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#1 Posted by super2j (1752 posts) -

I think batman could never beat superman, no matter how much cooler batman is compared to superman. But lets say we throw in another hero(videogame variety). Who would tip the battle towards batman. 
II think kratos at full power could do some dammage. And both are angry and dark, sooo win win.

#2 Posted by Breadfan (6590 posts) -

I believe Batman has beaten Superman. Multiple times.

#3 Posted by JJOR64 (19052 posts) -

I was going to say post this over at Comic Vine, but it would probably get locked in 2 seconds.

#4 Posted by sopranosfan (1935 posts) -

Superman is pretty much invincible and Batman is mortal.  The only way Batman could beat Superman is with Kryptonite.  But Batman is much cooler than Superman because he is mortal.

#5 Posted by super2j (1752 posts) -

well assuming batman doesnt have any kryptonite. i dont think batman could do it without kryptonite right.

#6 Posted by ZoRzEr (130 posts) -

Batman comes prepared. BAT CAVE ON ARKHAM FFS.

#7 Posted by HaltIamReptar (2029 posts) -

If Batman had a week to prepare, then yes.  Absolutely.  Batman always has a plan.  Also, in one story line, it was revealed that Batman has plans to kill everybody in the DC universe, if it came down to it.  No joke.  Superman, the Joker, the Calculator, you name it.  Everybody.

#8 Posted by GunstarRed (5404 posts) -

Read the Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller...your question shall be answered.
#9 Posted by PenguinDust (12604 posts) -
@Br3adfan said:
" I believe Batman has beaten Superman. Multiple times. "
This.  Bruce Wayne don't take no crap.
#10 Posted by L33tfella_H (901 posts) -
@HaltIamReptar said:
" If Batman had a week to prepare, then yes.  Absolutely.  Batman always has a plan.  Also, in one story line, it was revealed that Batman has plans to kill everybody in the DC universe, if it came down to it.  No joke.  Superman, the Joker, the Calculator, you name it.  Everybody. "
yep. I believe Superman even gave batman a Kryptonite ring or something like that, to make sure if Superman ever became a threat, he could be stopped.
#11 Posted by HatKing (6065 posts) -
@Br3adfan said:
"I believe Batman has beaten Superman. Multiple times. "

I believe he has a kryptonite ring... I've seen him knock Superman the fuck out with a punch while wearing the ring.
#12 Posted by JoelTGM (5596 posts) -

Well, Batman would probably be smart enough to obtain some krytonite and shove it down Superman's throat.  I hate Superman and I've read both Superman and Batman comics.  Superman is an idiot.

#13 Posted by super2j (1752 posts) -
@PenguinDust said:
" @Br3adfan said:
" I believe Batman has beaten Superman. Multiple times. "
This.  Bruce Wayne don't take no crap.
"
Where did u get this??? 
 
@L33tfella_H said:
" @HaltIamReptar said:
" If Batman had a week to prepare, then yes.  Absolutely.  Batman always has a plan.  Also, in one story line, it was revealed that Batman has plans to kill everybody in the DC universe, if it came down to it.  No joke.  Superman, the Joker, the Calculator, you name it.  Everybody. "
yep. I believe Superman even gave batman a Kryptonite ring or something like that, to make sure if Superman ever became a threat, he could be stopped. "
Yes that is very true.
#14 Posted by blackbird415 (777 posts) -

superman is meant to be the almost all powerful super hero, but with one weakness. he has all of the basic super powers. honestly I think realistically batman could easily beat superman. kryptonite bat suit, simple as that :P then superman couldnt 
even touch him, but if I had to pick another super hero it would be the silver surfer, but thats also over kill considering his power comes from the sun, the more sun he gets the more powerful he is (seattle would be a bad place for him :P)

#15 Posted by Breadfan (6590 posts) -
#16 Posted by blackbird415 (777 posts) -
@L33tfella_H: I think i remember that
#17 Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff (5457 posts) -

Batman has already beaten Superman. Superman is a punk-ass bitch.

