assassinates the handler that betrayed you. Roll remaining credits. I think it was more dumb than it was horrible and embarrassing.

That just seems really lame.

I've never played the game and have no intentions to but the ending doesn't sound too bad from this description. Though it's all in the delivery; also if it sets up the possibly more interesting semi-Helghast character as a protagonist for the next DLC or game then that might be OK.

However the part where you're some sort of parasitic being sticking out of the protagonist's belt area while viewing and controlling the action from its perspective sounds riveting! Or so goes my theory as to why you're so short in the game.

#20 Edited by Enigma777 (6057 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@spoonman671 said:

@krullban said:

Can somebody tell me what happens that is so shitty? I can't find it and have no interest in playing it. But I keep hearing it's shit.

You kill the bad guy (the main one from Killzone 3, except all old and shit), and then your handler, who you've known the entire time was a backstabbing, crazy, fucker magically appears behind you and kills you. The last mission interrupts the credits and you play as your Helghast (sort of) buddy as she infiltrates a park and sets up a sniper position from which she assassinates the handler that betrayed you. Roll remaining credits. I think it was more dumb than it was horrible and embarrassing.

Dumb, yes, but definitely not as dumb as Killzone 3's ending. I doubt many things in video game narratives are truly as dumb as Killzone 3's ending.

As completely dumb as the KZ3 ending was, at least it had some measure of closure. You save Earth from the Helghast invasion even if you accidentally blew up Helghan to do it.

Bit in Shadow Fall, you literally walk into a room, the bad guy gives you 10 seconds of exposition then he gets shot by your clearly insane Mentor and then you get 2 in chest yourself. That's it! I honestly can't think of a more anticlimactic ending in any video game...

#21 Edited by SlashDance (1803 posts) -

So shit endings have officially become a hallmark of the Killzone franchise?

#22 Posted by PSNgamesun (394 posts) -

I liked the game the story progressed nicely but it needed more punch. The game played great to and I never really got bored but like I said the writing/story needed to have more of powerful moments and even the key parts never really felt that grand. So yeah my score of the game would be a 4/5 or an 8 exactly.

#23 Posted by RonGalaxy (2866 posts) -

@krullban said:

Can somebody tell me what happens that is so shitty? I can't find it and have no interest in playing it. But I keep hearing it's shit.

You kill the bad guy (the main one from Killzone 3, except all old and shit), and then your handler, who you've known the entire time was a backstabbing, crazy, fucker magically appears behind you and kills you. The last mission interrupts the credits and you play as your Helghast (sort of) buddy as she infiltrates a park and sets up a sniper position from which she assassinates the handler that betrayed you. Roll remaining credits. I think it was more dumb than it was horrible and embarrassing.

I dont know, that ending sounds like it could be alright (for a CODesque fps game), under the circumstance that the story leading up to it is good. If everything leading up to that is dogshit, then that makes sense.

#24 Edited by Hunkulese (2640 posts) -

@hailinel: Shadow Fall's ending is way worse than KZ3. Remember the part where you nuked Stahl's ship? Well the nuke just gave him cancer so he could be in Shadow Fall's ending for no reason.

#25 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4329 posts) -

So shit endings have officially become a hallmark of the Killzone franchise?

At least they're consistent

#26 Posted by wjb (1636 posts) -

@enigma777 said:

Originally my title was "I thought all the reviews were BS... and then I played the final mission."

I hope that makes more sense.

Now that thread title would make sense. Right now, it just sounds like this post is going to be someone complaining about reviews they disagree with.

I totally knew what he was trying to say before I read his post. SHOWS WHAT YOU KNOW, GUY!

(I'm sorry)

#27 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (909 posts) -

In my humble opinion this is a good game and I also think it's as good if not better than Halo 4.

#28 Edited by Pessh (2454 posts) -

So...Red Dead Redemption?

#29 Posted by themangalist (1717 posts) -

@spoonman671 said:

@krullban said:

Can somebody tell me what happens that is so shitty? I can't find it and have no interest in playing it. But I keep hearing it's shit.

You kill the bad guy (the main one from Killzone 3, except all old and shit), and then your handler, who you've known the entire time was a backstabbing, crazy, fucker magically appears behind you and kills you. The last mission interrupts the credits and you play as your Helghast (sort of) buddy as she infiltrates a park and sets up a sniper position from which she assassinates the handler that betrayed you. Roll remaining credits. I think it was more dumb than it was horrible and embarrassing.

