Can't create a Neogaf account with a "free email address" why?

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#1  Edited By big_jon

Can someone explain this to me, I really don't understand the reasoning behind this, it just seems really dumb.

I didn't know you could pay for Email...

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#2  Edited By FluxWaveZ

To make it more exclusive, probably.

Also, we're not NeoGAF here. So...

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#3  Edited By zero_

You pay for your ISP's included email address. NeoGAF does so as a preventative albeit minor measure to curb the amount of idiots.

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#4  Edited By BeachThunder

Forget Neogaf; we are the only e-family you will ever need.

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#5  Edited By mnzy

It's a pretty dumb thing, really. 

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#6  Edited By big_jon

@BeachThunder said:

Forget Neogaf; we are the only e-family you will ever need.

:`D

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#7  Edited By TheSouthernDandy

I've never checked that place out and I could be totally wrong but everything I've heard about gaf makes it seem like that place kinda sucks.

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#8  Edited By Three0neFive

A lot of people see GAF's restrictions as stuck-up and elitist, but honestly, creating a barrier to entry like that is a fantastic way to curb the trolling and idiocy found on most forums.

Fuck SA, though.

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#9  Edited By big_jon

@TheSouthernDandy said:

I've never checked that place out and I could be totally wrong but everything I've heard about gaf makes it seem like that place kinda sucks.

Do tell.

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#10  Edited By Jimbo
@Three0neFive said:

A lot of people see GAF's restrictions as stuck-up and elitist, but honestly, creating a barrier to entry like that is a fantastic way to curb the trolling and idiocy found on most forums.

They don't consider it stuck-up and elitist because it's a circle-jerk of industry types?
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#11  Edited By VierasTalo

It's also a lot easier to prevent people make more than one account with the email restrictions.

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#12  Edited By Portis

I like Neogaf @big_jon said:

Can someone explain this to me, I really don't understand the reasoning behind this, it just seems really dumb.

I didn't know you could pay for Email...

While there are pay email services, most people on that forum use their work emails or student emails (.edu) to sign up.

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#13  Edited By Dany

It is the easiest way to prevent trolls and dumb-asses from ruining the forums. I don't see whats wrong with it, it works.

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#14  Edited By mikemcn

They're trying to tell you you're not good enough for them. Forget those losers.

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#15  Edited By TheSouthernDandy

I THINK it was Jeff Cannata who was waiting months for his account to be accepted. A dude like that is the last person who's gonna start trolling and he's gotta wait to be accepted on a video game forum? I get keeping out trolls but I dunno. Seems silly. But thats just my opinion.

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#16  Edited By Dany

Yeah, actually signing up you need a legit email and you have to wait in order to be accepted. By that point anyone who was attempting to 'troll' forgot about why they signed up for the site.

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#17  Edited By musubi

Funny thing I have a NeoGaf account back from when this wasn't a restriction yet I never use it. Place sucks. Fuck the ivory tower I'd rather be down in the shit with you motherfuckers.

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#18  Edited By yetiantics

I dunno. To be pricks?

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#19  Edited By iamjohn

@TheSouthernDandy said:

I THINK it was Jeff Cannata who was waiting months for his account to be accepted. A dude like that is the last person who's gonna start trolling and he's gotta wait to be accepted on a video game forum? I get keeping out trolls but I dunno. Seems silly. But thats just my opinion.

All new accounts have to be administrator-approved, which is fine in theory because like the "no free email accounts" rule, it puts a second check in there against troll or dupe accounts. The problem, as I've always understood it, is that Evilore (the dude who owns NeoGAF) is the only one who can do it and he's a lazy piece of shit so he only ever gets around to it once every eight months or so.

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#20  Edited By Patman99

@Demoskinos said:

Funny thing I have a NeoGaf account back from when this wasn't a restriction yet I never use it. Place sucks. Fuck the ivory tower I'd rather be down in the shit with you motherfuckers.

