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#1 Edited by Enigma777 (6078 posts) -

I work part-time in a deli which means I get the delight of meetings customers from all walks of life. It's a... mixed... blessing.

About a month ago I had a gentleman come in and order a salad. He then informed me that I needed to change my gloves and replace ALL of the cutlery on the deck before I touched his food because he was vegan. I asked him what that has anything to do with it, and he scoffed and said that none of his food can touch animal byproducts and the like. Not wanting to argue, I did as he requested.

I didn't really think much of it at the time. I get picky customers from time to time (this needs to be sliced horizontally, not vertically; place this in a diagonal pattern, etc.) so I'm used to unusual requests. However I had a lady come in yesterday that also informed me that she was a vegan and she basically asked me to get all new ingredients from the cooler because the veggies were in close proximity to the meat. Well there's no fucking way I was going to do all that, especially since there were about 8 people waiting in line behind her so I just pointed to the door. Needless to say, she was not happy.

Now, I don't have any vegan friends (at least I don't think I do) and I've got nothing against what people decide to put in their mouths, but honestly, are all vegans such snobs or is this just an outlier? Because I can understand if you're allergic to something and asking for a change of gloves/etc, but this seems like taking it to the extreme.

#2 Posted by mordukai (7157 posts) -

No. But most are self righteous arseholes.

#3 Posted by NickL (2246 posts) -

Vegans are basically the hipsters of the vegetarian world.

#4 Edited by I_smell (3924 posts) -

People who are snobs don't usually say "Yes I'm a snob." ...Just a heads up for where this thread is going.

#5 Edited by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@Mordukai said:

No. But most are self righteous arseholes.

I can confirm this.  
 
@Enigma777 said:

I work part-time in a deli which means I get the delight of meetings customers from all walks of life. It's a... mixed... blessing.

About a month ago I had a gentleman come in and order a salad. He then informed me that I needed to change my gloves and replace ALL of the cutlery on the deck before I touched his food because he was vegan. I asked him what that has anything to do with it, and he scoffed and said that none of his food can touch animal byproducts and the like. Not wanting to argue, I did as he requested.

I didn't really think much of it at the time. I get picky customers from time to time (this needs to be slices horizontally, not vertically; place this in a diagonal pattern, etc.) so I'm used to unusual requests. However I had a lady come in yesterday that also informed me that she was a vegan and she basically asked me to get all new ingredients from the cooler because the veggies were in close proximity to the meat. Well there's no fucking way I was going to do all that, especially since there were about 8 people waiting in line behind her so I just pointed to the door. Needless to say, she was not happy.

Now, I don't have any vegan friends (at least I don't think I do) and I've got nothing against what people decide to put in their mouths, but honestly, are all vegans such snobs or is this some special case? Because I can understand if you're allergic to something and asking for a change of gloves/etc, but this seems like taking it to the extreme.

Also work in a deli. We get people who cant have "Pork" And have to spend about 5 mins cleaning EVERYTHING And change our gloves between touching EVERYTHING. So I know how you feel. If they want such little things carried out there is a Health food store not far from here. (Which I tell them) 
#6 Posted by Philantrophy (354 posts) -

Young or old? Maybe age has something to do with it, I can see younger people feeling that they have to show their lifestyle more.

#7 Posted by Enigma777 (6078 posts) -

@I_smell said:

People who are snobs don't usually say "Yes I'm a snob."

Just a heads up for where this thread is going.

I understand that. It's why the thread title isn't "ATTN Vegans: Are you snobs?"

#8 Posted by ExplodeMode (852 posts) -

I don't know most vegans.

#9 Posted by pyromagnestir (4326 posts) -

I believe a Venn diagram is in order.

#10 Posted by JasonR86 (9742 posts) -

I don't know. I've never met one. My guess is the users with the most impassioned posts on here likely haven't either.

#11 Edited by spartanlolz92 (511 posts) -

yeah most that i have had experience with are selfrighteous.

though one i met wasnt just apart of her religion tried to go out of her way to make sure it didnt affect hangingout and the like

#12 Posted by Enigma777 (6078 posts) -

@Philantrophy said:

Young or old? Maybe age has something to do with it, I can see younger people feeling that they have to show their lifestyle more.

The gentleman had gray hair, so I'd say he was probably around 50. The lady seemed like she was 30-something.

#13 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11301 posts) -

Of course they are. Trying to cut back on meat consumption for health reasons is one thing, but refusing to eat it at all? That's just un-American.

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#14 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

Those people sound dumb. As a vegetarian, all I say is no meat/chicken when ordering.

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#15 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

No. They are the only non-zombies in a fully zombie world. This is what Kirby has taught me.

