in 2010. The reasoning for 1-0 is that the calendar didn't begin at year 0, but year 1. The reasoning for 0-9 is that people feel a sense of change and importance when the numbers "roll up" to 0 again. So, in short, the ignorance of massive amounts of people has managed to overcome solid fact. This worries me.
" in 2010. The reasoning for 1-0 is that the calendar didn't begin at year 0, but year 1. The reasoning for 0-9 is that people feel a sense of change and importance when the numbers "roll up" to 0 again. So, in short, the ignorance of massive amounts of people has managed to overcome solid fact. This worries me. "
Don't get swept up because the CE/AD numbering system started at 1. 0 CE is the same as 1 BCE. It's not like the world popped up in 1 CE. And don't throw around words like "ignorance". You're begging for flame wars to happen.
" in 2010. The reasoning for 1-0 is that the calendar didn't begin at year 0, but year 1. The reasoning for 0-9 is that people feel a sense of change and importance when the numbers "roll up" to 0 again. So, in short, the ignorance of massive amounts of people has managed to overcome solid fact. This worries me. "
This decade began at the very start of 2000 it finishes at the very end of 2009. That is a period of 10 years time wise. 10 years = decade Decade ends 2009.
All these posts are proving my point further. Fact states that the decade changes after 2010, but culture states that it ends in 2009. Obviously, culture is correct. Who needs fact, anyways? It's never really helped us achieve anything.
" All these posts are proving my point further. Fact states that the decade changes after 2010, but culture states that it ends in 2009. Obviously, culture is correct. Who needs fact, anyways? It's never really helped us achieve anything. "
How? How do the facts state 2010? As I've said before, 2000 is not part of the 90s, Hamst3r demonstrates my point further, so why should it be different now? Occam's razor just makes you an ironic fool :P.
everyone who is saying the decade ends at the end of 2010 is clearly ignorant to the fact that a decade is 10 years, meaning that for the decade to end in 2010 it would need to be an 11 year decade. what the fuck is wrong with you people? 10 years from the begining of 2000 is the start of 2010. therefore being a decade. there is no question about it. so stop this shit and just accept that 2010 is the begining of a decade...
" All these posts are proving my point further. Fact states that the decade changes after 2010, but culture states that it ends in 2009. Obviously, culture is correct. Who needs fact, anyways? It's never really helped us achieve anything. "
How? How do the facts state 2010? As I've said before, 2000 is not part of the 90s, Hamst3r demonstrates my point further, so why should it be different now? Occam's razor just makes you an ironic fool :P. "
Wikipedia on millenniums:
Those holding that the arrival of new millennium should be celebrated in the transition from 2000 to 2001 (i.e. December 31, 2000), argued that since the Gregorian Calendar has no year zero, the millennia should be counted from A.D. 1. Thus the first period of one thousand complete years runs from the beginning of A.D. 1 to the end of A.D. 1000, and the beginning of the second millennium took place at the beginning of 1001 .
Let's think here. The view that it ends in 2010 is based on the fact that there was never a year 0 AD. So the first millennium was 1-1001, the next 1001-2001 and so forth. Obviously, the first AD decade began at year 1, and decade literally means ten years, meaning that the second decade began at 11 AD, then 21, 31, and all the way up to 2011, not 2010.
People felt that the change of hundred digit in the year number, and the zeros rolling over, created a sense that a new century had begun. This is similar to the common demarcation of decades by their most significant digits, e.g. naming the period 1980 to 1989 as the 1980s or "the eighties."
Now, this side of the argument is based on the special feeling you get when you see the numbers "roll over". This feeling caused massive amounts of people to believe that -0 was the beginning of a new decade. This concept spread through our culture until it was taken as fact. Never underestimate the capabilities of large groups of stupid and/or misinformed people.
Isn't a decade 10 years and the 1/10 of the 21st century started with 2000? If it was 2010, it would be 11 years which defeats the decade and a shitstorm would occur.
That point would be valid IF the AD calendar started at 0, but it started at 1. There was no 0 in between 1 BC and 1 AD. So the new millennium was at 2001, and a decade past that would be 2011.
But still, counting history in terms of decades didn't really start until the 1900s, so you can't exactly count year 1 AD in your argument. Before 1900, it was the Gilded Age/Victorian Era, not 80s/70s/60s/etc.s. After that, it was the Progressive Era, followed WW1, followed by the Roaring 20s, then Depression, then WW2, then the decades as we know them. They have been defined like this for years, so why stop now? I've changed it from culture vs. calendar to calendar vs. history. Your move.
" @joshy9411:@kadash299:@ThePhantomnaut: That point would be valid IF the AD calendar started at 0, but it started at 1. There was no 0 in between 1 BC and 1 AD. So the new millennium was at 2001, and a decade past that would be 2011. "
I don't follow Gregorian calander. It does say it started on 2001, but I don't really stick with it.
@Video_Game_King: My move? Do you think this is some kind of ego battle? Anyways, I honestly never thought of the decade counting starting in the 1900s, and that's a solid point.
I showed my theory, you showed yours, I'm sticking to mine, you can stick to yours. I've got nothing else to say here, I guess.
The aughts end when 0 becomes a 1, ergo 2009 is the final year.
Sure, there is no year 0, but that doesn't change the fact that we commonly dictate decades as periods of time from XXX0-XXX9. The years 1-9 AD can take the hit and be a leap decade, don't pin this on the aughts.
Era 1. A fixed point of time, usually an epoch, from which a series of years is reckoned.
Decade 1. A period of ten years.
"Because nothing is "zeroth" in the numerical order, there is no "year zero" in either the Gregorian calendar or the Julian calendar). The first decade of the Common era runs from the beginning of the year 1 AD through the end of the year 10 AD, while the decade before it starts at the beginning of the year 10 BC and ends at the end of the year 1 BC."
I hear people now saying the 70's was the disco decade. And the 60's was the hippie decade. It's an era people!
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