#1 Edited by Anwar (852 posts) -

I've played Knack at a con and it had 3-4 levels or parts of levels and the game was uninteresting as hell. You can't really do much except for dodging, jumping, attacking and doing a homing attack after you jump. There is a bar which gets filled up and you can use it for special attacks. There also seems to be no difference when you're small or big. The game would be okay if it was a spiritual successor to Crash Bandicoot for the PS2(I forgot that there were even PS2 games with Crash in it, I meant as a sequel to the PS1 games, sorry for the confusion). I don't want to talk shit or anything, but the game was extremely underwhelming and the gameplay mechanics were incredibly shallow. I don't know how complete this build of the game was, but I'm still not very optimistic regarding this launch title.

#2 Posted by RonGalaxy (2878 posts) -

Yeah, that's what I figured. It looks like a run of the mill take on an old idea. If the story was any good I might think of trying it, but Im not sure of that either. Probably gonna end up picking it up in the bargain bin.

#3 Posted by handlas (2661 posts) -

Looked like it fell in the Kameo category for me. Mediocre kid-friendly launch title kind of game. Which is why I just got Killzone with my bundle... at least it looks pretty and I liked Killzone 2.

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#4 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4970 posts) -

So it's a launch title? Alrighty then.

#5 Posted by Zella (704 posts) -

What you say could be completing l completely true but l can't trust the word of someone who uses the ps2 Crash games when referencing the series.

#6 Posted by marc (492 posts) -

I look forward to playing it someday, but always intended to wait until it pops up for free on PS+

#7 Edited by NekuSakuraba (7240 posts) -

I'll still be picking it up on launch day. From what I've seen it looks like a pretty fun game, but I haven't actually played it yet, shame if it turns out to be bland.

#8 Posted by TruthTellah (8552 posts) -

@anwar: I thought it was more of a kids/casual game. Is that not right? I could see it being a bit boring, especially if the demo had it at a less than challenging difficulty level.

#9 Edited by mrcraggle (1832 posts) -

I played it very briefly at Eurogamer and it seemed fine for its targeted demographic. This could be Sony's next big franchise but who knows. Most launch titles are fairly bad or just rushed and don't explore their full potential (see Uncharted 2).

#10 Posted by MonetaryDread (1993 posts) -
@handlas said:

Looked like it fell in the Kameo category for me.

That is exactly the game that I was reminded of whenever I see Knack. I didn't mind Kameo, but then again I made the mistake of buying a launch console so I probably had a skewed perspective on the game. I think psychologists would say that it is self-deception with a bit of cognitive dissonance thrown in.

#11 Posted by JasonR86 (9609 posts) -

It kind of reminds me of Kameo. A game out of time really that shouldn't be on consoles because lets be honest that style of game rarely works anymore. But I really liked Kameo and would probably like this game. But I also bought Kameo for like $10 used so...

#12 Posted by Cold_Wolven (2212 posts) -

Feels like a 3/5 type game is I'm gonna make any sort of presumption on the types of reviews this game will receive, even if it has a good story going for it I don't think it will be enough to hold anyone's attention over the simplistic game play. I guess you still need those nice simplistic games for kids on consoles but it makes me wonder with the kids of today how many of them would rather just play an iOS game.

#13 Posted by SSully (4128 posts) -

I played it very briefly at Eurogamer and it seemed fine for its targeted demographic. This could be Sony's next big franchise but who knows. Most launch titles are fairly bad or just rushed and don't explore their full potential (see Uncharted 2).

What are you referencing Uncharted 2 for? Uncharted 1 wasn't a launch game, it came out a full year after the PS3.

As for Knack, I think it looks neat but not something I would put money down on until I read some reviews first.

#14 Posted by TheHT (10906 posts) -

@zella said:

What you say could be completing l completely true but l can't trust the word of someone who uses the ps2 Crash games when referencing the series.

What.

#15 Posted by Castiel (2533 posts) -

I played it very briefly at Eurogamer and it seemed fine for its targeted demographic. This could be Sony's next big franchise but who knows. Most launch titles are fairly bad or just rushed and don't explore their full potential (see Uncharted 2).

Uncharted 2 is one of the best games of this generation. Its way of merging gameplay and cinematics is way beyond most other games and it was also a game that had to be made in order for The Last of Us to exist today.

Please specify where U2 fails.

