Honestly, this whole thing with the head of the CIA has me rolling my eyes. Call me a cynic if you want but I'm of the opinion that ALL people in any sort of power are serial cheaters. What evidence do we have to contradict that? I wish the US had a more realistic viewpoint on this, like in the UK for instance, and stop making it look like some sort of shocking thing that no other person in power would do. Don't these guys, or gals, get married only to make themselves look good?
I assume this is about the petreus (i probably misspelled his name but w/e) thing? If so I thought that thing was really fucking dumb. Who cares if he had an affair? I mean come on.
No. Well unless of course he was sleeping with my soon-to-be wife of course. Then I would have to kill him. Then I would be on my way to prison and BAM, zombie outbreak.
No, I don't care. The only people who care have a political agenda to act out, which involves smearing and ejecting anyone in their way, by any means necessary.
No. Well unless of course he was sleeping with my soon-to-be wife of course. Then I would have to kill him. Then I would be on my way to prison and BAM, zombie outbreak.
No, it's always kinda dumb when careers are ended over that sorta stuff.
The only exception I make is of course, the current case with the director of the CIA. If you can't keep your affair a secret, how can you be trusted to keep the rest of our country's secrets?
For the most part no, but it worries me a little when it's somebody who's a member of the intelligence community. That's the sort of thing that unfriendly people could use to get leverage over you and make you do bad things to keep it quiet.
No. Well unless of course he was sleeping with my soon-to-be wife of course. Then I would have to kill him. Then I would be on my way to prison and BAM, zombie outbreak.
No, it's always kinda dumb when careers are ended over that sorta stuff.
The only exception I make is of course, the current case with the director of the CIA. If you can't keep your affair a secret, how can you be trusted to keep the rest of our country's secrets?
Fun fact: Paula Broadwell, Patraeus' biographer and sexfriend, went to my high school and her father taught my brother as a Psychology teacher so now my Facebook news page is filled with friends of friends of Paula Broadwell defending her nonstop. So yeah, since this affair is directly inconveniencing me on Facebook, fuck both of those idiots. Normally I'd say private lives should stay private.
No, not really. I've never given a fuck if they can do their jobs. I mean, look at Bill Clinton - he knew that you were supposed to screw interns, not the economy.
Most of the time, no. But when a politician who runs on "family values" (which is the dumbest political stance in the first place) starts having affairs, then his entire candidacy is suspect.
There's also the issues of government security and compromised information, but it all depends on the circumstances.
Depends on if they display themselves as the pinnacle of morality or if they readily admit being lecherous. Note I'd prefer it if there was a strong sense of morality in all aspects of life but there just isn't anymore so it's something you have to deal with. It'd be interesting to have a Bachelor president a la Buchanan though, maybe he'd be like Derek Jeter or something. Jeter 2016. 7 billion undeserved Gold Gloves! 3000 hits! He's a Yankee! 15000 women!
I think it makes them a piece of shit as a human, but I didn't elect them for their sexual abilities or ability to keep their legs closed. As long as they are doing their job well it doesn't, and shouldn't, matter what they do in their personal lives.
I care because if they are married they are lying to spouses which is dishonest. They took vows when they married those people. They take vows to our country as well. If they break the vows of matrimony to the person they love(d) the most at the time they took them, what is to stop them from breaking vows to their country as well or lie like they did to their spouses. Public officials are civil servants. They are supposed to serve at the pleasure of the people. They are to be above reproach. If you cheat on a husband or wife, it says that you are serving yourself, otherwise you would be honest and divorce that spouse instead of wanting to sleep with them and a mistress and lie about it.
I'm of the opinion that when a politician or a celebrity enters public life, that they have chosen for their lives to be public. Personally their private lives don't effect me, so I rarely pay attention to them, but when I think of a politician I would hope that someone that is elected to office have some integrity and honesty. If they are single and sleeping with people I wouldn't care. If they were married and having an affair I think it shows something of that persons character. If they are willing to cheat on the person that's supposed to mean the most to them, their family, then why would they think twice about cheating over the people that elected them to office.
I care, mostly because marriage is a commitment. I give zero fucks if someone isn't married and sleeps around. If they can't keep a lifelong commitment (which is entirely possible to end legally) I can't trust them to keep any campaign promises. I'd much rather someone get a divorce than have an affair.
Marriage in this country is a joke anyhow. So I'm not bothered by it. In fact I expect it and almost encourage people at that level to sleep around. Do you guys have any idea how stressful those jobs are? And sex is an awesome stress reliever.
For a while I thought the whole marriage scandals that happen time and time again in this country are just some cover up for something really bad that they did. Like this dude just murdered an orphanage but the American public wouldn't be able to handle it, so they just repackage his mistake into an affair. It's more palatable that way.
I think people are making good points. If they aren't committed to their oaths in marriage, what other oaths are they not committed to? Which I guess makes sense that Clinton got impeached since he lied about it under oath. Breaking oaths as the President isn't something that should probably occur. The same should probably go for the director of the CIA.
My first reaction is no, but at the same time if they're married I can't help but think that the lying that is central to a situation like that says something about their ability, skill and willingness to lie in order to get what they want.
I mean, if they would do that to their wife/husband why would you think they care about what they do to someone they don't even know like you?
If they can't be honest and faithful to their spouses then how can we trust them to be honest and faithful to the electorate and people of the country they serve?
That said politicians are no different to regular people, they're open to the same temptations as the rest of us so in that respect I voted No in the poll. But if you're political leader is someone on par with the likes of Silvio Berlusconi of Italy you have to raise an eyebrow and ask yourself if he's using his position to help the people he serves or just to keep his bed warm.
It is a direct reflection of their character; if they are willing to cheat on their wife (who they swore to honor), there is no reason to believe that they will stand by their political word.
I can't stand infidelity. A coward cheats and lies. A coward doesn't deserve forgiveness, they deserve contempt. I'm aware my views on this are a little old school but it's one of the few things in life that really makes me mad. Socks with sandals is another.
The reason it's a big deal is because our leaders didn't get there through ideas or accomplishments, they got there by being pretty happy perfect people, that look and sound good. When it's exposed they aren't really spawns of Leave It Beaver, it destroys the foundation of their power.
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