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#1 Posted by mikey87144 (2089 posts) -


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#2 Posted by Jams (3043 posts) -

I don't think it has anything to do with anything related to the government and private lives should stay private.

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#3 Posted by mikey87144 (2089 posts) -

Honestly, this whole thing with the head of the CIA has me rolling my eyes. Call me a cynic if you want but I'm of the opinion that ALL people in any sort of power are serial cheaters. What evidence do we have to contradict that? I wish the US had a more realistic viewpoint on this, like in the UK for instance, and stop making it look like some sort of shocking thing that no other person in power would do. Don't these guys, or gals, get married only to make themselves look good?

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#4 Posted by Animasta (14848 posts) -

I assume this is about the petreus (i probably misspelled his name but w/e) thing? If so I thought that thing was really fucking dumb. Who cares if he had an affair? I mean come on.

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#5 Posted by ZeForgotten (10368 posts) -

No. 
Well unless of course he was sleeping with my soon-to-be wife of course. Then I would have to kill him.  
Then I would be on my way to prison and BAM, zombie outbreak. 

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#6 Posted by psylah (2286 posts) -

No, I don't care. The only people who care have a political agenda to act out, which involves smearing and ejecting anyone in their way, by any means necessary.

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#7 Posted by Intro (1259 posts) -

No. I think it's a terrible thing and makes you an unforgivable, complete piece of shit, but it's their lives.

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#8 Posted by Kiri90 (292 posts) -
@ZeForgotten
No. 
Well unless of course he was sleeping with my soon-to-be wife of course. Then I would have to kill him.  
Then I would be on my way to prison and BAM, zombie outbreak. 
Nicely done, sir, nicely done!
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#9 Posted by MikkaQ (10296 posts) -

No, it's always kinda dumb when careers are ended over that sorta stuff.

The only exception I make is of course, the current case with the director of the CIA. If you can't keep your affair a secret, how can you be trusted to keep the rest of our country's secrets?

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#10 Posted by Silvergun (298 posts) -

For the most part no, but it worries me a little when it's somebody who's a member of the intelligence community. That's the sort of thing that unfriendly people could use to get leverage over you and make you do bad things to keep it quiet.

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#11 Posted by ZeForgotten (10368 posts) -
@Kiri90 said:
@ZeForgotten
No. 
Well unless of course he was sleeping with my soon-to-be wife of course. Then I would have to kill him.  
Then I would be on my way to prison and BAM, zombie outbreak. 
Nicely done, sir, nicely done!
Thank you, sir! 
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#12 Posted by Everyones_A_Critic (6500 posts) -

I don't give a fuck if the president shoots Heroin as long as he does his fucking job.

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#13 Posted by Kidavenger (4080 posts) -

It shows poor judgement and a lack of concern for other people, what the fuck else are we really looking for from government.

It's easy to say everyone does it so it's ok for them, but it really isn't, especially from people in politics/government.

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#14 Posted by mikey87144 (2089 posts) -

@MikkaQ said:

No, it's always kinda dumb when careers are ended over that sorta stuff.

The only exception I make is of course, the current case with the director of the CIA. If you can't keep your affair a secret, how can you be trusted to keep the rest of our country's secrets?

I was actually about to make that point.

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#15 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7097 posts) -

Fun fact: Paula Broadwell, Patraeus' biographer and sexfriend, went to my high school and her father taught my brother as a Psychology teacher so now my Facebook news page is filled with friends of friends of Paula Broadwell defending her nonstop. So yeah, since this affair is directly inconveniencing me on Facebook, fuck both of those idiots. Normally I'd say private lives should stay private.

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#16 Posted by Justin258 (13952 posts) -

No, not really. I've never given a fuck if they can do their jobs. I mean, look at Bill Clinton - he knew that you were supposed to screw interns, not the economy.

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#17 Posted by Istealdreams (164 posts) -

I didn't care until it was revealed that she had a shit ton of classified information and documents that she removed from government buildings.

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#18 Edited by Draxyle (2009 posts) -

Most of the time, no. But when a politician who runs on "family values" (which is the dumbest political stance in the first place) starts having affairs, then his entire candidacy is suspect.

There's also the issues of government security and compromised information, but it all depends on the circumstances.

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#19 Posted by Clonedzero (4206 posts) -

no, what they do in their private lives should stay private.

i only care if it starts effecting the way they run things.

well ok, i might get upset if their into like horse porn and stuff. cus thats fucked up, but anything with consenting adults, whatever have fun.

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#20 Posted by Fredchuckdave (9757 posts) -

Depends on if they display themselves as the pinnacle of morality or if they readily admit being lecherous. Note I'd prefer it if there was a strong sense of morality in all aspects of life but there just isn't anymore so it's something you have to deal with. It'd be interesting to have a Bachelor president a la Buchanan though, maybe he'd be like Derek Jeter or something. Jeter 2016. 7 billion undeserved Gold Gloves! 3000 hits! He's a Yankee! 15000 women!

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#21 Posted by scalpel (326 posts) -

No, but I care if they lie under oath.

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#22 Posted by Animasta (14848 posts) -

@Istealdreams said:

I didn't care until it was revealed that she had a shit ton of classified information and documents that she removed from government buildings.

really? dang

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#23 Posted by crusader8463 (14759 posts) -

I think it makes them a piece of shit as a human, but I didn't elect them for their sexual abilities or ability to keep their legs closed. As long as they are doing their job well it doesn't, and shouldn't, matter what they do in their personal lives.

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#24 Posted by ShadowConqueror (3413 posts) -

No, that is no reflection of their leadership capabilities.