#16 Posted by Nodima (1106 posts) -

I believe he meant the game plays like it should have been Naughty Dog's Playstation 2 franchise, if Naughty Dog hadn't gone open world (and eventually guns) with Jak and Daxter instead. Not that it reminds him of PS2 Crash games.

Obviously I'll wait to see video or get my hands on it at a kiosk somewhere but seeing as there haven't been many light, goofy platformers this generation other than the Ratchet series (which I haven't played since Going Commando, admittedly) I do have a bit of a soft spot for Knack until it proves to me I just have to leave games like that in the past.

#17 Posted by probablytuna (3547 posts) -
@castiel said:

@mrcraggle said:

I played it very briefly at Eurogamer and it seemed fine for its targeted demographic. This could be Sony's next big franchise but who knows. Most launch titles are fairly bad or just rushed and don't explore their full potential (see Uncharted 2).

Uncharted 2 is one of the best games of this generation. Its way of merging gameplay and cinematics is way beyond most other games and it was also a game that had to be made in order for The Last of Us to exist today.

Please specify where U2 fails.

I think what mrcraggle is saying is that Uncharted 2 is what Uncharted: Drake's Fortune should've been.

#18 Posted by Gaff (1654 posts) -

@theht said:

@zella said:

What you say could be completing l completely true but l can't trust the word of someone who uses the ps2 Crash games when referencing the series.

What.

The PS2 Crash games were... shit.

#19 Edited by Anwar (852 posts) -

@truthtellah: Well, I'd like to think that even kids can determine if something is crappy and not engaging and that's how I felt about this.

Another thing is that the enemies don't really do much, there were 3 different difficulty levels(easy, normal and hard) and the enemies didn't do much else than take more damage and dish more out when you put it on hard

@nodima said:

I believe he meant the game plays like it should have been Naughty Dog's Playstation 2 franchise, if Naughty Dog hadn't gone open world (and eventually guns) with Jak and Daxter instead. Not that it reminds him of PS2 Crash games.

Obviously I'll wait to see video or get my hands on it at a kiosk somewhere but seeing as there haven't been many light, goofy platformers this generation other than the Ratchet series (which I haven't played since Going Commando, admittedly) I do have a bit of a soft spot for Knack until it proves to me I just have to leave games like that in the past.

You're right, that's basically what I meant.

Best thing about that demo for me was trying out the new PS4 controller, I was one of those who even liked that the dualshock 3, but the dualshock 4 is way more comfortable and L2 and R2 buttons are way better, the touchpad felt a lil' bit flimsy, maybe because of the overuse during the con, it looked like it would come off any second.

#20 Posted by Anwar (852 posts) -

@gaff said:

@theht said:

@zella said:

What you say could be completing l completely true but l can't trust the word of someone who uses the ps2 Crash games when referencing the series.

What.

The PS2 Crash games were... shit.

I totally forgot that there even were crash bandicoot games for the ps2, my bad for creating this confusion.

#21 Edited by PandaBear (1308 posts) -

Knack has always looked shit. I think they gave Cerny a free pass for all his hard work. But yeah, it doesn't even look that impressive. Probably should have been a PS3/PSV title

#22 Posted by ch3burashka (5017 posts) -

Why don't you just go memorize more Korn lyrics then.

#23 Posted by onarum (2016 posts) -

I knew Knack would be uninteresting and generic the moment I saw the first footage, maybe it's geared more towards kids?

Either way I'm not getting it.

#24 Posted by joshwent (2131 posts) -

Do we have to keep judging games before they come out?

I'm completely willing to accept that this'll be one bland-ass game, but man, just wait to actually see and whine about some other stuff then.

#25 Edited by Anwar (852 posts) -

@joshwent: I've played it, so I don't see why I'm not allowed to say what I think about this game, how about you stop whining when somebody talks about an unreleased game?

#26 Posted by mrfluke (5093 posts) -

@anwar said:

@joshwent: I've played it, so I don't see why I'm not allowed to say what I think about this game, how about you stop whining when somebody talks about an unreleased game?

its criticism, OP has the right to voice an opinion, its not the be all end all opinion, no opinion is like that. everyone has a different opinion,

for instance, i also played it at a convention and i disagree with the OP as i found it to be pretty fun as they succeeded at making a throwback title (i believe cerny is on record saying its a throwback type of title)

#27 Posted by alanm26v5 (439 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

It kind of reminds me of Kameo. A game out of time really that shouldn't be on consoles because lets be honest that style of game rarely works anymore. But I really liked Kameo and would probably like this game. But I also bought Kameo for like $10 used so...

