I trust the military not to fuck it up. After what they have seen over the past 18 days, I don't think they would want to do anything stupid. (considering most of the army is made of pro-democracy citizens). Only good from here.
Great, I guess. I think it's still too early to celebrate though, because all of Egypt's problems aren't going to be magically solved just by getting rid of him. Probably. I don't know.
@TheDudeOfGaming: uh, because there's a certain magnitude to what they did? This is an interconnected world so we should consider potentially massive shifts in government important?
Yay, now they can elect another egocentric bastard to take Hi's place that will work to acomplish Hi's own goals and luxuries instead of the welfare of the people, isn't Democracy great?
I'd be a bit cautious with the celebration right now. It's always good for a country's population to find their voice. I just hope they don't get the wool pulled over their eyes, and that they set up a government that is neither extremist nor just another dictatorship.
" Wait, thousands of years? Why do I feel like that's a bit of an exaggeration? "
That's not the exaggeration, it's that they think Egypt is truly free now. There will probably be another coup in good time. The middle east is a chaotic mess as of late.
But yeah Egypt hasn't really been it's own thing since it was an empire thousands of years ago. Between the Romans, the Muslims, the Ottomans, Muhammad Ali Pasha, and Mubarak (and all the people in between), Egypt has never really belonged to it's people.
" Wait, thousands of years? Why do I feel like that's a bit of an exaggeration? "
That's not the exaggeration, it's that they think Egypt is truly free now. There will probably be another coup in good time. The middle east is a chaotic mess as of late. But yeah Egypt hasn't really been it's own thing since it was an empire thousands of years ago. Between the Romans, the Muslims, the Ottomans, Muhammad Ali Pasha, and Mubarak (and all the people in between), Egypt has never really belonged to it's people. "
That sentence is funny in a weird way. Like "I'm a Wizard..."
Mubarak may have stepped down, but he handed the power to his deputy in chief. So until the )hopefully free and fair) democratic election rolls around in September, the country of Egypt is under military rule.
@DonutFever: That might have been written wrong. That sounds like I'm inviting those coups.
But really I'm just touching on the inevitability of corruption in the middle east. It just happens. I mean sure they overthrew the government, but now the military runs the country, that's where Mubarak and his cronies came from in the first place. I'm just... skeptical. We'll see come september when the elections are due though. I sincerely hope for the Egyptians that they get a good government for once.
You guys dont know your history do you? Exactly the same thing happened with the Islamic revolution of 1979 and look what happened. The absolute worst thing for the egyptians and the world would be the Muslim Brotherhood getting into power.
Good for the Egyptians, but i dont see things getting better
" It was cool seeing the Christians form a human shield around the Muslims while they prayed. "
It was an even nicer gesture when you realize they were returning a favor, the Muslims helped them the same way before. It's good to see that people are actually getting along, and helping each other, even if it's under the unfortunate circumstances of violence.
" You guys dont know your history do you? Exactly the same thing happened with the Islamic revolution of 1979 and look what happened. The absolute worst thing for the egyptians and the world would be the Muslim Brotherhood getting into power. Good for the Egyptians, but i dont see things getting better "
Why do people keep bringing religion into this? This isn't an Islamic revolution, its a revolution for democracy. The brotherhood themselves said they don't want to rule and are just happy to be recognized as a political party. Not to mention the fact that the brotherhood aren't at all extremist as many news channels make them out to be.
" It was cool seeing the Christians form a human shield around the Muslims while they prayed. "
It was an even nicer gesture when you realize they were returning a favor, the Muslims helped them the same way before. It's good to see that people are actually getting along, and helping each other, even if it's under the unfortunate circumstances of violence. "
" It was cool seeing the Christians form a human shield around the Muslims while they prayed. "
It was an even nicer gesture when you realize they were returning a favor, the Muslims helped them the same way before. It's good to see that people are actually getting along, and helping each other, even if it's under the unfortunate circumstances of violence. "
Aye. "
Agreed. Its crazy to think that only a month ago a church was burned.