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#25 Posted by Jayzilla (2689 posts) -

I care because if they are married they are lying to spouses which is dishonest. They took vows when they married those people. They take vows to our country as well. If they break the vows of matrimony to the person they love(d) the most at the time they took them, what is to stop them from breaking vows to their country as well or lie like they did to their spouses. Public officials are civil servants. They are supposed to serve at the pleasure of the people. They are to be above reproach. If you cheat on a husband or wife, it says that you are serving yourself, otherwise you would be honest and divorce that spouse instead of wanting to sleep with them and a mistress and lie about it.

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#26 Edited by SuperCycle (351 posts) -

I'm of the opinion that when a politician or a celebrity enters public life, that they have chosen for their lives to be public. Personally their private lives don't effect me, so I rarely pay attention to them, but when I think of a politician I would hope that someone that is elected to office have some integrity and honesty. If they are single and sleeping with people I wouldn't care. If they were married and having an affair I think it shows something of that persons character. If they are willing to cheat on the person that's supposed to mean the most to them, their family, then why would they think twice about cheating over the people that elected them to office.

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#27 Posted by JasonR86 (10144 posts) -

No. I care if they suck, no pun intended, at their job.

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#28 Posted by Synaptic (313 posts) -

I care, mostly because marriage is a commitment. I give zero fucks if someone isn't married and sleeps around. If they can't keep a lifelong commitment (which is entirely possible to end legally) I can't trust them to keep any campaign promises. I'd much rather someone get a divorce than have an affair.

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#29 Posted by Marcsman (3504 posts) -

Nope

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#30 Posted by Butler (430 posts) -

Marriage in this country is a joke anyhow. So I'm not bothered by it. In fact I expect it and almost encourage people at that level to sleep around. Do you guys have any idea how stressful those jobs are? And sex is an awesome stress reliever.

For a while I thought the whole marriage scandals that happen time and time again in this country are just some cover up for something really bad that they did. Like this dude just murdered an orphanage but the American public wouldn't be able to handle it, so they just repackage his mistake into an affair. It's more palatable that way.

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#31 Posted by Breadfan (6803 posts) -

If it doesn't impact their job, why the fuck should I care?

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#32 Posted by Jams (3043 posts) -

I think people are making good points. If they aren't committed to their oaths in marriage, what other oaths are they not committed to? Which I guess makes sense that Clinton got impeached since he lied about it under oath. Breaking oaths as the President isn't something that should probably occur. The same should probably go for the director of the CIA.

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#33 Posted by Video_Game_King (36565 posts) -

No. I am my political leader.

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#34 Posted by Trainer_Red (318 posts) -

You're the head of the CIA dude... How do you not keep an affair secret? Seriously.

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#35 Posted by JasonR86 (10144 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

No. I am my political leader.

So are you ok with you sleeping around?

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#36 Posted by ProfessorEss (7918 posts) -

I dunno.

My first reaction is no, but at the same time if they're married I can't help but think that the lying that is central to a situation like that says something about their ability, skill and willingness to lie in order to get what they want.

I mean, if they would do that to their wife/husband why would you think they care about what they do to someone they don't even know like you?

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#37 Posted by Video_Game_King (36565 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

@Video_Game_King said:

No. I am my political leader.

So are you ok with you sleeping around?

I guess. Nobody really gives a shit if a leader sleeps around up here. It's kind of like a hobby, really.

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#38 Posted by AlexanderSheen (5150 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: Do Lunarians even sleep?

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#39 Posted by Video_Game_King (36565 posts) -

@AlexanderSheen said:

@Video_Game_King: Do Lunarians even sleep?

4-5 days out of the month. When, exactly, depends on where you live. For me, it's usually near the end of the month.

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#40 Posted by A_Talking_Donkey (264 posts) -

Nope, they have to sleep somewhere.

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#41 Posted by Manhattan_Project (2247 posts) -

People who cheat are assholes. I don't make it habit to trust assholes, so yes, I do care.

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#42 Posted by AlexanderSheen (5150 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: Thank you. I always learn something new here.

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#43 Posted by Hamz (6899 posts) -

If they can't be honest and faithful to their spouses then how can we trust them to be honest and faithful to the electorate and people of the country they serve?

That said politicians are no different to regular people, they're open to the same temptations as the rest of us so in that respect I voted No in the poll. But if you're political leader is someone on par with the likes of Silvio Berlusconi of Italy you have to raise an eyebrow and ask yourself if he's using his position to help the people he serves or just to keep his bed warm.

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#44 Edited by madmurdock0311 (16 posts) -

It is a direct reflection of their character; if they are willing to cheat on their wife (who they swore to honor), there is no reason to believe that they will stand by their political word.

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#45 Posted by falling_fast (2905 posts) -

can't see stephen harper sleeping around haha

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#46 Posted by Bwast (1376 posts) -

I can't stand infidelity. A coward cheats and lies. A coward doesn't deserve forgiveness, they deserve contempt. I'm aware my views on this are a little old school but it's one of the few things in life that really makes me mad. Socks with sandals is another.

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#47 Posted by vhold (540 posts) -

The reason it's a big deal is because our leaders didn't get there through ideas or accomplishments, they got there by being pretty happy perfect people, that look and sound good.  When it's exposed they aren't really spawns of Leave It Beaver, it destroys the foundation of their power.

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#48 Posted by Video_Game_King (36565 posts) -

@Hamz:

What if they're single?

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#49 Posted by Tarsier (1491 posts) -

do you care if your political leaders are evil criminals

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#50 Posted by iam3green (14368 posts) -

no, it's none of my business what politics are doing. as long as they do good work.