#16 Posted by wjb (1675 posts) -

I know a few, and although they wish all people were vegan, they aren't unreasonable. I live in a fairly decent sized city, though, so they usually go to stores or restaurants that specialize in their lifestyle.

But vegans can be snobs, yes. Anyone that scoffs at someone for not being familiar with vegan/kosher (and not having much of a reason to) is a snob. BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S YOUR FAULT, OBVIOUSLY!

#17 Posted by eugenesaxe (199 posts) -

I don't know any vegans at all, and no strict vegetarians. Those who claim to be either one online are holier-than-thou pains in the ass.

#18 Edited by Rebel_Scum (741 posts) -

I know heaps of vegans and vegetarians due to where I live/work. Some are picky some aren't. Example, if there's a chicken curry some people pick out the chicken and eat the curry no problem. Others avoid the curry at all costs.

OP you're just unfortunate to come across two picky/arsehole ones. Thats their choice and usually don't mind waiting so long as they're happy with their service. You weren't providing them with good service imo. You're there to serve, not be judgemental on their expectations. Sure they demands were unreasonable (waiting time for others etc) but that doesn't excuse you not providing service the customer required.

p.s. I would've done the same thing with that lady though ;)

#19 Posted by P_Pigly_Hogswine (102 posts) -

I encounter quite a few vegans out and about (I live in a fairly hipsterized part of the city) and I wouldn't say they're snobs.

I will say they're often self-righteous, rude, preachy, intrusive, and annoying. I find they'll often comment on other people's diet choices while sitting next to them at a cafe/restaurant (had one refer to my meal containing meat as "what a waste of life"), and tend to be what we call "professional students" or what Portlandia calls "Young retirees". Late-20s thru 30s alternatives. Even my vegetarian friends don't rate them.

#20 Edited by PeasantAbuse (5138 posts) -

Most of them believe they are extremely special snowflakes.

@P_Pigly_Hogswine said:

I encounter quite a few vegans out and about (I live in a fairly hipsterized part of the city) and I wouldn't say they're snobs.

I will say they're often self-righteous, rude, preachy, intrusive, and annoying. I find they'll often comment on other people's diet choices while sitting next to them at a cafe/restaurant (had one refer to my meal containing meat as "what a waste of life"), and tend to be what we call "professional students" or what Portlandia calls "Young retirees". Late-20s thru 30s alternatives. Even my vegetarian friends don't rate them.

My city is full of these types of people as well, feels bad.

#21 Posted by Enigma777 (6078 posts) -

@Rebel_Scum said:

I know heaps of vegans and vegetarians due to where I live/work. Some are picky some aren't. Example, if there's a chicken curry some people pick out the chicken and eat the curry no problem. Others avoid the curry at all costs.

OP you're just unfortunate to come across two picky/arsehole ones. Thats their choice and usually don't mind waiting so long as they're happy with their service. You weren't providing them with good service imo. You're there to serve, not be judgemental on their expectations. Sure they demands were unreasonable (waiting time for others etc) but that doesn't excuse you not providing service the customer required.

p.s. I would've done the same thing with that lady though ;)

Well the owner keeps telling us that we're allowed to deny service to customers. I've seen him kick people out for the smallest of things. He's sorta like the Soup Nazi from Seinfeld. I told him about the incident afterwards and he just laughed and slapped me on the back.

#22 Posted by Philantrophy (354 posts) -

My answer to the vegans that look down on others, I respect your non meat life so you better respect my meat filled one.

#23 Posted by Funkofages (67 posts) -

To echo a few sentiments, yes they can be picky but most importantly, it's their right to be picky. They have the right to have their food how they want it, and you have the right to refuse service. If you tell them to kick rocks, I'm sure somewhere on the internet a forum thread will be started entitled "Are most deli workers snobs?"

#24 Posted by Example1013 (4834 posts) -

No, peta members are snobs.

#25 Posted by chrismafuchris (1088 posts) -

As a vegan, I feel there's nothing wrong with taking a stance against animal abuse, and a healthier diet never killed anyone, but you should not use your habits to unjustly put other people down. Personally, I don't eat meat much to begin with, and can live with almond milk and cheese substitutes, so becoming a vegan made sense.

#26 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7099 posts) -

@Funkofages said:

To echo a few sentiments, yes they can be picky but most importantly, it's their right to be picky. They have the right to have their food how they want it, and you have the right to refuse service. If you tell them to kick rocks, I'm sure somewhere on the internet a forum thread will be started entitled "Are most deli workers snobs?"

Once they start holding up a line full of hungry people they cease being within their rights. People like that absolutely deserve to be told off in public so they can learn how be considerate in a public place.