I'm not getting a PS4 at launch, but if I were I'd probably be picking this up. Kameo was probably my favorite early 360 game too. I kind of am drawn to titles like this because there just aren't that many decent ones being made anymore, and usually you can't find them on PC. I guess I'll agree with you that they don't work anymore in that they don't have the mass market appeal to support a big budget and I'm in the minority.

#28 Posted by squiDc00kiE (350 posts) -

@zella: This. Correct good sir.

#29 Posted by ajamafalous (11862 posts) -

About what I expected then. Looked like a Kameo-esque launch game, which, I dunno guys, I don't need every single game I play to be mindblowing. I like to relax and play easy games every once in a while, too.

I won't buy it for $60, but I think 10-25 / free on PS+ is reasonable.

#30 Posted by mrcraggle (1832 posts) -

@ssully: I referenced UC2 simply because it's the only sequel to an early PS3 exclusive that really delivered in its sequel. I couldn't exactly say the same for the sequels to Haze, Lair or Genji. The PS3 also came out in Europe in March 2007 and the first year for the PS3 was pretty dire.

#31 Edited by csl316 (8146 posts) -

Meh, Crash 2 had a jump, slide, and attack. And that's one of my favorite PS1 games.

If anything, I wish the Knack combat was a little simpler. I'm worried that they're putting brawler mechanics into a platformer.

#32 Posted by Spoonman671 (4562 posts) -

I expect it to be about as complex as some of the PS2-era 3D action-platformers that it is so clearly attempting to emulate. Games don't really need to be complex to be enjoyable, and Knack will be something enjoyable to play at launch on my new console. I think that's exactly the niche it is supposed to fit into.

#33 Posted by Vanick (318 posts) -

I'm looking for a good platformer like Ratchet & Clank or Jak & Daxter for the new consoles and this seems like the only game on PS4 or the XBO like that so I'm hoping this ends up being that game.

#34 Posted by chiablo (907 posts) -

Reminds me of another boring launch title...

#35 Posted by SSully (4128 posts) -

@ssully: I referenced UC2 simply because it's the only sequel to an early PS3 exclusive that really delivered in its sequel. I couldn't exactly say the same for the sequels to Haze, Lair or Genji. The PS3 also came out in Europe in March 2007 and the first year for the PS3 was pretty dire.

That's perfectly fine, but it doesn't work because it wasn't a launch title(for USA, Japan, or Europe).

#36 Edited by BoOzak (882 posts) -

I played Ryse at Eurogamer and that was complete shit. I'm willing to bet it'll improve by the time it comes out though. I dont think conventions are the best place to judge games. I'm pretty sure there's going to be more gameplay elements in the actual game. Whether it's fun to play or not, who knows. Conceptually Knack does seem kind of bland though.

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#37 Posted by fuzzypumpkin (383 posts) -
#38 Posted by Glottery (1113 posts) -

I'd be more than happy to play a casual platformer as one of the launch titles, but Knack's visual design seems incredibly bland. I'm all for cartoony look, but not something overly saturday morning-like...

#39 Posted by BBAlpert (1377 posts) -

@glottery said:

I'd be more than happy to play a casual platformer as one of the launch titles, but Knack's visual design seems incredibly bland. I'm all for cartoony look, but not something overly saturday morning-like...

I don't know, I kind of like the design. It is hard to look at the gameplay and not just see a particle system Ganondorf running around punching Shreks in the face, though.

#40 Posted by ArtisanBreads (3756 posts) -

Even Kameo had more than one three hit combo guys.

#41 Posted by afabs515 (1012 posts) -

The only reason this game exists is to demonstrate the particle effects. Just based on the QL and everything they showed off prior to launch, it looked pretty bland gameplay wise.

#42 Posted by Hailinel (23928 posts) -

Knack is the next generation incarnation of every mediocre mascot action-platformer dating back to the PS2.

#43 Posted by TheManWithNoPlan (5253 posts) -

Exactly as I expected. I'm still going to play through it since it's in my possession and I want to play games on my shiny new console.

#44 Edited by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

Launch game voes. Keep on waiting is all I have to say.

#45 Posted by Marokai (2811 posts) -

@hailinel said:

Knack is the next generation incarnation of every mediocre mascot action-platformer dating back to the PS2.

And for some (bizarre) reason that seems interesting to me, I dunno.