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#1 Posted by Mageman (349 posts) -

Just a random question which flew in my head as I was watching some video on youtube. I am not entirely sure what ''calculus'' is there, but do Americans have stuff like limits, integrals and derivatives as mandatory lessons in HS ?

#2 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

I'm not sure about the US, but we do in Canada.

#3 Edited by neoepoch (1295 posts) -

Not all HS kids are required to take it, but there are Calculus courses offered at the high school level in the United States.
 
EDIT: After reading your question at the end, instead of just the topic and the first sentence. No the courses are NOT mandatory, but they are available for students who have an...aptitude toward somewhat higher level mathematics.

#4 Posted by Still_I_Cry (2494 posts) -

Not sure. I am fairly certain we have integrals and limits in High School.

(I haven't done High School level work for around 3-4 years so I don't remember if we had that. I may be confusing it with my college calculus class)

#5 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11381 posts) -

Yeah. It's usually an upper level, optional thing for the smart kids though. I took it.

#6 Posted by Blackout62 (1405 posts) -

Yes, I distinctly remember avoiding a class by the name of Calculus in high school.

#7 Posted by pplus0440 (260 posts) -

yup

#8 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

It was offered, but I didn't take it. I got as far as advanced algebra and trigonometry.

#9 Posted by Commisar123 (1798 posts) -

Yes, I took it, we aren't idiots

#10 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

It depends on the district and the school. My HS requires at least 4 years of math now and almost everyone starts at Algebra so they take it up to Trig while the advanced students take AP Calc. OR that was how it was when I graduated.

#11 Posted by DarthOrange (3892 posts) -

Yeah but its only for NERDS! lol in all seriousness though i took per-calculus in 11th grade and decided not to take any more math in 12th. At my high school they offered calculus, trigonometry and statistics.

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#12 Posted by Codeacious (960 posts) -

Yes. I took BC Calculus my Junior year of high school.

#13 Posted by Example1013 (4807 posts) -

Mandatory for all students? No, that would be cruel.

#14 Posted by Hosstile17 (768 posts) -

At my high school, you were required to take either trigonometry or calculus.

#15 Posted by SSully (4316 posts) -

As many have said it isn't Mandatory. Most high schools require 3 years of math, and HIGHLY push you to take 4.

#16 Edited by SurferZ (92 posts) -

In my NJ public High School, the base math track was Algebra, Geometry, Algebry 2, Pre-Calc. Myself along with other students were in advanced math classes since Elementary School and started ahead at either Geometry or Algebra 2 and reached either 1 or 2 years of Calculus in High School. I'd say

#17 Posted by Nux (2419 posts) -

Yes we do.

#18 Posted by Trilogy (2687 posts) -

Yea, I had it in my senior year.

#19 Posted by Xtrememuffinman (958 posts) -

Not mandatory. In my high school, you needed three years of math, so most people took Algebra I and II, and Geometry. 
I could have taken it my senior year, but wussed out and took Statistics. I immediately regretted that decision it in college.

#20 Posted by penINC (136 posts) -

Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?

#21 Posted by Afroman269 (7387 posts) -

@Dany said:

It depends on the district and the school. My HS requires at least 4 years of math now and almost everyone starts at Algebra so they take it up to Trig while the advanced students take AP Calc. OR that was how it was when I graduated.

#22 Posted by NellyK (78 posts) -

Not mandatory, only for the students with high enough aptitude to benefit from it.

#23 Posted by Maluvin (269 posts) -

@penINC said:

Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?

While calculus is definitely useful it's not necessary in a lot of productive fields and there's plenty of people who took calc in high school and are doing jack shit with it in their lives.

#24 Posted by UncleClassy (405 posts) -

@penINC: Absolutely. You're going to Hell, no questions asked!

#25 Posted by gakon (1952 posts) -

At my high school it was only offered at the AP level. I took AP Statistics instead. It's been two years and I don't remember a thing from it :(

#26 Posted by Dtat (1630 posts) -

Yep. I took it.

#27 Posted by CSXLoser (582 posts) -

My HS offered AB and BC calculus.

Basically, if you didnt jump to algebra by the time you're finishing middle school, you will finish HS with pre-calculus.

#28 Posted by Toxin066 (3326 posts) -

Yup, we do. I took AP Calc in my senior year.

#29 Posted by ajamafalous (12147 posts) -
@Xtrememuffinman said:
Not mandatory. In my high school, you needed three years of math, so most people took Algebra I and II, and Geometry.
Dudewhat? Algebra I was middle school for my school district.
#30 Posted by Rudeboy217 (1771 posts) -

Calculus was offered at my school but I passed. I already had enough of math by my Senior year.

#31 Posted by Saethir (352 posts) -

I took it my senior year, understood pretty much all of it. If you sat me down with a list of problems today however, I might shit my pants then use it as an excuse to not do them.

Its amazing how fast you can forget somewhat complicated math when you don't use it for a while.

#32 Posted by Chop (1998 posts) -

OMG! ALL YOU GUYZ ARE SO smart comp;areddd to me! 
 
Seriously though, I graduated with no calculus and only bare bones algebra under my belt. I took...*gasp* applied math...by DISTANCE EDUCATION!

#33 Posted by Spotshadow (30 posts) -

@penINC said:

Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?

Depends, when given an optional choice instead of calculus I took Chinese. So you tell me which is harder or demands more respect.