No kidding. Giant Bomb is the best dating advice website I've ever been too. Just weird that they post a lot of news about video games...

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Uh oh, don't insult gaf! They might make a thread about you.

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#22  Edited By MrKlorox

But using your ISP provided email address always seems stupid since it'll be gone if you change ISPs, unless you want to pay a fee to just keep the address. Being screwed by this twice already, I was elated to get into gmail a little early.

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#23  Edited By iamjohn

@MrKlorox said:

But using your ISP provided email address always seems stupid since it'll be gone if you change ISPs, unless you want to pay a fee to just keep the address. Being screwed by this twice already, I was elated to get into gmail a little early.

It's only used for account creation and approval, nothing else.

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

Uh oh, don't insult gaf! They might make a thread about you.

Is this a reference to that time someone made a thread on here asking why NeoGAF has a bunch of threads based on Giant Bomb and why they don't just come post here that ended with a bunch of GAF posters (myself included) showing up in that thread to start a fake war with GAF?

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#24  Edited By Dany

One thing I like about gaf is how they usually have everything posted, news related, at the moment it breaks with a full synopsis and breakdown of the details. The folks there that do that are really on top of their game.

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#25  Edited By VetleNM

If it had worked as intended, I wouldn't see any problem with it. For some weird reason, my university email is not accepted (@uit.no); I've tried signing up twice, and my account was rejected after a couple of months both times. That kinda sucks, but I'm not an active poster in any way, so it doesn't matter that much to me. It's still by far my favourite forum to lurk on.

I can totally see where they're coming from, though. It limits the amount of accounts one person can have, and it keeps trolls and idiots at bay. A ban is more meaningful if you can't just sign up again without going through some extra hoops, and their activation process takes forever, so you wouldn't be able to jump back into the fray right away anyway. And practically everyone's got access to a "premium" email account in some way, either through their parents, their ISP, their school or university, or their work.

It's nice we still have forums like this though, where everything you need to sign up is a regular old web-based email address.

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#26  Edited By Portis

I'm still waiting for my NeoGAF account to be approved, but I do really like that forum. I'm really looking forward to being able to participate community forum so I can play with a big group of people in various multiplayer games.

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#27  Edited By big_jon

@Demoskinos said:

Funny thing I have a NeoGaf account back from when this wasn't a restriction yet I never use it. Place sucks. Fuck the ivory tower I'd rather be down in the shit with you motherfuckers.

I really love this statement, it reeks with awesomeness.

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#28  Edited By MeierTheRed

Gaf is like the game industrys playpen where developers and so on can be anonymous and post all the smack they wan't to.

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#29  Edited By StarvingGamer

Because they don't understand that people move and change jobs.

Also assholes.

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#30  Edited By musubi
@pornstorestiffi Dunno about that Dennis Dyack got in a pretty public spat with Gaffers I think in early 2011 I wanna say? Could have been 2010 too.
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#31  Edited By MeierTheRed

@Demoskinos said:

@pornstorestiffi Dunno about that Dennis Dyack got in a pretty public spat with Gaffers I think in early 2011 I wanna say? Could have been 2010 too.

Try 2008 haha. Well some of them are very open about who they are. But not all of them. Dennis Dyack got him self banned on GAF because of his holy crusade.

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#32  Edited By musubi
@pornstorestiffi Wow really it was that far back? Shows what I know!
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#33  Edited By Hunter5024

@iAmJohn said:

Is this a reference to that time someone made a thread on here asking why NeoGAF has a bunch of threads based on Giant Bomb and why they don't just come post here that ended with a bunch of GAF posters (myself included) showing up in that thread to start a fake war with GAF?

That's awesome. Behold the glorious possibilities of the anonymous internet. A war with Oneself.

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#34  Edited By alternate

I doubt it ss laziness that prevents verification of accounts. They like to keep the numbers down to foster the idea that they are the elite and when industry and press bitch about how even they can't get accounts it just feeds the ego.