#18 Posted by ZombieHunterOG (3530 posts) -

 IN RUSSIA BATMAN OWNS SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!
#19 Edited by HitmanAgent47 (8576 posts) -

No, however batman is smarter than superman. However batman is only human, superman is not. In the cartoon like JLA, batman always carries a bit of kryptonite incase he needs it if superman goes crazy and stuff.

#20 Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff (5457 posts) -

Also, I just want to state that anyone who says "No" is factually incorrect as it has already happened.

#21 Posted by RetroIce4 (4392 posts) -

Nope because Superman isn't even a human. Batman will have this elaborate plan but Superman is just undefeatable unless Batman carries around Kryptonite.

#22 Posted by Godlyawesomeguy (6401 posts) -

Vinny would kick both their asses with his mind.
#23 Posted by VWGTI (1919 posts) -

Anytime a Batman vs ???? topic comes up the answer is always the same -- Batman wins. He's unbeatable.

#24 Posted by Alphonzo (756 posts) -

Despite what I've seen in The Dark Knight Returns, I don't think so.  This makes me sad cuz Superman's a fuckin cornball.

#25 Posted by ninjakiller (3405 posts) -
@Br3adfan said:
" I believe Batman has beaten Superman. Multiple times. "
@Vito_Raliffe said:
" Batman has already beaten Superman. Superman is a punk-ass bitch. "
#26 Posted by Hunkulese (2842 posts) -

Simple math really
 
Superman has a weakness
+
Batman doesn't
=
Batman wins

#27 Posted by SuperfluousMoniker (2913 posts) -

The problem with Batman vs Superman is that no matter who wins, it's a totally one sided fight. Basically, either Batman's got kryptonite and Superman is reduced to tears within seconds, or Batman doesn't have kryptonite / Superman came prepared with a suit like when he fought Metallo or something and he kicks Batman's ass.

#28 Posted by Red (5994 posts) -
@super2j said:
" well assuming batman doesnt have any kryptonite. i dont think batman could do it without kryptonite right. "
That's like saying that Superman can't inflict pain on Batman.  
 
With Kryptonite and good planning, Batman would beat Superman easy.
#29 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

no, i don't think batman can beat superman. the only weakness superman has is kycriptonight. batman has a weakness as he is human in a costume. superman can fly faster then a speeding bullet, stronger then a train (something like that).  batman would have to fly up into space to get superman's weakness. i would think superman would break batman's ship while he was heading there.

#30 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4606 posts) -

As far as I know, anytime they have gone head to head, Batman wins. Every time. Anyone read 'Red Son'? It's an alternate universe thing where Superman grows up in the USSR instead of the US. It's pretty cool, but Batman in that story is also Russian and is FUCKING AWESOME. 

 WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT FUCKING HAT. 

 
 
 
Yes, that is one of those Russian-style fuzzy hats. But anyways, Russian Batman kicks Russian Supe's ass. So if Superman can't even win in an alternate Universe, he' ll never win. I think they main issue is that Superman will never willingly kill Batman, so arguably Superman's only weakness, besides Kryptonite, is his view of right and wrong. Which implies that Batman has no morals, which is completely wrong. So I guess what it REALLY comes down to is everyone likes batman more, so they'll always have him win.
#31 Posted by Gabriel (4076 posts) -

Realistically no, the only way people can really beat Superman besides Kryptonite is because he is really nice and holds back punches. Batman less so.

#32 Posted by Raven_Sword (3447 posts) -

Pretty sure he already did.
#33 Posted by Bellum (2944 posts) -
@VWGTI said:
" Anytime a Batman vs ???? topic comes up the answer is always the same -- Batman wins. He's unbeatable. "
 
This is the unarguable truth. Even in cases where batman loses.
#34 Posted by Tru3_Blu3 (3239 posts) -

Batman needs a bow with a Kryptonite-tipped arrow. It was be an insta-kill.

#35 Posted by ahriman22 (2746 posts) -

He has, a couple of times too. Batman is just 100% contrated awesome.