#34 Posted by MrBLT (37 posts) -

@Spotshadow said:

@penINC said:

Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?

Depends, when given an optional choice instead of calculus I took Chinese. So you tell me which is harder or demands more respect.

That's comparing Apples to Oranges. I don't care what they say about language uses the same part of the brain as mathematics, I still think that some will find language to be easier than calculus and vice versa. But they both have something in common: they require a lot of practice to become proficient.

But on the topic wise, it was optional. Though if you need to get into University, they normally want you to have it anyways which is why I took it. I haven't really used a lot of my high school math in years though.

#35 Posted by mano521 (1232 posts) -

its not necessary in high school to take calc. in my school there was a slow track of math and a faster track for smarter people. i took calculus by the end of high school, and the slower track at least to pre-calc

so yea basically theres calculus here haha

#36 Posted by CaptainCody (1521 posts) -

@MrBLT said:

@Spotshadow said:

@penINC said:

Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?

Depends, when given an optional choice instead of calculus I took Chinese. So you tell me which is harder or demands more respect.

That's comparing Apples to Oranges. I don't care what they say about language uses the same part of the brain as mathematics, I still think that some will find language to be easier than calculus and vice versa. But they both have something in common: they require a lot of practice to become proficient.

But on the topic wise, it was optional. Though if you need to get into University, they normally want you to have it anyways which is why I took it. I haven't really used a lot of my high school math in years though.

Wait, are you seriously comparing learning Chinese to calculus? Calculus isn't even that hard, what is with you people.

#37 Edited by SirOptimusPrime (2030 posts) -

Not necessarily. We have AP AB (or was it BC?) Calc. here, but there's still a fair chunk of people that took Pre-Calc their senior year (myself-included) and are going into fields that require higher mathematics.  
 
I still think it's unnecessary unless you want to go into a strictly mathematics degree, and even then it isn't really too high a priority if you're good enough to keep up in class with the people that took the stuff a year before you.  I felt like I had a better grasp on basic differential calc. from my academic decathlon stuff (hell yeah) than some of the AP Calc kids. 

#38 Posted by AlexAlterisio (97 posts) -

At my high school no calculus courses were required but they were offered. The first was pre-calculus, which anyone could take if they took a math class all four years that covered the basics of limits, integrals, and derivatives. If you chose to take two math classes one year or Algebra I in middle school, then you could take calculus your senior year without ever having to double up on math classes.

#39 Edited by SoldierG654342 (1819 posts) -

Kind of. My high school offered Pre-Cal to those with good enough math grades and you could choose to take AP Calculus for a college credit. There wasn't a regular Calculus class though.

My high school was terrible though so I don't know if that's the norm.

#40 Posted by ThePickle (4165 posts) -

Yes. My HS has Algebra 1 to Calc and maybe more.

#41 Posted by Vonocourt (2164 posts) -

@SurferZ said:

In my NJ public High School, the base math track was Algebra, Geometry, Algebry 2, Pre-Calc. Myself along with other students were in advanced math classes since Elementary School and started ahead at either Geometry or Algebra 2 and reached either 1 or 2 years of Calculus in High School. I'd say <25% made it to Calculus.

Yeah, this was how my school was.

@penINC said:

Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?

Yep.

#42 Posted by Beforet (2932 posts) -

Not standard, but I think most school at least go up to Precalculus. In my HS you would be put into an Intro class if you had high grades. A summer calc class was also offered to graduates heading into college.

#43 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

yes, they offer it in high school. it's not mandatory to take it. i took algebra my high school years.

#44 Posted by JJOR64 (19065 posts) -

At my high school it wasn't required, but you could take it if you wanted to.

#45 Posted by dungbootle (2428 posts) -

It is not required, only advanced students take it, but "Pre-Calculus" is a standard course that is usually taken senior year.

#46 Posted by Clinkz (1118 posts) -

They offered it where I went but 'twas too stupid for it. I went with pre-cal. Went straight to Calculus my first year at college and got royally raped. Makes me wonder why I'm doing a math intensive major if I'm generally terrible at it. I do like algebra to an extent though...

#47 Posted by Clinkz (1118 posts) -

@penINC said:

Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?

Actually, that does make you a terrible person. I dislike academic elitists.

#48 Edited by fishmicmuffin (1044 posts) -

I took calculus in high school but it wasn't mandatory.  
 
EDIT: I'm in the US. California specifically.

#49 Posted by MrBLT (37 posts) -

@CaptainCody said:

@MrBLT said:

@Spotshadow said:

@penINC said:

Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?

Depends, when given an optional choice instead of calculus I took Chinese. So you tell me which is harder or demands more respect.

That's comparing Apples to Oranges. I don't care what they say about language uses the same part of the brain as mathematics, I still think that some will find language to be easier than calculus and vice versa. But they both have something in common: they require a lot of practice to become proficient.

But on the topic wise, it was optional. Though if you need to get into University, they normally want you to have it anyways which is why I took it. I haven't really used a lot of my high school math in years though.

Wait, are you seriously comparing learning Chinese to calculus? Calculus isn't even that hard, what is with you people.

And it's not. There's much harder maths out than Calculus.

#50 Posted by MiniPato (2751 posts) -

@penINC said:

Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?

Nah, that just makes you a NERD! NEERRRRRRDDDD!

My school offered pre-calculus and calculus. The former is mandatory and the latter is optional. I'm good at math up until calculus. Fuck that shit.