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#35  Edited By WMWA

Do they just reject accounts even if you have a legit email? I signed up about a month ago using my state work email, haven't heard anything yet. Actually kinda forgot. @state.(my state abbrev).us

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#36  Edited By FluxWaveZ

@wmaustin55: I believe some have literally waited for one year to be accepted, so you should probably wait for more than a month.

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#37  Edited By WMWA
@FluxWaveZ Yeah I just didn't know if they don't accept people just because they don't want to. Like if even all my info is legit it'll still get rejected for some reason.
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#38  Edited By N7

I used to know a lady who got accepted six months after she signed up.
 
I think I'm good here, personally.

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#39  Edited By pickassoreborn

Think I once tried to create a NeoGAF account way back when to mingle with fellow game devs. NeoGAF admin didn't let me into their treehouse. :(
 
Am I missing much?

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#40  Edited By TheKing

I've had a NeoGAF account for awhile now, never posted anything though.

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@iAmJohn said:

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

Uh oh, don't insult gaf! They might make a thread about you.

Is this a reference to that time someone made a thread on here asking why NeoGAF has a bunch of threads based on Giant Bomb and why they don't just come post here that ended with a bunch of GAF posters (myself included) showing up in that thread to start a fake war with GAF?

Something like that!
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#42  Edited By Phatmac

Why do you need them when you have us? You're not cheating on us right?

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#43  Edited By big_jon

@Phatmac: No, just infiltrating as I Giantbomb spy. :D

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I'm still embittered by this policy for their forum. It's a dang internet forum and this policy seems to lock out so many people, all for the sake of preventing something that of course still exists on there anyways "internet idiots or whatever".

@vetlenm said:

And practically everyone's got access to a "premium" email account in some way, either through their parents, their ISP, their school or university, or their work.

I don't know... I've been using Gmail for almost a decade it feels like, I'd have to actually call up my ISP and get them to jump me through hoops to get my ISP email address working again, that seems incredible stupid just to access an online forum. The whole policy feels like a case of burning the many to try and save the few, though the few kinda burn anyways.

I just saw the latest new looking version of neogaf and got sad that I'll never be able to register an account :(

I 'get' the reasons for the policy, I also 'get' the reasons for eugenics. The scale of these issues couldn't be farther from each other but the irony is basically the same.

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#45  Edited By Humanity

It's pretty stupid. SomethingAwful does it way better by making most of the forums restricted behind a paywall so that you're actively discouraged from being an idiot because you paid to post there and if you get banned you will have to pay again.

Which of course doesn't stop some people from constantly getting banned and buying their way back in - a great source of revenue for Lowtax.

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I like Metafilters policy, which is to charge 5 bucks for each new account. It's a small enough sum to be essentially symbolic, but it keeps the vast hordes of the internet out and makes it an awesome community.

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This is why nobody should go to neogaf!

non-free email... really...

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@humanity said:

It's pretty stupid. SomethingAwful does it way better by making most of the forums restricted behind a paywall so that you're actively discouraged from being an idiot because you paid to post there and if you get banned you will have to pay again.

Which of course doesn't stop some people from constantly getting banned and buying their way back in - a great source of revenue for Lowtax.

I find this paywall stuff way more stupid than the non-free email adress requirement at Neogaf.

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#49  Edited By lord_canti

as some one who has never been to neogaf and only seen it mentioned here and there i can only assume its because they occasionally have nameable people on there e.g. denis dyack or people from company's putting out leaks. asking for you to not use a free address will stop people making a account putting out something slanderous or fake information and disappearing into the sunset.

i direct you to reddit's /r/gaming a couple of months back, they had some one make a post about being given a tour around a pr firm and overhearing people talking about upvoting/creating positive xbox one posts and mass downvoting negative ones. when the mods looked into it they found it to be entirely false with little evidence, but in the mean time this had been spread around forums and such and became a bigger thing than it should be.

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I´m using a PAID email and even so, they dont approve my account.