#36 Posted by DevinC (15 posts) -

Batman always wins: he beat Superman in Hush, TDKR, and Red Son. Batman always keeps a kryptonite ring on his person just in case.
#37 Posted by TheHT (11686 posts) -
@Br3adfan said:
" I believe Batman has beaten Superman. Multiple times. "
this.
 
no one's got shit on batman. except for toby.
#38 Posted by meismike (45 posts) -

the only problem i have with any of these arguments is the fact that super man has laser eyes! within seconds of the start of the battle superman can fly up and laser batmans face off and if batman has some bs laser resistant cloak or something then superman will throw a fuckin train at him. Dont get me wrong, superman's a total douche, but he is invincible. i think if they had 10 fights superman would probably win 8/10.

#39 Posted by Expletive (1057 posts) -

Can and has.

#40 Posted by clubsandwich (3795 posts) -

Batman beats all.

#41 Posted by Bellum (2944 posts) -
@meismike said:
" the only problem i have with any of these arguments is the fact that super man has laser eyes! within seconds of the start of the battle superman can fly up and laser batmans face off and if batman has some bs laser resistant cloak or something then superman will throw a fuckin train at him. Dont get me wrong, superman's a total douche, but he is invincible. i think if they had 10 fights superman would probably win 8/10. "
 
I don't think you understand how batman works, yo. Superman would be out for the count before he even knew there was a threat.
#42 Posted by angelfan91 (892 posts) -
@HaltIamReptar said:
"If Batman had a week to prepare, then yes.  Absolutely.  Batman always has a plan.  Also, in one story line, it was revealed that Batman has plans to kill everybody in the DC universe, if it came down to it.  No joke.  Superman, the Joker, the Calculator, you name it.  Everybody. "

Because He's THE GODDAMN BATMAN!!!!
#43 Edited by CharlesAlanRatliff (5457 posts) -

I don't think people are reading the thread title properly. It is simply asking if Batman could indeed defeat Superman in a fight. This has already happened on multiple occasions. It is not asking if Batman could defeat Superman without Kryptonite or anything like that.  
 
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Once again: Superman is a punk-ass bitch.
#44 Posted by Synthballs (2193 posts) -
@meismike said:
" the only problem i have with any of these arguments is the fact that super man has laser eyes! within seconds of the start of the battle superman can fly up and laser batmans face off and if batman has some bs laser resistant cloak or something then superman will throw a fuckin train at him. Dont get me wrong, superman's a total douche, but he is invincible. i think if they had 10 fights superman would probably win 8/10. "
Luckily Batman was holding his "laser eyes" repellent spray!
#45 Posted by Jadeskye (4368 posts) -

Let us not forget that Batman is Batman because Batman has a goddamn plan! 
 
He would have build a batcave under Superman's house and been ready for that bitch. 
 
Short answer: Bat-fucking-man.

#46 Posted by Alex_Murphy (1184 posts) -

If batman really wanted to he could probably lure superman into some kind of kryptonite trap. But then Superman could probably dress up like a common thug and keep snatching woman's purses till batman shows up and gets surprised when he tries to punch Superman, but gets his arm ripped off instead. I guess it all comes down to who has the element of surprise. Hell, I could kick the shit out of Brock Lesner if I shot him with a tranquilizer dart and chained him to a wall.

#47 Edited by Coombs (3449 posts) -

Batman could easily beat superman,
Batman is a mother fucking genius, And he's like a damn boy scout, Always Prepared, FOR ANYTHING.
You know damn well he has a set of Kryptonite batarangs sitting in a  drawer, Just in case......
He would destroy him.
 
A better question is:
Could Chuck Norris be beaten by anyone?
 
My vote is yes, Yes he could.
But only by This man.

#48 Posted by MonkeyGekko (278 posts) -

Batman can beat Superman, he almost did in Superman the animated series, season 2 episode 15-17, he pulled some kryptonite on him and got him down his knees, and he also learned Superman's identity. Batman is a pretty sneaky dude.

#49 Edited by Buddy900 (11 posts) -

 
If both were put on somewhere Batman had no tech, plan or ring and Superman did not have the yellow sun which is where he gets his powers from then it comes down to combat skill and Batman would win.

#50 Posted by Chirel (27 posts) -
   @MonkeyGekko said:
"Batman can beat Superman, he almost did in Superman the animated series, season 2 episode 15-17, he pulled some kryptonite on him and got him down his knees, and he also learned Superman's identity. Batman is a pretty sneaky dude. " 

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