#27 Edited by benson (318 posts) -

I know some vegans, they're good people but yeah they can get self-righteous sometimes (I think it's a more appropriate adjective than snob in this case).

Still, you have to consider the issue from their point of view: if you believed that meat is murder and made the decision to not participate in the exploitation of animals, would you just stand there and say nothing when people around you are using meat, something that you consider immoral and ugly? I'm going to assume that you're not a pedophile, so wouldn't you speak up if people around you were trading pictures of naked kids and talking about how sweet the little boy they touched yesterday was?

#28 Posted by Godlyawesomeguy (6399 posts) -

I just laugh when they think they're eating "healthier" by abstaining from all animal products.

#29 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

I know that I've already said something in this thread, but am I the only person who mistook this title for "Are most vaginas snobs"? And should I make that thread?

#30 Posted by PeasantAbuse (5138 posts) -

@benson said:

I know some vegans, they're good people but yeah they can get self-righteous sometimes (I think it's a more appropriate adjective than snob in this case).

Still, you have to consider the issue from their point of view: if you believed that meat is murder and made the decision to not participate in the exploitation of animals, would you just stand there and say nothing when people around you are using meat, something that you consider immoral and ugly? I'm going to assume that you're not a pedophile, so wouldn't you speak up if people around were trading pictures of naked kids and talking about how sweet the little boy they touched yesterday was?

That's an absolutely ridiculous comparison.

#31 Posted by habster3 (3600 posts) -

I think that, like all people, they have the potential to show elitist attitudes; it's just that their elitism seems more obvious than some others because... well, it's something America/the world just isn't used to. That being said, however, one of my friends is a vegan and she's one of the sweetest girls I've ever met. Just saying.

#32 Posted by Orbitz89 (229 posts) -

I am against all forms of Vegetarianism and generally dislike any self righteous ponce who wants to get in my way of enjoying a balanced diet.

Human beings are Omnivores for fucks sake! we're meant to eat both meat and vegetables.

So in answer to your question about "are all vegans snobs?" Yeah, in my experience they are. I don't care if that sounds prejudice.. i hate Vegetarians.

#33 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

Maybe most snobs are vegan? :o 
 
I think it's a little bit of both. Some are snobs and some aren't. 
Snobs are on the meat eating side of things too! 

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#34 Edited by Korwin (2890 posts) -

If they're Vegan by way of cultural reasons generally not no. If they're Westerner vegan's by choice... then generally yes, those people often suck.

I was once in an indian restaurant having dinner when some stupid women in her 20's started making a scene with someone she was sitting with because some of his food or "DEAD FLESH" as she referred to it was near her cutlery having fallen off a plate.

#35 Posted by eroticfishcake (7786 posts) -

Like any other sub culture they're a mixed bag of people. I don't judge unless they make ridiculous requests/statements (like they lady you encountered). It doesn't help that they have that sort of reputation though. A lot of my non-Asian friends think I'm vegetarian/vegan since I eat a lot of tofu. You'll think by now that sort is a bit more mainstream in Western cultures but apparently it isn't.

#36 Posted by NTM (7479 posts) -

@P_Pigly_Hogswine said:

I will say they're often self-righteous, rude, preachy, intrusive, and annoying. I find they'll often comment on other people's diet choices while sitting next to them at a cafe/restaurant (had one refer to my meal containing meat as "what a waste of life"), and tend to be what we call "professional students" or what Portlandia calls "Young retirees". Late-20s thru 30s alternatives. Even my vegetarian friends don't rate them.

I don't think I've ever known a vegan, a vegetarian sure, but not so much vegan. If a vegan that I didn't know bothered me in public about what to eat and what not to eat, I'd shove a hoagie roll with roast beef and mayonnaise down their throats. No I wouldn't, but I'd want to to tell them in my own way that they're idiots.

#37 Posted by Gerhabio (1977 posts) -

no

#38 Posted by mandude (2669 posts) -

Only snobby vegans are snobs. You might never even know a non snobby vegan since they wont make it blatantly apparent, so be careful not to stereotype.

#39 Edited by Nilo (10 posts) -

This thread is pretty dumb.

#40 Posted by FraggingRights (85 posts) -

I've never met a vegan that didn't have to CONSTANTLY remind me that he/she was a vegan.

#41 Posted by Irvandus (2881 posts) -

Pescatarians are the best.

#42 Posted by UltimAXE (404 posts) -
@Enigma777 said:

@Rebel_Scum said:

I know heaps of vegans and vegetarians due to where I live/work. Some are picky some aren't. Example, if there's a chicken curry some people pick out the chicken and eat the curry no problem. Others avoid the curry at all costs.