" You guys dont know your history do you? Exactly the same thing happened with the Islamic revolution of 1979 and look what happened. The absolute worst thing for the egyptians and the world would be the Muslim Brotherhood getting into power. Good for the Egyptians, but i dont see things getting better "
Why do people keep bringing religion into this? This isn't an Islamic revolution, its a revolution for democracy. The brotherhood themselves said they don't want to rule and are just happy to be recognized as a political party. Not to mention the fact that the brotherhood aren't at all extremist as many news channels make them out to be. "
haha you clearly proved you do not know your history. The Islamic Revolution is a completely analogous event in which a despot was thrown out in such haste, that no one noticed they'd ushered in someone much, much worse. And as for the brotherhood not being extremist is laughable. Look at one of their offshoots did in the Gaze. Got themselves elected, the preceded to murder the opposition and then refused to hold any other elections, they''re a one vote, once, party.
It'll be interesting to see who fills the power hole. Right now Egypt is the number two recipient of US aid. If the Muslim Brotherhood takes over, I would assess the aid to become quite a bit less.
" You guys dont know your history do you? Exactly the same thing happened with the Islamic revolution of 1979 and look what happened. The absolute worst thing for the egyptians and the world would be the Muslim Brotherhood getting into power. Good for the Egyptians, but i dont see things getting better "
Why do people keep bringing religion into this? This isn't an Islamic revolution, its a revolution for democracy. The brotherhood themselves said they don't want to rule and are just happy to be recognized as a political party. Not to mention the fact that the brotherhood aren't at all extremist as many news channels make them out to be. "
haha you clearly proved you do not know your history. The Islamic Revolution is a completely analogous event in which a despot was thrown out in such haste, that no one noticed they'd ushered in someone much, much worse. And as for the brotherhood not being extremist is laughable. Look at one of their offshoots did in the Gaze. Got themselves elected, the preceded to murder the opposition and then refused to hold any other elections, they''re a one vote, once, party. "
The people of Iran wanted an Islamic Republic, which is not at all what Egyptians want. I haven't forgotten your views on issues like these hicks, so I won't argue you. The brotherhood aren't extremists. They've been opposed by extremist groups like Al Qaeda for wanting democracy.
" You guys dont know your history do you? Exactly the same thing happened with the Islamic revolution of 1979 and look what happened. The absolute worst thing for the egyptians and the world would be the Muslim Brotherhood getting into power. Good for the Egyptians, but i dont see things getting better "
Why do people keep bringing religion into this? This isn't an Islamic revolution, its a revolution for democracy. The brotherhood themselves said they don't want to rule and are just happy to be recognized as a political party. Not to mention the fact that the brotherhood aren't at all extremist as many news channels make them out to be. "
haha you clearly proved you do not know your history. The Islamic Revolution is a completely analogous event in which a despot was thrown out in such haste, that no one noticed they'd ushered in someone much, much worse. And as for the brotherhood not being extremist is laughable. Look at one of their offshoots did in the Gaze. Got themselves elected, the preceded to murder the opposition and then refused to hold any other elections, they''re a one vote, once, party. "
The people of Iran wanted an Islamic Republic, which is not at all what Egyptians want. I haven't forgotten your views on issues like these hicks, so I won't argue you. The brotherhood aren't extremists. They've been opposed by extremist groups like Al Qaeda for wanting democracy. "
i said it was analogous, which it is. western backed leader overthrown by popular uprising, i didnt say it was the same. the brotherhoods leader says the want to block the suez, and immediately wage war on Israel, if thats not extreme i dont know what else is..........
if these democratic movements keep spreading, won't it be funny when the only middle eastern countries that aren't democracies are iraq and afghanistan?
Yeah, I just found out he handed the power over to the military. Nothing wrong with that right now. It's going to be interesting to see where this goes.
" Next order of business. Getting rid of the military who are apparantly backing Mubarak 100%. "
Not really. Basically all officers took off their uniforms and joined the demonstration last night, after Mubarak said he was staying. So they haven't really been supporting him in the last 18 days. Actually, they've been pretty supportive of the demonstrants. That being said, Mubarak had a prestigious military career backing him when he he was instated, so who's to say the same thing won't happen again?
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