That just seems really lame.

Not really... it sounds almost like Modern Warfare 2 and 3 combined. Now those were the worst.

#30 Posted by Tru3_Blu3 (3184 posts) -

I think the last level (I mean the

last

last level) is one of the better parts of the game.

I wish we got to play as Echo more often throughout the game.

The story is dumb and no Killzone game has ever actually capitalized on the fiction of the universe (or the gameplay mechanics, really).

Killzone 1? I thought the game did a good job introducing and conveying the universe of the game.

#31 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -

Almost done with this one. The game totally lost me, after having a good time mostly at first. The latter levels are total rubbish. In general, I have a hard time understanding how Guerilla tries to entertain me, because most of what they do, doesn't make a lick of sense. The shooting parts (which I initially enjoyed) get worse and worse, because of stupid level design and badly put together scenarios - whilst everything other than shooting somehow is the focal point now (I'm not even sure what the other things are supposed to be, to be honest), and is as boring as watching paint dry.

I'm on Helghan now, and all I do is asking myself *Why? Why? Why?*. I could be playing BF4 or NfS Rivals or try out a Free 2 Play game instead. Argh. Killzone 2 is one of the few games I've started but not finished, and if Shadow Fall wasn't a shiny launch game, and I'd got it out of a garbage bin (erm... bargain bin), I'd now quit playing it altogether. It's just too boring, tedious and stupid.

Kinda expected a Crysis-like experience, which it kinda was for a spell, but then what I really got is... I'm not quite sure what it's even meant to be. I guess it's not meant to be boring and tedious, but it sure as hell is. Haven't played the multiplayer yet, and frankly it doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell against Battlefield 4, but hopefully there's something more than boredom and incredulity to that. Boy, it sure is pretty though.

#32 Posted by darkvare (758 posts) -

the developments that happend during the last act of killzone 3 made me wanna punch the writer in the face so this does not surprise me one bit

#33 Edited by Heltom92 (703 posts) -

Just finished it, when the first credits started I actually said "is that it?" out loud. The actual ending was better but only by the tiniest bit.

#34 Posted by Irishdoom (333 posts) -

Wait a second, aren't we talking about a shooter here? The genre isn't really a bastion of great storytelling. I had a lot of fun with the game and thought the ending was stupidly fine.

#35 Edited by Lysergica33 (517 posts) -

I was never into the Killzone games but I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of this game, aside from that intro where you play as kid Lucas which struck me as being cringey in the extreme. The way the story arc went was all very obvious but for some reason it still gave me a feeling of satisfaction at the end of it.

#36 Posted by Yodasdarkside (276 posts) -

The statement made above, that the universe has never truly been capitalized on is absolutely spot on. Although I live the series a great deal, they have always ended badly and been poorly handled. They play well, which is what keeps me coming back. I love the heavier, more tactical feel of Killzone vs the 'who can react fastest' of CoD and the 'walk for ages across this giant map to get sniped' of BF.

#37 Posted by cloudnineboya (763 posts) -

anyone else think destiny looks very killzoney. looking forward to playing it, i got a copy but no ps4 anyone got a spare ps4.

#38 Posted by Khronikos (67 posts) -

Honestly, most vets started to not care about the SP much starting with 3. I had a decent time in Shadow Fall and would rate campaign a C. I don't really get people who come to this series for story to be honest. It is just like your Crysis stuff. Average writing makes it average in the end. Doesn't mean it is boring though. I had a fun time searching for stuff in SF.

The multiplayer is where this game is not being well addressed in reviews. 10/10 when they get the chat patch and more maps up along with whatever else. Seriously, just the best FPS MP out there.

#39 Posted by Microshock (341 posts) -

Honestly, most vets started to not care about the SP much starting with 3. I had a decent time in Shadow Fall and would rate campaign a C. I don't really get people who come to this series for story to be honest. It is just like your Crysis stuff. Average writing makes it average in the end. Doesn't mean it is boring though. I had a fun time searching for stuff in SF.

The multiplayer is where this game is not being well addressed in reviews. 10/10 when they get the chat patch and more maps up along with whatever else. Seriously, just the best FPS MP out there.

The universe they created for the series is quite decent from what i've heard.