OP you're just unfortunate to come across two picky/arsehole ones. Thats their choice and usually don't mind waiting so long as they're happy with their service. You weren't providing them with good service imo. You're there to serve, not be judgemental on their expectations. Sure they demands were unreasonable (waiting time for others etc) but that doesn't excuse you not providing service the customer required.

p.s. I would've done the same thing with that lady though ;)

Well the owner keeps telling us that we're allowed to deny service to customers. I've seen him kick people out for the smallest of things. He's sorta like the Soup Nazi from Seinfeld. I told him about the incident afterwards and he just laughed and slapped me on the back.

This might sound weird, but that's awesome because I hate customer service robots. It's one of the reasons why I've never wanted to go back to the service industry. Having worked in call centers for a number of years, I can safely say that the customer is not always right. If you're that particular about how your food is prepared, then you really should just be making it yourself.
 
Don't know any vegans or vegetarians myself. I know that you're not completely serious with your question, but I do my best not to generalize like that, otherwise I would hate everybody at all times. Some people are just way too passionate about their beliefs.
#43 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4976 posts) -

Most? Yes. All? No.

#44 Posted by crusader8463 (14423 posts) -

@UltimAXE said:

@Enigma777 said:

@Rebel_Scum said:

I know heaps of vegans and vegetarians due to where I live/work. Some are picky some aren't. Example, if there's a chicken curry some people pick out the chicken and eat the curry no problem. Others avoid the curry at all costs.

OP you're just unfortunate to come across two picky/arsehole ones. Thats their choice and usually don't mind waiting so long as they're happy with their service. You weren't providing them with good service imo. You're there to serve, not be judgemental on their expectations. Sure they demands were unreasonable (waiting time for others etc) but that doesn't excuse you not providing service the customer required.

p.s. I would've done the same thing with that lady though ;)

Well the owner keeps telling us that we're allowed to deny service to customers. I've seen him kick people out for the smallest of things. He's sorta like the Soup Nazi from Seinfeld. I told him about the incident afterwards and he just laughed and slapped me on the back.

This might sound weird, but that's awesome because I hate customer service robots. It's one of the reasons why I've never wanted to go back to the service industry. Having worked in call centers for a number of years, I can safely say that the customer is not always right. If you're that particular about how your food is prepared, then you really should just be making it yourself. Don't know any vegans or vegetarians myself. I know that you're not completely serious with your question, but I do my best not to generalize like that, otherwise I would hate everybody at all times. Some people are just way too passionate about their beliefs.

As someone who work(ed)s in a call centre I can not say enough how awesome it is to have a boss/job that lets you call out people being idiots. Obviously you gotta be nice and friendly to the customer, but there are just some pretentious snobby douche bags that don't deserve to be treated with respect. I have my last day coming up this Tuesday and I hope to hell I get a ton of those people because I plan to have some fun that day.

As for your question, I only really know of one person who's a vegetarian, but I don't think he's vegan because he will eat stuff like french fries cooked in grease. He was a nice guy and never really came across as snoby or an asshole. He had his moments when I asked him a few questions about his life choice of eating like that, but he was probably just in a bad mood that day. Never really got to know him that well but he struck me as a very laid back friendly person.

#45 Posted by Arker101 (1474 posts) -

@ZeForgotten said:

Maybe most snobs are vegan?
#46 Posted by RecSpec (3852 posts) -

YES! YES! YES! WORLD! HEAVYWEIGHT! CHAMPION!

#47 Posted by DoctorWelch (2774 posts) -

Basically, the only way not to be an annoying self-righteous snobby dick and also be a vegetarian/vegan is to do it with the only motivation being health/diet. One good way to know which end the person falls on is to see if he or she actively tells others about being a vegetarian/vegan.

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#49 Posted by TooWalrus (13237 posts) -

If they're not eating animal products because they're unhealthy, and just feel like living a healthier life, then whatever, more power to them, but if they legitimately believe that ANIMALS have fuckin' souls and deserve total animal liberation, then they're fuckin' idiots (who can also be snobby).

#50 Posted by cinemandrew (711 posts) -

@Enigma777: Both my wife and I are vegetarians, as is my sister. My dad is also a vegan, and none of us would have acted like that. There are certain things I won't deal with that others don't understand. For instance, picking the meat off of a slice pepperoni pizza is not the same as a slice of plain cheese. I'm never rude about it though. I don't like being an annoyance, or a burden. It's my choice to be vegetarian, and I don't expect everyone else to go out of their way to compensate for my choice. If I'm getting food with people, and they don't already know about my diet, I'll let them know, and try to offer some suggestions, but I'm never insistent. I spent years eating french fries at places like Burger King and Carl's Jr. while my friends ate giant burgers. It's so much easier to be vegetarian than it was when I first started.