#1 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

MIND≒0 (here's the teaser site), new Vita game announced by Acquire, has a few similarities to the modern Persona series. This Japanese blog, for example, is saying it's a Persona 3 ripoff. Because of this, I feel compelled to make a list of similarities between Mind 0 and Persona 3.

Mind 0Persona 3
JRPG (turn-based battles)JRPG (turn-based battles)
High school settingHigh school setting
Set in modern day Japan (Akihabara, Yokohama, Amamiya, and Nippori...)Set in modern day Japan (fictional locations)
Two worlds (real and spiritual)Two worlds (real and Tartarus)
Characters use the power of MIND (Mental Inside Nobody Doll) in the spiritual world that summons an otherworldly being from one's soul to battle.Characters use the power of Persona in Tartarus that summons an otherworldly being from one's soul to battle.
2D adventure game-like conversation scenes.*Social Links.*
Character portraits (in battle and in dialogue)Character portraits (in battle and in dialogue)

*Currently nebulous similarity.

I'll update this as more info comes along.

#2 Posted by Evikull (60 posts) -

"Mental Inside Nobody Doll"?

oh man.

#3 Edited by tread311 (354 posts) -

More games like Persona 3 would be ok with me.

#4 Posted by BlackLagoon (1385 posts) -

Hard to tell exactly given we're relying on summarized translations, but given that it's being called a "Dungeon RPG", that typically means Wizardry style gameplay like Zerodiv's Class of Heroes games (first person perspective) rather than the more "traditional" third person view of the newer Persona games.

#5 Posted by Brodehouse (9649 posts) -

Sounds like the difference is 3.

FUCKING MATHEMATICS HUMOR UP TOP BITCHES OWWWWW

#6 Edited by ChrisTobin (56 posts) -

It does seem a lot like Persona 3, but if it's good I'll buy it.

#7 Edited by Winternet (8008 posts) -
@evikull said:

"Mental Inside Nobody Doll"?

oh man.

This is definitely some Japanese silliness.

#8 Posted by JZ (2125 posts) -

This is a good thing. A rip off of somthing amazing is not as amazing but still good.

#9 Edited by MikkaQ (10269 posts) -

There can never be enough RPGs set in modern Japan.

#10 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -
#11 Posted by Bocam (3681 posts) -

Well here's a VN called 11eyes. It is basically Persona 3 with porn. Persona 3 rip offs are not uncommon in Japan.

#12 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

@bocam said:

Well here's a VN called 11eyes. It is basically Persona 3 with porn. Persona 3 rip offs are not uncommon in Japan.

But that's a VN, not an RPG. Plus, do the characters have something like Personas/MINDs? I feel that Mind 0 is the only game that's ever been this similar to Persona 3.

#13 Posted by mtcantor (947 posts) -

Well isn't Persona just an adult dating sim rip off of Pokemon?

*ducks for cover and books it*

#14 Posted by Bocam (3681 posts) -

@bocam said:

Well here's a VN called 11eyes. It is basically Persona 3 with porn. Persona 3 rip offs are not uncommon in Japan.

But that's a VN, not an RPG. Plus, do the characters have something like Personas/MINDs? I feel that Mind 0 is the only game that's ever been this similar to Persona 3.

There is a character named Misuzu, who looks exactly like Mitsuru. They also fights things that could be considered shadows. 11eyes also has a hidden 13th hour.

#15 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

@bocam said:

There is a character named Misuzu, who looks exactly like Mitsuru. They also fights things that could be considered shadows. 11eyes also has a hidden 13th hour.

I guess that's some, but the fact that this is a RPG with all of the other similarities I listed really makes all the difference. The only other one I can think of that could be somewhat similar is Conception, but that's about it.

#16 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -
#17 Posted by envane (1159 posts) -

@fluxwavez: to be fair every japanese game has "2D adventure game-like conversation scenes.*" now. also i wouldnt defend personas originality with things like "Character portraits (in battle and in dialogue)" or "set in modern day japan" , and one could say the entire concept of personas is akin to Stands in jojo's bizzare adventure.

regardless of the orginality of either game this does seem like a blatant ripoff/cashin however.

#18 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

@envane said:

@fluxwavez: to be fair every japanese game has "2D adventure game-like conversation scenes.*" now. also i wouldnt defend personas originality with things like "Character portraits (in battle and in dialogue)" or "set in modern day japan" , and one could say the entire concept of personas is akin to Stands in jojo's bizzare adventure.

regardless of the orginality of either game this does seem like a blatant ripoff/cashin however.

I'm not really saying any of the particular aspects related to Persona is unique to only that game (plenty of games are JRPGs, for example), but that's why I want to list all of the similarities I find because I want to measure them as a whole, and so far they're superficially very similar.

#19 Posted by envane (1159 posts) -

@fluxwavez: like i said i agree with its similarity , but now that you point those things out its suprising how generic they are , to me the thing that makes persona unique is already fairly diluted from smt , i loved that post/pre apocalyptic feel that they toned down in favor of more "personal" themes ..and i dont think any spinoff / ripoff has come close to recreating that .. fuck it i have some more grinding/sidequests to do in strange journey .. back to hell i go